The Presstitutes want to play Kerry's poll numbers are down game

[WinterStorm]

If they say that Kerry's poll numbers are down then they can bash Kerry and glorify Bush as much as they want to without anyone complaining that they are bashing him for no reason at all.

If they keep playing the Bush is up in the polls then it makes it possible for BBV and the possibility of Bush stealing the election.

We have to find a way to bring out the corporate owned whores and what they are up to.

[still_one]

1. won't work

they tried that for Gore and they looked like fools

Only this time Kerry will win by a clear majority

Do not forget there are at least four supreme court justices who might be up for nomination

[catchthefever]

2. Those polls

I was the lucky recipient of one of those polls during the democratic primary. The questions were worded like this:
"blah blah liberal John Kerry..."
or
"<powerful, awe-inspiring> Pres. GW Bush"

So I got tired of it, and started asking the poll taker questions in return, like who was paying for this poll. The guy told me his company was hired to ask these questions. My final response was that there was no way in fucking hell I was voting for that idiot Bush.

Of course, I got the phone call shortly after the AZ Republicans sent me a questionairre with a demand for $$$. They INSISTED that I was registered Republican.

[newyawker99]

5. Hi catchthefever!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[catchthefever]

7. Thanks!

I've been lurking, but finally decided to participate. I will probably lose my job, again, if this jerk is re-elected.

[Pachamama]

3. Actually, this is a good thing for us....If the polls showed the "true"

lead that Kerry has in the polls, then people who are normally not inclined to go vote, might think twice to go get it in to make "the difference" and be that 1 extra vote needed. On the otherhand, if the presstitutes lied and showed numbers like they did with Bush in the lead, well, that only served to motivate us further....I'm not worried, in fact I take it as an excellent sign that the Freepers I know have stepped up their attacks recently...means they are scared...but I don't rest until I know they are out of the game...there are still 42 days for them to pull tricks and they are working hard at it....

[Lexingtonian]

4. oh, c'mon...enough with the defeatism already

The polling story is complicated- some outfits (Gallup and some private ones working for e.g. Time, Newsweek) think that the turnout differential that Republicans are telling them will be generated (15-20% of the Republican base size) is actually going to happen. Others, like Zogby, are seeing far less Republican turnout uptick in their actual telephone pollings. The reason to weight Zogby's (lower) numbers more heavily is that Republicans (read: Ralph Reed) probably had to get their turnout increase defined in August, in time for their Convention, to 'close the deal' with these voters via Bush's Big Acceptance Speech.

Look at it this way: Joe Average voter was or wasn't convinced by Bush's Acceptance Speech on September 2. Anyone who wasn't simply isn't going to vote for Bush because (a) Bush has nothing else left to offer, and (b) there is no case for voting against Kerry. So Bush has maxed out.

Kerry's numbers aren't sinking, it's just that a lot of his voters went back to Undecided (yes, they'll be back) because Bush effectively changed expectations of Kerry with the swing voters. It's taken Team Kerry a while to figure out how to meet these expectations and hit back on Bush, who is unable to actually meet the same bar.

Bush's numbers are in fact sinking. He's not going to lose hardcore and softcore Republicans and Republican leaners, which combined make up 44-45% of the American electorate at normal turnout rates. He is bleeding the more conservative two thirds of the Nader vote. He is bleeding a few Independents back to Undecided. The real question is whether he's losing his Christian Right extra turnout- people who usually don't vote, mostly because they feel unqualified and unwilling to decide and unhappy with all the choices offered them.

So it's a pretty safe bet that Undecideds at the moment are to 90%+ Nader or Kerry voters, waiting for some Sign From Above to commit themselves to either one to pollsters.

[ClassWarrior]

6. Amen. We're gonna win. We just need to win big.

Fight... fight... fight... till November 2...

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