Lucy Ramirez revealed (Daily Kos)

[GimmeDANEger]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/21/3282/82718


I googled the name and the second hit was for a Republican website where Texas Congressman Ruben Hinojosa thanks Lucy Ramirez for her ability to facillitate local/federal partnerships.


She was mentioned by the Congressman because she is the Executive Director of Nuestra Clinica del Valle in Hildalgo County.
"This clinic was founded in 1971 and serves the people of Hidalgo county. This service area has been designated as a Medically Underserved Area and as a Health Professional Shortage Area. The clinic maintains six service sites and provides services such as laboratory, pharmacy, radiology, integrated eligibility, social services, family planning, HIV/AIDS testing and counseling, health education, and nutrition counseling."

This may very likely not be the Lucy Ramirez that Burkett was referring to.

[girl gone mad]

1. Come on DUers..

We should be able to dig up more of a connection than that.

Can you post Burkett's quite, please?

[Chili]

2. it's very possible that the name "Lucy Ramirez"

...was not her name.

I googled, too, and found some other coincidences - like this one:

http://www.easternmfg.com/contact_us/contact_us.asp

Isn't "Titan" one of the companies in Iraq with contractors involved in Abu Ghraib? Maybe I'm thinking of something else... maybe it's not the same Titan.

Also, this one: http://www.seedsoflearning.org/scholarships.html

Nicaragua and El Salvador? LOL - coincidence. Or sick joke.

Edit: yep, coincidence: different Titan.

[shrike]

12. I agree

First thing that popped into my mind. Who's to say she used her real name?

[DoYouEverWonder]

3. According to the NY Post, Roger Stone is in the middle of all this

a long time Rove buddy, who goes back to Reagan and Lee Atwater, may be the source of the documents. This is the same guy who organized and paid the Miami Mob during the recount and then went on to join Al Sharpton's campaign.


Folks if this is true, we have a direct link to the WH. (Found this tidbit in GD 2004)


http://www.nypost.com/commentary/30555.htm (scroll down)

The hot rumor in New York political circles has Roger Stone, the longtime GOP activist, as the source for Dan Rather's dubious Texas Air National Guard "memos."

The irony would be delicious, since Rather became famous confronting President Nixon, in whose service a very young Stone became associated with political "dirty tricks."

Reached at his Florida home, Stone had no comment.


http://www.famoustexans.com/karlrove.htm

Career: In the years of the Watergage scandal, Rove's career as a big-time political handler began with a motley crew of friends and associates. He was chairman of the College Republicans when George Herbert Walker Bush was chairman of the state Republican Party in 1973. He won the presidency of the College Republicans in a race against Terry Dolan. The late Lee Atwater, who later became famous as the political attack dog for the Reagan-Bush team, managed Rove's campaign. Dolan went on to become a Soft Money pioneer by helping form the National Conservative Political Action Committee, then died of AIDS in 1986 at age 36. Dolan's advisers in his loss to Rove were Charlie Black, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone. Those three were later instrumental in the success of Ronald Reagan's 1984 campaign.

Atwater joined the consulting firm of Black, Manafort and Stone after the '84 election. The firm later worked for the 1988 Bush-Quayle campaign. Two of Nixon's dirty tricksters also worked for Bush-Quayle: Frederick Malek, Bush's Republican National Committee rep, who had compiled lists of Jews in the Bureau of Labor Statistics as part of Nixon's investigation of a "Jewish Cabal;" and Dwight Chapin, who was jailed for lying to a grand jury about hiring Donald Sigretti to disrupt the 1972 Democratic primary campaign of Senator Edward Muskie. Chapin worked under Manafort in 1988. The firm's other clients included drug-connected Bahamian Prime Minister Oscar Pindling, Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos, and UNITA, the South African-supported Angolan rebel group led by CIA asset Jonas Savimbi. Lee Atwater lobbied for UNITA. All of which began when Atwater was introduced to George Bush in 1973, by his good friend Karl Rove.

[True_Clarity]

5. That reads more like gossip than substance

"Hot rumor" should not be purported as facts.

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. Thanks for the tip

Now I know I'm onto something.

Oh by the way, Stone was also on Bush's transition team and got all kinds of special favors for his gaming/casino interests.

Lee Atwater worked for Stone and guess who worked for Atwater?

Gee just another one of those coincidences I suppose.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

7. Yuk Yuk

I like the fact he had "no comment" instead of a straight out denial.
Keep digging.

[DemBones DemBones]

13. There's another thread here with a photo of Roger Stone and

his HISPANIC WIFE. Perhaps she played the role of Lucy?

[Bandit]

11. Oh come on now don't you remember the ninties?

All the "facts" about Clinton that were reported as news for eight straight years. Not a single "Fact" turned out to have any truth to it but they are still being reported today as "fact".

[True_Clarity]

4. Uhhhmmm you do realize. . .

That Congressman Rubén Hinojosa is Democrat right and that, that is a Democratic website so it would not look good for us.

[Carni]

10. But isn't he sort of a DINO?

I just scanned some articles about him and it appeared there was an upheaval about his siding with the GOP??

Maybe I had better go back and read again!

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. Ruben Hinojosa is not a Republican

He is a Democrat.

[Nederland]

14. Correct

He is a Democrat

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?member=TX15&site=congressmerge

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[BlueNomad]

15. Don't get crazy people....

yes that congressman is a DEMOCRAT.... and that seeds of learning Lucy Ramirez is dead (was killed in an accident) and that scholarship fund was subsequently named for her....

[itcfish1]

16. Lucy Ramirez

Could be Lucia Ramirez or Luz Ramirez