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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 11:53 AM
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Washington Independent: ‘Birther’ Movement Dogs Republicans
This is a good article by Dave Weigel, worth reading the whole thing:

Kris Kobach is a law professor with degrees from Harvard, Yale and Oxford, and a veteran of George W. Bush’s administration who, after Sept. 11, helped craft the policy on domestic registration of foreign visitors to the United States. In May, he announced a run for Kansas secretary of state, campaigning for photo ID requirements at the voting booth. He’s considered a clear front-runner for the job. But over the weekend, Kobach spoke at a Republican Party barbecue and committed a minor gaffe. According to the Lawrence Journal-World, Kobach “asked what President Obama and God had in common, with the punchline being neither has a birth certificate.”

Kansas Democrats pounced. “While Kris Kobach has in the past associated himself with extremists who frequently show poor taste,” said state Democratic Party Executive Director Kenny Johnston, “his latest attempt at humor has gone too far.” Kobach told the Democrats to “lighten up” before walking back the comment, explaining that “until a court says otherwise, I believe Barack Obama is a natural-born citizen.”

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Six months into Obama’s presidency, after scores of embarrassing legal defeats, and even after tussles between the attoneys who’ve turned frivolous lawsuits about the president’s citizenship into full-time jobs, the cottage industry of conspiracy theories about the president’s birth shows no signs of disappearing. The theories have found a home in talk radio and on conservative web sites such as Free Republic and WorldNetDaily. Conspiracy theorists are increasingly sending letters to their local papers, embarrassing members of Congress at town hall meetings, and hounding Hill staffers about challenges to the president’s citizenship.

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http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam


I'm pulling this part out of the piece to highlight it:

“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”


This is one of the major Birfer points, that Obama could have been born in Kenya and he or his family gotten a birth certificate for a foreign birth that still says he was born in Hawaii. This is a solid statement for rebuttal. If anybody needs to find it again, it's in the Debunking Forum.

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:16 PM
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1. Thanks for posting this.
K, R & B.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:33 PM
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2. So...
Where IS the debunking forum anyway?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:37 PM
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6. In my sig, Pat
It's quiet as to threads, but it gets DUers doing research.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 12:46 PM
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3. Will Sarah join the crazy "Birthers"?
She Twittered this today:

elected is replaceable;Ak WILL progress! + side benefit=10 dys til less politically correct twitters fly frm my fingertps outside State site

:D
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:11 PM
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4. This, to me, sounds like she's joining the likes of limbaugh and beck.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:23 PM
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5. I hope so...I read
the other day that she left Alaska in such a mess that she can't quit Alaska on the 27th as promised.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:39 PM
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7. Birfers have been writing to her
I saw it on a couple of sites. They are convinced she will join up with them and Orly.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:04 PM
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10. That'll really help her propects.
:D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 01:46 PM
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8. Yeah, I didn't use to pay attention to
this weird birfer crap at all..but, this woman who volunteers at our co-op and is quite intelligent and creative, otherwise, is spouting that fantasy.

So I started paying attention..I told her one day that.. "Obama was born on Oahu in 1961 and Hawai'i became a state in 1959(August 21th)..trust me":)..she also was whining about College papers that no one has seen:scared:

http://hawaii.gov/gov/news/files/2009/march/commemorating-50-years-of-statehood

I think it depends on what information you listen to..who knows what talk radio personality she thinks knows everything?

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:03 PM
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9. I didn't pay close enough attention
Until June 1, when they managed to take over and completely destroy the Open Government Dialogue website, royally pissing me off and forever! Our President's enemy is my enemy and I'm not giving these motherfuckers a minute's peace.

It's war, baby.:nuke:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:58 PM
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11. I've noticed you're
into it..and, they don't know who they're messing with.:bounce::nuke:
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