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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 08:45 PM Original message |
Isn't It Amazing That The Healthcare Debate Is Between Rahm And The "Leftwing"? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. Besides the chess analogy these guys don't do improv and they don't leak |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. They certainly do! |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, it's infuriating. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. But My Point Is They Are Completely OUT OF THE HEALTHCARE Debate |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I think we agree. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Undoubtedly! |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. The problem is the Republicans don't even need to be involved |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. LOL!! Man, You're Pathetic |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Ad Hominem attacks aren't incredibly worthwhile |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. But Yet, You Never Miss An Opportunity To Disparage |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. ....if, and only if, it is actually progress |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Umm, Any Reform Would Be Progress |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. In what direction? The right-wing has their views of "progress" too. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Oh Brother |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Im arguing that we don't know what its effect will be on the overall system |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. LOL! But YOU Seem To Know That It Will Suck, Eh? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. No, I definitely do not know its effects, as I clearly pointed out |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. LOL!! OK Nostradamus!! What A Load Of Utter Crap! |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. "now a Public Option is experimenting w/ the Rightwing System" - YES! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Deleted message |
Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Who is the joke? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Oh Please |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Merely slowing down the GENOCIDE is OK with you but HE'S pathetic!? WTF? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Deleted sub-thread |
Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
39. If we manage to pull it off, it'll be atonement for 1993. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I think the 1993 reform was a steaming pile of horsecrap |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. Good insight offered, Oregone. |
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R. P. McMurphy (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I hope you are prescient. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. i wish I could share your optimism, but I am not at all sure that Rahm is |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. I find it more amazing the "leftwing" thinks that... well, not really. |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Don't show that to others, they will flip. nt |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It appears Obama and Rahm... |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Blah Blah Blah |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. my bitterness? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Huh? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. huh? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Muh? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. uh... duh? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Guh? |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
30. That is just gross - Obama is just a corporate stooge |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
40. I know you'd just love to see more Republican policies put in place |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. LOL! Now that is a funny, although irrelevant, reply |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
49. It's all "gamesmanship" with you. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. I'm John Dickerson? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hang on....aren't you the same one that claimed the debate was won and over a few weeks ago? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Uh, It Is Won |
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PopSixSquish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. And Isn't it Interesting That Today Harry Reid Found His Spine and Told Baccus to STFU |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Ins't Also Interesting How Rahm's Remarks REALLY FIRED Every One Up?? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. the left wing position is single payer |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Bullshit |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. it's true that the debate is happening on the dems' turf |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Not True |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. the progressive caucus in Congress favors single-payer |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. They're Support For The Public Option Too Should Tell You Something |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Maybe the OPs disconnect is assuming the Democratic Party represents the "left-wing" |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Amen. Obama dismissed Single Payer with a few trite words - it is too disruptive |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Disruptive? 75% of insured people going bankrupt in case of a medical catastrophe is disruptive |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
27. I will believe we will get a strong public option when I see it - terms such as Level Playing Field |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Deleted sub-thread |
redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
48. Oh yes... it's gotta be *killing* the republicans... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. Since Republicans don't have any plan at all, Democrats have to step up to play their role |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. Amazing how well everyone gets along here on this thread. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-08-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
61. I want to know how Howard Dean fits in with the administration on this... |
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