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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:31 AM Original message |
Handy Guide to 13 Bluedog Democratic Senators Opposed to the Public Option |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. Bill Nelson is intermingled with Ben Nelson info ... Bill ain't that pretty. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Yea that ain't Bill Nelson's picture either |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I fixed the Nelson's... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. I can't imagine how they could |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. Good list. Doesn't Kay Hagan (C for confused-NC) belong on the list? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) says she now supports a public option |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. If that is indeed confirmed, that is great news. Guess lots of calls in worked! |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Link |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Actually, I think our "C" Senator, said she would 'consider' supporting a public option |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. All politics is local, and the USA is my locale |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
6. All 13 oppose public option!? well that 60 vote majority just fell to 47 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. They just need to vote for cloture and 3 of them need to suck it up and do the right thing. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
8. What the heck is with Wyden and Cantwell? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Wyden said he's "open" to the public option, but prefers his crappy plan. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. I suspect Wyden's getting some big bucks from Kaiser Permanente |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
11. thanks. eom |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
12. That coward Bayh never answers his email or returns messages. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. But surprisingly Lugar does. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Geez, that makes me dislike Bayh even more! |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Yes, scary times. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
34. Despite being a Republican, Lugar is actually a good guy |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. Rec. so others can see it! |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
17. Thanks zulchzulu! So, I wonder if any of them can be persuaded. |
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blackbooks (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
19. Kent Conrad |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
20. Kick & R - this needs to be on the front page. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
21. It'd be nice to see a quote on their position from each one. Maybe I'll look for some after lunch. |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
23. Thanks for the link. Here's my letter: |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
24. Blanche Lincoln supports people funded public option |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
25. What are their excuses? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
26. What's Cantwell's problem? |
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mimitabby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
27. what is your problem with Cantwell? |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Uhm, the title of the thread is about senators opposed to the so called public |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
71. And unfortunately weak on just about everything else |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
29. Some of them are from safe Blue states |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
30. PEOPLE DON'T TRUST THIS INFO |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. A little Googling is your friend |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #35 |
56. you said he's on record against it |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. These people do not oppose public option, They have not answered to Dean concerning a public option. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
31. Thanks. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
32. Bravo! Thanks for the Info! |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
33. K & R! Fuck those fascist enablers. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
36. Seeking opinion here. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Nicely phrased in a polite yet firm fashion... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
38. They are (D) in name only |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. Thanks for all the work you put into putting this together. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Unfortunately the list can be used again and again... |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
40. replacement options |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. K & R-Saving & printing this out. Thank you for this fantastic list. n/t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. This list will be handy for a lot of other votes coming up too |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
43. WTF DIFI is against the public option? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Di Fi just needs to lose in the next election |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
72. "bankrupt" California??? |
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tledford (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
45. Most of these people *will* be replaced the next time they're up for election... |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. See, I'd add her to that list. Given the results in Washington st. the last |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. Except there are only 12 democratic senators on there |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. True... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
48. Cantwell and Wyden are not Blue Dog Democrats. They are not great supporters of a |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. I'm sorry, but you lose being called a "progressive" if you are not vocally FOR the Public Option |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Vocally? There may be 2 Dems in the Senate calling vocally for a public option and even the White |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
49. None of mine on that list. n/t |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
51. According to Stand with Dean most of are listed as Don't Knows |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. A "Don't Know" should be considered a "No" until they say they are for the Public Option |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Agree. Although we don't know how much bite the Public Option is |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. I prefer "Stand with Dean"'s approach |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
58. k&r Let's call these senators and get them on board. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
59. I suggest we e-mail each and every one of them and let them know |
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a kennedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-10-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
63. just keeping this info kicked..... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-10-09 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
64. nice to see that Tim Johnson is not on that list |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-10-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
65. Was pleased to hear Blue Dog Loretta Sanchez say today public option needed to drive down the cost |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-10-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. wasn't Mark Pryor the moron on Religulous that said "you |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
67. Deserves a kick for handy info.... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
68. What the fuck's up with Ron Wyden? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. He's got his own pet health care plan that panders to insurers |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Oh |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. "looks like he needs to hear from Oregonians." |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Thanks for the info kid! I've |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Merkley is a fantastic Senator and will be an up and coming leader |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. That's very good to know about Merkley |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
75. If your not a constituent they won't care much - unless you indicate that nationally |
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