It is amazing that R's are so terrified of an intelligent woman...

[rasputin1952]

Whether it be Sotomayor, HRC, Michelle Obama, Katrina VandenHeuval, Rachel Maddow...you name her, and if she has brains, she is seen as a "threat". These clowns enjoy Nancy Reagan, Laura Bush, Michelle Bachmann...any woman that "knows her place" and shows a serious lack of intellectual curiosity.

I really have to wonder if these clods treat their mothers, sisters, wives like so much "baggage"? I'm watching Face the nation, and Kyle, like the other GOP loons, is just "playing the R tune" in his "analysis".

Every time these goomers insult women, they are insulting MY/OUR mother(s), and MY/OUR daughters...for this, I cannot find myself in a forgiving mood...:grr:

[vaberella]

1. Remember, "Women can't be in power." ~sigh~

[rasputin1952]

6. LOL...I can just imagine telling my mother that when I was a kid...

:D

Thankfully, she had power over me, helped to make me a decent huamn being...:D

[Captain Hilts]

13. Or host a late-night chat show. nt

[babylonsister]

2. That's what they're doing, playing the (r) tune.

If a man had been nominated, we'd be complaining about their complaints also. But this 'in your face' negativeness against a woman is very telling.

I still think this judge was a great pick, if only to show the rethugs' stripes.

[rasputin1952]

8. I think she is a brilliant jurist...

they took one thing out of context, out of hundreds of decisions, and they are trying to make it an "issue".

looks like a kamikaze attack to me...:D

[madeline_con]

3. To answer your question, YES, they treat their mothers, sisters, wives like so much "baggage".

What makes me :mad: is the number of women who think no more of themselves than to allow it!

[rasputin1952]

9. Yes, excellent point...

:hug:

[Turbineguy]

4. I read somewhere

that research showed that smarter women (and men obviously) were better in bed.

[rasputin1952]

10. Damn, I must be a phenomenon!

:rofl:

[madeline_con]

21. A Repuke woman just lays there like a log with a hole in it.

That's why Repuke men like hookers, they'll "do stuff". :rofl:

[rhett o rick]

28. How about Condi? Is she the exception to the rule? nm

[Lorien]

29. ....

:spray:

[Yavin4]

5. What About Sarah Palin?

Are you saying that she's not smart?

/sarcasm

[rasputin1952]

12. ...

:D

[Triana]

7. corporate types are of the same attitude as are 20-30-something geek boys...

...most see women as inferior if human at all - thus the problem women have in fields like IT with discrimination and harassment.

I'm not defending the pigshits' collective misogyny - just saying it's part of a larger male attitude towards women - and particularly intelligent women. To these men, an intelligent woman is something to be at war with - to defeat - to ruin - to destroy (to save and salve their own male insecurity and maintain their sense of superiority and control).

Likely, most of these men are Republicans - but they all aren't - and yea they all see women as so much baggage - and as someone who "doesn't need" to work to make a living because she "can get married'. That attitude STILL prevails.

[Captain Hilts]

15. It's not just men. WOMEN feel more comfortable criticizing other women than they do

men.

Remember, nearly 50% of women voted for GWB in '04.

[madeline_con]

18. People say that, but Chimp stole both those elections.

I refuse to believe the majority of voting Americans are that stoopid! :bounce:

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[Triana]

20. Exactly. Stolen - broken voting system.

Still not fixed either.

[Triana]

19. I know some VERY sexist women (sexist against other women)

I've worked for/with a few of them. HATED working with women and discriminated / colluded against them. But I think they are in no way a majority. They do exist though.

[rasputin1952]

22. I had a female Chem instructor at the local Comm College...

she is a Russian immigrant. She has an MD from Russia, (not valid in the US), and a Phd in Chemistry, she worked on a team in France that received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry a few years ago...absolutely brilliant and a s warm a person as you'd ever want to meet. She terrifies some people because of her credentials, but after 2 minutes w/her, you can't help but have the greatest respect for her humanity and brilliance.

For me, it took about 30 seconds to realize I was in the presence of someone exceptionally special, and that I could learn an incredible amount from her. She has the greatest respect from me, and for those few who still see her as "just" a woman, they get a serious ration of reality from me.

Sadly, she was stricken w/colon cancer, but received some damn good treatment, and is on the mend...BTW, she is just 37...w/a 3 yo son and a nephrologist husband. The world would be a lesser place w/o her. But the prognosis is excellent...:D

[Captain Hilts]

24. What a great experience for you. Fingers crossed for her. nt

[Triana]

30. Awesome. I hope she recovers completely

The world needs more brilliant people like her. It would be a shame to lose even one.

[Lorien]

31. Yep. I've actually been told the very same

"You don't need a job. You can just get married".

Yeah, well, as a woman with thoughts and ideas of her own, apparently I can't.

[Captain Hilts]

11. Yep. They like doormats, or women that hate other women.

ER: Sing it with me - everything old is new again...

[rasputin1952]

14. One of the greatest women in US history...

:D

[Captain Hilts]

17. Harry Truman said...

she was one of the greatest people that ever lived.

He didn't throw praise around lightly.

[The_Commonist]

16. "Woman is the nigger of the world...

...Yes she is...think about it
Woman is the nigger of the world
Think about it...do something about it

We make her paint her face and dance
If she wont be a slave, we say that she don't love us
If she's real, we say shes trying to be a man
While putting her down, we pretend that she's above us

Woman is the nigger of the world...yes she is
If you don't believe me, take a look at the one you're with
Woman is the slave of the slaves
Ah, yeah...better scream about it

We make her bear and raise our children
And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother hen
We tell her home is the only place she should be
Then we complain that shes too unworldly to be our friend


We insult her every day on tv
And wonder why she has no guts or confidence
When she's young we kill her will to be free
While telling her not to be so smart we put her down for being so dumb

Woman is the nigger of the world
Yes she is...if you don't believe me, take a look at the one you're with
Woman is the slave to the slaves
Yes she is...if you believe me, you better scream about it

We make her paint her face and dance..."



John Lennon

[HopeOverFear]

34. John Lennon wrote that??? Damn that brother was deep

RIP

[Forkboy]

23. Sadly, I see that everywhere, it's just seems extra concentrated on the Right.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. indeed

[firedupdem]

25. Rec'd n/t

[sofa king]

27. Fear is a big part of "keeping down."

Conservatives have a deep-seated motivation to continue to marginalize women, minorities, GLBTs, and non-batshit religions.

The reason is that they fear that if given power, those groups which have been so exploited and mistreated by Republicans will turn around and do to them what they well know they're actually doing right now.

And for you lurkers out there, know this: that's exactly what I want to do to you.

[Karenina]

32. Guilty consciences!

;-)

[HopeOverFear]

35. Right, they're afraid of reaping what they've sown.

Because they know they've got it coming. And it's coming.

[Karenina]

36. In spades!

:evilgrin:

[HughMoran]

33. Obama should nominate ONLY woman for the Supreme Court

This would be awesome & there's no reason that the court shouldn't be 50:50 male/female with appropriate minority representation as well anyway.

[Mira]

37. Being a vocal liberal intelligent woman :) I have found what you have to

especially watch out for is passive aggression.
They can't get you any other way, and get you they must.

[rasputin1952]

38. Most people are not overt bigots, after all, that does not go over well...

however, as you stated, the passive/aggressive situation is there, and it is harder to deal with than other forms of bigotry...:(

[Honeycombe8]

39. So are male Dems. You think it's an accident that Sotomayer is single?

Or that Madelyn Albright was divorced and never remarried? Or that Janet Napolitano is single?

Many intelligent, powerful women are married. But a far higher percentage of them are single than are intelligent, powerful men.

But the next time you see a sexy blonde without a brain, stop and ask her if she is married or has a boyfriend. Wanna bet what her answer is?

It's just the way of the world, I guess. But it HAS gotten better in the last couple of decades, as more and more women climb into positions of power.

[rasputin1952]

40. The R's were terrified of Madelyn Albright, and are afraid of

Janet Napolitano as well.

I understand that "looks" have a lot to do with many things, but only initially, (this is why cosmetics is a multi-billion dollar a year industry). The vast majority of people I know, realize that "beauty" is essentially superficial, and will always remain in the eye of the beholder. The people I know want to move forward intellectually and an excellent way to do that is w/someone you respect and admire, whether male or female and look forward to an intellectual journey.

Dolts don't cut it, (AFAIC), no matter how "good" they look; I'll take mental acuity any day...:hi:

[Beacool]

41. I agree with you,

But the Republican women you mentioned are not stupid. Let us not do precisely what you are decrying. Besides, the primaries taught me one lesson: the left can be as sexist as the right.

:-(

[rasputin1952]

44. Those 3 R's are pretty dumb...there is a reason I left 2 off...

Coulter and, (I had to think twice about this one), Maklin; they are not stupid, but they aren't exactly Mensa material either. Nancy, Babs and Laura have lived a lives of privlege and have not hda to use their mental facilities to move forward, they just enjoyed the friuts of others labors.

Coulter and Malkin have actually had to use their brains, (even if it is for evil), and that is a difference that is notable.

[ClarkUSA]

42. In Judge Sotomayor's case, they're more terrified of her ethnic group's growing Dem allegiance...

... which will leave their party in a permanent minority.

[politicasista]

43. She is one of many serious threats to their agenda

That's why we are seeing all the nasty hate and vitriol towards her and others who challenge or expose their RW ideology.

[old mark]

45. R: The "christians" on the RW don't view women as real people,

mainly just as cooks and breeders - men are in charge, women are certainly not. They tend to subscribe to an old testament world view, and not anything like an accurate one. They are rigid, paternal, not at all logical or reasonable - they BELIEVE - they do not THINK!
They essentially believe in a corrupt version of fundamentalism with elements of magic. They cannot be reasoned with or expected to obey laws ot to be decent human beings - they are not.

mark

[rasputin1952]

47. I have known many a Christian, Jew and Muslim during my time

on this planet, i can assure you that this is not a "Christian" problem. it is societal problem and encompasses vast areas of this society. I know plenty or R's that espouse no religious affiliation at all, and yet take a dim view of women in general.

Any specific religion does not hold title to being misogynist, we were educated in a society that devalued women, this came about in this country, in the early 1800's, prior to that, women were essentially seen as equals, except in small circles.

[old mark]

49. This is referring to the RW fundamentalist "christians" - I do know

several christians who are somewhat sane, but they are not fundies.

mark

[rasputin1952]

50. I don't want to sound as if I'm being trite, but over the years, I've

seem so many attacks on religion in general that it has almost become the nature of things. We seem to have lost the idea that there are many in religious aspects that have done great good, and most religious people just want to get on with their lives.

For every zealot, regardless of the religion, there are thousands of people who do good because they believe in the tenets of the religion they subscribe to. For every zealot w/o a religion, there are thousands who do good simply because they believe doing good far outweighs the alternative.

I understood your post, but for clarity, I answered as I did, it was not meant to offend, but to clarify...:hi:

[LynneSin]

46. The sad and awful truth is this: Republicans have no way of stopping this nomination

Obama was smart to pick Sotomayer.

First because she's damn capable of doing the job and will make an excellent addition to the Supreme Court (replacing another excellent Justice) but also because the Republicans are dead in water with this candidate. Republicans Snowe & Collins have both expressed positive views on Sotomayer and will vote with the democrats on her nomination. Plus not one democrat has come out in opposition of her. So even with just 99 senators we have more than the 60 needed to sit her on the bench without any fuss of a filibuster.

So what few republicans are left are doing nothing more than grandstanding and in the process they are alienating even more women and hispanic voters with their actions.

[rasputin1952]

48. Your last sentence sums this up perfectly...

and nothing pleases me more than seeing the R's alienating even more people...:D

[saltpoint]

51. Agree. Sotomayor represents top-drawer accomplishment fueled by

serious brain power.

Not at ALL the sort of gal the GOP wants around.

On Michelle Bachmann. It will be interesting to watch the Republicans when the time comes (and it can' be far off) when Bachmann is hauled off to a locked psychiatric ward and the GOP will have to support the health care reforms necessary to treat her versus their long-standing opposition for people-directed programs.

[rasputin1952]

53. Bachmann has some very serious problems w/reality...

after the last election, where she won by a hair, almost anyone based in reality would realize this was a wakeup call, after all, she almost lost to an unknown who had little money and it was a GOP district...but reality is not in the cards for Bachmann. seems to me, with each new screed from her, she seems to inching her way to oblivion...even the R's in her district are embarrassed by her behavior...:D

FWIW...if she's shipped off to a facility, she should be made to pay for it herself, no insurance, (pre-existing condition), no gov't funds, ("gov't should not pay for health care")...:evilgrin:

[saltpoint]

54. LOL. Yes. She should pay for every dime of her care.

And god knows she could use the long-term treatment.

[rasputin1952]

56. ...

:rofl:

[Balbus]

52. Were you around here during the primaries?

I was amazed at how many D's were terrified of an intelligent woman...

[rasputin1952]

55. Was I around during the Primaries...LOL...

I received many a Purple Heart during that war...:D