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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:43 PM Original message |
So just how much does one F-22 cost per plane? |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. See Barney Franks comments in #2 here (monopoly money; Pentagon lowballing; weaponized Keynesianism) |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. It's interesting how some politicians are supposedly opposed to Keynesianism |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. More importantly, it creates massive corporate profits.n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Glad Obama's let everyone know it will be vetoed if they try to fund that crap. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. But...it's so cool looking..... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'd rather take the few more F-22s in exchange for killing the Joint Strike Fighter. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. You're talking about the F-35 right? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Yeah, but the F-22s are improved over the previous generation. The F-35 isn't really. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. We just don't have a need for air-to-air focused combat fighters. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Not today |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. The JSF's replacing nearly everything |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I favor retrofitting existing designs. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. An updated Sopwith Camel would be cheap. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. You underestimate how big a "just" that is |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Even from scratch you save money. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. A rifle might as well be a spoon, complexity-wise, compared to a modern jet fighter |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Other reports (and other web sites) put the cost at over $200 M |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. To |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. The current situation doesn't require maintaining air superiority over top of the line aircraft |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. and those would be which aircraft? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Take your pick |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Thank you. Interesting and informative link. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. Funny how Republicans are against wasteful spending unless its |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. They always speak of "smaller gov't", I try to get them to admit |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. When they come down to about $20,000 each I'll buy one. n/t |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. That is one spectacular fighter jet |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Yes, they do look good at Air Shows, don't they? |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's an awesome plane but the DoD and the WH both think we have enough of them |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
13. The cost per aircraft depends on how many are built |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. And how many per year |
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President Decider (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
14. Doesn't matter how much they cost, we won't be building anymore of them ... |
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liam_laddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
17. Cost... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. Or one well-equiped medium-sized public school. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. umm - HEALTHCARE FOR ALL FOR A YEAR or more... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. The rough guess would cover end stage renal failure and cardiovascular interventions |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
24. umm - HEALTHCARE FOR ALL FOR A YEAR or more... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
32. It's a shame F-22s aren't practically useful in this era, because they are the coolest jets ever. |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
34. Yay! A $135M baby-killing machine. But I thought fundies were against abortion. I guess it's OK for |
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