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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:06 PM Original message |
I'm not part of the choir any longer ... Obama's recent boost to The War Machine has lost me. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. you haven't been part of the "choir" for quite some time... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Oh stop! I've been supportive of Obama. You know that, I'm just a person who does not ADORE |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. my opinion is that once in office, he found out that it will take longer to get out than he planned. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
277. "We Seek No Wider War!" |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #277 |
338. OBAMA IS NOT A GOD... but i believe he is looking for a greater good |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
293. I hope you are not suggesting that anyone who supports Obama |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
374. You are part of the choir! |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
406. Koolaid Has Gone Stale and Rancid... The Numbers Are Increasing Daily! |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
407. your an died in the wool Obama basher. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Nevermind... |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. We'll leave when we run out of people to bomb. |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. or until it's no longer profitable. |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
101. Jobs and manufacturing, baby. Military Industrial Complex RULES. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
279. Or perhaps Phil Ochs said it best: |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #279 |
423. Phil Ochs was brilliant |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
377. Our war materiel is also made overseas. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
228. The warmongers won't be happy unless there is complete and total annihilation |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #228 |
250. But genocide is good for the economy... |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:30 AM Response to Reply #250 |
318. Madeline Albright's exact words |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #250 |
359. or as moron* stated back on Feb 14th 2007, "money trumps peace". nt |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #228 |
319. You forgot to add they won't be happy until |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama's "plan" seems to be to allow Republicans to keep running their wars |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. Meh. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Are you old enough to remember Vietnam? If so, the "unwinding" is eerily similar |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. He's working on an orderly exit to Iraq..... not fast enough for you, apparently... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I've studied military history. There's no orderly exit from an occupation that has been LOST. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. We bow to your voiciferous intellect, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
84. Hey, do you have a link for public polling in Afghanistan? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #84 |
124. At one point, 90% of the public supported the invasion of Iraq. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #124 |
135. I don't mean polling of Americans. I mean of Afghans. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. LOL! I'm sure that participating in polls is a top priority over there. n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. The most recent poll I can find shows a narrow majority of Afghan support for the mission, |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Good to know that foreigners know how to spend my tax dollars.I just don't see how we can afford it. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #142 |
146. I'm not using approval of the war in Afghanistan to support any particular point. nt |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. I am. nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #148 |
201. That doesn't make sense. You haven't referenced Afghan polling yet. nt |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #201 |
218. Let me clarify: I use my questions & answers to make points. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #135 |
344. Yeah, can you pole displaced people, is it by phone, cell phone, knock on doors? |
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vanbean (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #344 |
368. They have tin cans and string strung all over the place there. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #124 |
172. the rightwing noise machine did its job |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #172 |
173. From the looks of this thread, seems like it is still is doing it's job. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. Its all of the paid trolls |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #175 |
185. Good to know that someone besides multi-national corporations are copping a buck. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #175 |
233. Yep-paid trolls are playing DU like a violin & working overtime trying to make shit smell |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #233 |
386. Agree 100%, earth mom. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #173 |
186. Funny How That Happened, Isn't It??? Makes Me Wonder All The Time... n/t |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
182. Not Fast Enough Fro Me Either.... AND I REMEMBER Viet Nam!!! |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. You'll probably need to look up how many south vietnamese died after we left.. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
134. Should we have stayed, then? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
169. You'd think someone with such strong intellectual powers... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #169 |
248. Yes, easier to make a personal attack. I know that we killed close to 2 MILLION Vietnamese |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #248 |
362. Why should they be left to fix what we broke? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
286. Colin Powell was an idiot for saying that. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
324. The aftermath was a consequence of going in. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
340. Actually, the purge after the fall of Saigon is best estimated to be |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
89. Do YOU remember how long it took to get our troops out, |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #89 |
251. Well, I don't have the exact numbers but the withdrawal was a massive clusterfuck at the bitter end. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #251 |
353. deleted |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
224. It's unfair to ask him how many more should die. |
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Wickerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. My guess is that Obama is running up against the cold harsh reality of how |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. He's complying with the Status of Forces agmt in Iraq; and he told you he was going to Afghanistan |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. We're not surprised, just disgusted. n/t |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. You could have been disgusted 10 months ago |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The Surge to include increasing numbers of mercenaries and troops from Columbia. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
402. All I know is |
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asphalt.jungle (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. their disgust would have meant more back then |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I was hoping that we could change his mind. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
67. so you are pissed he didnt change his mind like you wanted him to? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. I'd like him to change his mind on a few things too.... |
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asphalt.jungle (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
152. oh so executing the plans he campaigned on is only good if you agree with them |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. For me personally it has been ongoing on this topic for as far back |
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tan guera (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
300. I was |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
409. they where and they called themselves PUMA |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. Can I have your parking spot? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I dibbs on the robe |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. LOL, I didn't know you cared. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. I don't, I have a robe fetish |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Yes, it will match that big ass CROSS that you love to drag around. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. well we all have to do our part, |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. No, it's called taking a principled stand albeit unpopular, |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Right, now talking about crosses you may need a forklift . |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
128. But it's your cause that's deemed *righteous* as it conforms with the blessed Party line? NT. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. your rant has become increasingly incoherent |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. I can't sing either - but I sure prefer our current president to McCain Palin |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
183. But "We KNEW" What We Were Getting With McCain/Palin... We THOUGHT |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #183 |
354. Think harder. |
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scrappydo (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #183 |
410. That is the dumbest comment I have ever heard...... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
21. here... this is a guide for your journey |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Yes, wyldwolf, LOYALTY and party adherence to rules and authority are important to you. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm not a democrat. I'm a Democrat. I believe in loyalty |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I know you do wyldwolf. That's fully understood. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. This "my party right or wrong" routine is getting old |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
110. It's actually just cheap laziness masked in a shroud of "nobility" |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #110 |
200. CENTRISM !!!! |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
287. What a dumbass statement. The largest caucus in the Dem party |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
22. This is dramatic. You're lucky I don't sing or I'd offer to take your spot. I'm in the band. n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. We all know you are one of the naive pacifists so that doesn't suprise me. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Hello?!? I'm a former regular army officer. I graduated in the upper 5% of my |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Iraq wasn't. Afghanistan is. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
171. bullshit |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #171 |
181. *YAWN* |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #181 |
336. If you woulde pull your head out of your ass |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #171 |
257. Yep, that's why we emplaced our trusty puppet leader, the Mayor of Kabul, one each, |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Obama has nothing to do with building up the miliary complex, you play the hand you are dealt with |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. No, the region is continuing to be unstable because ... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. You have a point. Do you think the Taliban will back off going into |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. IMO, the Taliban want their niche. However, they KNOW that any nastiness occur in the USA, |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Well I live in CT, we have fed the beast here in many different ways. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
339. Pres Obama stated in a interview recently that he was fully aware of the Afghanistan |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
165. I don't care what the Taliban want, they need to be destroyed. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #165 |
253. Yeah, bomb them into the Stone Age Son. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
411. they already control regions of pakistan. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Pakistan is about to turn into a bigger mess then Iraq and Afghanistan |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Part of the reason Pakistan is becoming increasingly destabilized is because ... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Yeah, but now we made the mess. If we leave and the Taliban still keeps crossing over |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
424. pakistan has a history of letting Al queda fester |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. The "fanatization" of Pakistan.... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
164. That is simply not true. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #164 |
180. This IS simply true. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. That boarder has always been extremely porous. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #184 |
211. Yippee! |
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sandspur (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #211 |
254. So what about the foreign fighters? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #254 |
258. Nobody has INVADED Afghanistan and kept it for long. We only need to LEAVE. It will be bad |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #258 |
426. we will leave when we kill Bin Laden |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #426 |
430. He already dead. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #180 |
425. if that be the case |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. so have you enlisted yet, tough guy? I bet not.... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
38. The reaction here is so predictable... and so pathetic |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Maybe people, like the OP, should pay the fuck attention and people would take |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Obama should "reaccess" and stop taking his order from Wall Street and the Pentagon. NT |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
427. wow, the "wall street" meme is a RW talking point |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Oh boo fucking hoo. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. I'm not whiny, but I'm also not an "authoritarian lover" here. I've noted more than not |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
288. Some here are really good at using the Repub tactics, no? |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Oh Geez. Its called a discussion board. I am having a reasonable discussion. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
76. Yes, discussion is bullying. How dare people discuss things on a discussion board. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
139. LOL... yeah... who could have imagined a thread talking about 'the choir' |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
143. There are plenty of criticisms of the Democratic President here on the Democratic Underground. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #143 |
255. Thanks for posting, so I don't have to |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 03:36 AM Response to Reply #143 |
309. Sort of like "I'm never going to drink and stay up all night ever again" |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
187. Well Said... They're Hiring For Points Unknown OR Known Very Well!!! n/t |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
237. very predictable and the usual suspects are snapped-to attention |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
238. Pot kettle black ...you n/t |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #238 |
265. Sorry, I was waiting for someone to pay for my crack |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
48. Deleted message |
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81. Deleted sub-thread |
bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
52. Obama IS planning to pull "some" troops out. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. Good for you |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Another Soldier from our area died. A friend recently returned with hearing loss and traumatic |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
393. I AM a thoughtful military person, well below the rank of O5... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #393 |
397. Yes, I can understand the thought of giving Obama some time. |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #397 |
399. And this has turned out badly. No doubt about it... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #399 |
401. Yes, you have a valid point. I hope that this new strategy works with the peoples |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. You're not alone. Obama lost me over a whole bunch of issues. I won't vote for him again. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. So you no longer support him? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Good..see ya. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
117. Yes, you will. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. You never fully supported him then |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
118. I don't support an official. I support ideals and principles. If an official embraces and |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #118 |
334. Excellent post! n/t |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
129. and we have a |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Thank you. I'm dropping off and lurking. It's sad to see how many people are afraid to |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. We've been on the same path for decades. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
119. The problem with that analogy is, in order to turn the tanker |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. I thought announcing a timeline of getting troops out was turning the rudder. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
127. peace then.... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
166. Then get off this website. Now. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #166 |
174. Why? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #174 |
179. Because you are saying that you won't support the Democratic candidate in 2012. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #179 |
191. If you can point out where I said that, I'll go on my own. Deal? You know, |
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VespertineIconoclast (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #174 |
194. More detail as to why |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #194 |
198. I don't know who the Democratic nominee will be in 2012, and neither do you. Obviously |
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VespertineIconoclast (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #198 |
204. You asked the question of why, so I merely provided the answer of why... |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #204 |
219. So I should get off DU, then? |
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VespertineIconoclast (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #219 |
231. You do whatever you want to do. |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
232. President Palin thanks you (nt) |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
59. From one of your posts above, you said you hoped he'd "change his mind" on the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. +1 |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
85. +1 |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #65 |
291. "who didn't pay attention"? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #291 |
355. If that description doesn't fit you then ignore it. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #355 |
361. As a meme, it doesn't need to "fit me" for me to reply and |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #361 |
364. The plan has only changed slightly. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #364 |
366. The choir comment in the op was unnecesarily inflamatory. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #366 |
367. It's something I expect from RWers... |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #367 |
370. Agreed, it needs to stop. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. No, it's NOT my fault. I bet you fought "tooth and nail" to support Obama's CHANGE OF MIND |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Facism? Get out of here with that RW bullshit |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Ok, let's define it ... the FULL meshing of corporations with a government is ... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. Socialism. Obama is nationalizing corporations left and right. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. From the RW: "He's a socialist!"... from the left: "He's a fascist!" |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
91. Yes, it IS your fault... |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
196. See, when I said the same thing, I got told...well, see #166. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #68 |
328. Are you serious? Fascism with a velvet glove? |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
395. Good, then don't. Check out this website. You can get a jump on things... |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
64. Whatever. You knew Obama's plan for Afganistan throughout the campaign |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. And don't you love "part of the choir"? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. What's your problem? You're notorious for pot shots. That's you MO. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Not all "pot shots" are equal. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
74. You've never been part of "the choir." You've been a shrill, angsty sort since he took office. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Oh stop. This isn't about me. I'm just stating my opinion. Nothing more - nothing less. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. You say "I" or "me" five times in a very short OP. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. "I'M not part of the choir..." and "...he has lost ME".... but "This isn't about me." |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. "I'm not part of the choir...he has lost me...I'm so depressed and disgusted..." |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
115. I'm commenting and ASKING if others have the same impression. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Only you could write a post in which you do nothing but talk about how you feel, |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. I've talked about events and facts to while asking for input, not personal attacks because I have |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
82. Thanks for the update. Please keep us advised of your disappointment. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
86. Well then you fit in pretty well with the majority of active posters around DU |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
121. Or old moderate to conservative dudes at the Barber shop, bar and bus stop, for that matter. |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
87. Why were you part of the "choir" in the first place? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. She wasn't. She's been an extremely vocal critic since day 1. nt |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. OK then, she should have made herself clearer. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
90. How is our "occupation" of Afghanistan illegal? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #90 |
358. Apparently the logic is, since the war was illegal, the occupation is as well. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #358 |
379. How was the war illegal either? |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
95. Obama has already outlined his plans |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #95 |
206. The plans are "on track" ? |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #206 |
332. No. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #332 |
376. Withdrawls aren't linear. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #376 |
381. They've had six years to withdraw in an orderly fashion. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
97. This is fun............. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Yes, it's a negative OP about Obama, which you always find fun. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. You kill joy!!! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. "she doesn't like the Clintons either" - UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR! |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. That's why this turn around is even more fun. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #104 |
125. Why do you consider this fun? No, you'd be in the doghouse if I valued your opinion. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #125 |
159. Question all you want. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
98. Strange. In my memory, you one of the "Primary" people who hated Obama. nt |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
111. I can't imagine that.... she certainly hated Hillary more! |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #111 |
160. Yeah, she still can't forgive her for not dumping Bill. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
116. Too funny, I sided with Obama over Hillary. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. That's very true. You did always hate Hillary more than Obama. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
99. Oh no. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
105. As long as the ME is profitable to the United $tate$, will be bombing the shit of someone's kids |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Correction- as long as it is profitable to multi-national corporations who bribe DEMS and the GOP. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
106. Other than a few DUers , bribed DEMS &Bush Republicans, most people agree that we should leave Iraq. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
107. Hi, ShortnFiery - let me talk to you as a fellow leftist |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #107 |
120. Thank you. I wanted to see if I could get some ideas from those like minded. I appreciate |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
108. Don't kid yourself - you were NEVER part of Obama's choir - just another excuse to bash him... |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. She certainly supported him when it was down to him and Clinton! |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. Opposing an illegal war based on lies is an "excuse" to bash politicans? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #114 |
131. Oh, not because attacking a country who is not an immanent threat is ILLEGAL but also |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Mainstream America, voters both DEM and Republican, are also tired of spending BILLIONS in Iraq. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #131 |
145. Our current military operations are absolutely not illegal. We have explicit legal authorization |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #145 |
149. Just having to read sutff like that... "ILLEGAL" |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. I've never heard DUers indicate that the Invasion of Iraq was perfectly legal & above board. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. Oh, are we discussing the invasion now again? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. Yes. The invasion and therefore the war was and is illegal- or at the least immoral & Un-American. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. *sigh* |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Hard to argue that the Iraq War is perfectly above board & legal, isn't it? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. Yeah, that's exactly what's going on here. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. What's going on is an attempt to characterize the Iraq war as legal and above board. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #163 |
207. No, not really. Or at all, in fact. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #207 |
214. Why bother to characterize the war as legal at all, unless it is to justify support for it? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #214 |
215. Yes, why bother to tell uncomfortable truths? Better to tell pleasing lies. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #215 |
220. You can state facts all you want- so can I. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #220 |
221. You can state facts, but I have not yet seen any evidence of that ability. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #221 |
223. So I'm not allowed to see the war as one long, whole, FACTUAL event? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #153 |
205. Nobody has. Certainly not in this thread. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #205 |
210. I just don't see the need to strain & split hairs or justify this illegal, bull-shit war. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. You seem outright threatened by the fact that the current operations are legal. Why? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #212 |
216. I see one war in Iraq- not one "illegal" part and a subsequent "legal" part. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. That's very nice, but has nothing to do with international law. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #217 |
222. Be sure to quote International law to voters as you spend a few more billion of their money. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. Bush lied us into the Iraq war. That is arguably illegal and at the least, un American & immoral. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #151 |
199. Yes. The war against the nation of Iraq was illegal. The current operations are not. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #199 |
225. I'll bet one could quote UN paper work to argue that even Bush's invasion was not illegal. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #225 |
297. Which voters would I be talking to and why? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #297 |
417. The politicans who might say what you say will be the ones talking to voters. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #145 |
176. HItler had specific authorization from this Quisling fellow to occupy Norway, too n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #176 |
202. There wasn't really much of anything regarding international law in the 1930s and 40s, |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #131 |
333. You make some very radical statements that are not supported by facts. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
113. The fact that you were ever part of the choir will come as a great surprise to |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #113 |
136. Not true... she was a fierce proponent in the Primaries and the General Election. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #136 |
141. Yes, and I hope that I'm wrong. |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #141 |
241. "As a person who's mostly of average intelligence and insight, I hope that I'm wrong." |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #136 |
144. Self-Delete. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
428. She was part of the choir all right. The one who sang out of tune. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
140. Thanks for clarifying... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #140 |
147. Point taken. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. Hey now. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
154. dayum girl give him at least 1 yr ! if you get frustrated go watch a movie |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
162. Deleted message |
Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. Should I support spending billions in Iraq b/c the OP is stupid, or because Dick Cheney is smart? |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. That's EXACTLY what I was thinking! |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. LOL! In that case, where do I put in nominations for the 2nd stupidest? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #167 |
208. You seem to believe that the validity of an argument is entirely dependent |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #208 |
229. No- I seem to believe that attacking the OP as "stupid" was all the poster could come up with. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #162 |
244. Deleted message |
EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
177. I'm almost there as well. Not yet, but I am quickly becoming disillusioned |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
178. Sorry to hear you've thrown in the towel. |
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rustydog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
188. Syand alone and uninformed. It will take a while to extricate |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
189. It's like an Amway convention where a member stood up and questioned the new product line. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. yes, yes. people here who generally support Obama are mindless cheerleaders |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Wow you really misinterpreted that one blah blah blah |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #193 |
195. Notice the pattern on this thread? Very few people are saying that the Iraq War is a good thing. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #195 |
296. Here's what I don't get in this post. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #296 |
418. Good for the you and the OP- I'd rather talk about whether we should leave Iraq or not. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
190. who cares? how sad that you're depressed. as for angry, nothing new there. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #190 |
197. Maybe we shouldn't care how the OP thinks- but shouldnt we care about voters who agree with her? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #190 |
234. You should care that people are dying in the Middle East because of a LIE. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
203. *yawn* |
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solstice (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
209. Just seems like Obama has the same plan Bush had. I was never part of the "choir" but I was |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. So, er, which of Obama's promises regarding Iraq/Afghanistan has he gone back on? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #213 |
227. You are right. As long as he keeps it his basic promise, no huge problems from me. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #213 |
239. Oh come on. He was painted as the anti war messiah while his opponents were demonized as warmongers. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #239 |
294. While I appreciate the desire to bitch about the primaries, |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #239 |
387. Oh, you'd be surprised at the number of folks who swear they |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #209 |
341. Why don't you list all these failures so we can be as misinformed as you. |
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VespertineIconoclast (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #341 |
385. I really liked your response and I agree. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
226. If he had campaigned on increasing the troop deployment |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
230. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.The National Security State & the MIC are the real powers. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #230 |
256. Yes, he's exactly like Bush |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #256 |
259. Apparently it's too far a stretch for you to read the 2nd sentence in a 2 sentence subject line. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #259 |
262. Your implication is that change cannot be initiated from the top |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #262 |
269. What "implication"? I said it straight out. Geeze. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. You're right |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
235. What a riot |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #235 |
242. +100000 |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #242 |
245. Bingo. I tend to type my mind and methinks some people have not forgiven my passions |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #235 |
246. Your contention re: the decline of DU, is ALL my fault?!? |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #246 |
252. I'm saying you bear a great deal of responsibility... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #252 |
260. My God, you honestly take my breath away. You take message board posting far too personal. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #260 |
345. You project quite a bit in that post. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #345 |
369. With respect. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #369 |
384. Gosh, that was respectful. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #384 |
388. Thanks. I'm glad that we were able to reach détante. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #388 |
390. "FWIW - I promise not to spread "smack" about your person elsewhere." |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #390 |
391. Thanks much! I know that you are the kind of person who will extend to me the same courtesy. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #391 |
421. Right smack -- er, back -- at ya! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
236. I'll say it one last time in this thread: Obama's political career is NOT worth more than |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
240. I just want out of the Middle East. I really don't care how |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
243. Reading This Thread I Keep Wondering How The FREEPERS Must |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
247. What is your REALISTIC alternative.... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #247 |
249. While we are on the subject of hard realities, how many more BILLIONS should we spend in Iraq? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #247 |
261. I'd like to hear a lucid answer to that question, too. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #261 |
266. I'd like to hear some realistic alternatives from the pro-occupation voices.... |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #266 |
276. I'll play the answering questions with questions game. Why are you avoiding the original question? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #276 |
280. Why do supporters of a multi-billion dollar occupation based on lies get to ask all the questions? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #280 |
283. An exclusivity made up in your head, anyone is entitled to ask whatever they want. However... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #283 |
285. First, we have to define what "realistic" means. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #285 |
292. Seeing as the OP doesn't appear to be around, let's go for the dictionary definition |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:39 AM Response to Reply #292 |
295. The second one. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #295 |
378. Your plan is a tad flawed |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #378 |
414. No, it's perfect. And you have yet to present a plan to pay for this, flawed or otherwise. |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #247 |
272. You're making it too complicated |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #272 |
274. The REAL complicated questions involve how we PAY for continuing to stay in Iraq. |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #274 |
278. Dr, when you price out these wars |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #278 |
281. I'm not even sure we can price out this one. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #281 |
298. Re: where all of that cash went |
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tiny elvis (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 03:26 AM Response to Reply #281 |
308. Good Dr Fate |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:00 AM Response to Reply #272 |
299. I'm thinking anyone who was there for the fall of Saigon |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #272 |
360. The problem with the Vietnam analogy is that it took three years... |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #272 |
429. We did not have 500000 troops in Vietnam at the time we abruptly left. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #247 |
346. The realistic solution is to go third party, so the dens will lose the elections unless they |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #346 |
394. I'm for that. And when the republicans get back in I can take my |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #394 |
412. The dens can't win without us. And we need more than lip service |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #247 |
392. They have no fuckin clue. NONE. They spew idealistic |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #392 |
416. Do you have clue as to exactly how many more BILLIONS we will need to spend? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
263. I learned long ago not to vote for a politcian based upon what he says. That way |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #263 |
273. And who would vote for a man alleged to be not ready to be president on day #1? |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #263 |
284. And what SoS goes to work for a man she feels is only good for "speeches"? |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
264. Is this a joke? Any other poster but you, I might have taken seriously..... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #264 |
314. . |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
267. Thank you for standing up |
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woozard44 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
268. Disgusted |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #268 |
433. On my mind too. Winning the resultant peace after we leave (institution building) |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
271. You're nearly alone. n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #271 |
290. Oh, you think so? |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-02-09 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
275. ~sigh~NT |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
282. I want a new party. nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #282 |
289. Why not start your own? n/t |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
301. You are not alone.Wekcome to pre-crime,Locked away for years without charges |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #301 |
302. Because you "Might" be a criminal oneday.WTF. A Lieberman-Graham secrets bill?? |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:29 AM Response to Reply #302 |
303. What happened to the Obama I voted for? Even Field generals say stop military approach |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:30 AM Response to Reply #303 |
304. And start building schools and hospitals.More civilian involvement. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #304 |
305. Militay empires go to Afghanistan to die.They need aid not militray intervention |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:35 AM Response to Reply #305 |
306. Military involvment will last decades minimum. |
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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 03:36 AM Response to Reply #306 |
310. Clozapine has been found to be very effective. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:04 AM Response to Reply #310 |
325. i think thorazine might be a better fit for this one |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #304 |
396. Great! Let me start another Haliburton and get this gov't |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
307. FOUR MONTHS |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #307 |
434. Didn't we leave the equipment in Vietnam and World War 2? |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
311. a brigade a month was the rhetoric |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
312. Great, a cannibalism thread on DU |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #312 |
330. Hardly a joking matter though! |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
313. On and on and on.... |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:10 AM Response to Reply #313 |
315. and on... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
316. Tought crowd, huh? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
317. There IS a plan to wind down Iraq, and Afghanistan will take more time due to Bush's failures. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
320. I believe that the MIlitary Industrial Complex rules this country |
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GDAEx2 (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
321. ya, shoulda voted for McCain |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
322. The U.S. will never leave Iraq or Afghanistan. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #322 |
398. Guess what? We're stll in Germany, too! |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
323. K and R |
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Johnnyheadstone (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
326. Obama Sucks |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #326 |
342. I think that your post sucks. List some facts to support your position. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #326 |
400. I think YOU suck. eom. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
327. You are not alone. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
329. I'm coining a new term: "Sidley Austin Intern Moment" |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
331. There is Jus Ad Bellum in the Casus Belli for Afghanistan. We were attacked by their agents. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #331 |
350. There were no Afghans on the planes, just a Bunch of Saudis trained by CIA ex-operative bin Laden |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #350 |
375. I think we have done all we can in Afghanistan. We must now address Pakistan. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #375 |
404. I think we might want to follow the money and the perps - to Saudi Arabia, perhaps |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #404 |
405. I wouldn't go after Saudi Arabia anymore than I would Fla. and Az. |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #350 |
435. Weren't the Taliban hosting bin Laden in Afghanistan? |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
335. I voted for Obama and he has turned me off on many issues...... |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #335 |
436. How long did it take before Clinton filled out his cabinet and other political appointments? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
337. It's not that bad under the bus |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #337 |
413. Just remember to bring a blankey. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #413 |
422. busunders! |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
343. Looks to me like a great number of us have been converted to the |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #343 |
356. "Convert" implies the position has in some way changed. nt |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #356 |
365. Yes. From get out of Afganistan and Iraq now to maybe we |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #365 |
371. "get out of Afghanistan"? Where did you get that? Kucinich's platform? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #365 |
372. Obama never said he was for getting out of Afghanistan. He was always for increasing troop levels. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #372 |
380. Its like some people never watched the campaign or something |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #343 |
357. "Convert" implies the position has in some way changed. nt |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
347. Oh great .... |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
348. Technically, we're not in Iraq or Afghanistan illegally. The Iraq war may have been illegal |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
349. I think I'm with you... Sadly (especially after all the blood sweat tears and cash...) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
351. 53 recs |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
352. Obama is a master chess player. This is all part of his grand strategy. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #352 |
373. To do exactly what he promised to do during the campaign? That doesn't require chess. nt |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
363. Was the point militarism and occupations or a poke at the choir? nt |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
382. It may not be popular but I knew when Bush went in there it would be a McCain 20 to 50 yr occupation |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
383. I'm firmly in the Iraq is pointless and too wasteful of resources camp |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
389. choirs are for churches, not democracies n/t |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
403. How is Afghanistan immoral or illegal? |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-06-09 04:28 AM Response to Reply #403 |
432. Afghanistan supported the attack on 9-11? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-03-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
408. This thread is so fail. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #408 |
419. With 57 recs? What would constitute success? |
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elana i am (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
415. ***sigh*** |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-04-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #415 |
420. Thanks. I believe your comments come from the heart and a base of frustration. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-05-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
431. nice to see people finally seeing the light |
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