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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:40 PM Original message |
Obama Massive Fail - Universal Single Payer Not For Profit Health Care The Only Solution |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Heh. Obama sucks! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Every time you get in the car, you wonder: is this the ride that will take my home, my life? |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. Living if fear is worse that injecting yourself with blood flood a deiseased rat |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's not gonna happen. And for good reason: the voters don't want it. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong - The American Oligarchs Don't Want It |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Reality doesn't mean we need to give up the fight for it. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Don't Repeat The Right Wing Oligarch Meme - The American Do Want Single Payer |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I don't know anyone, not one person, who wants a public system only. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Everyone I know, with the exception of one dittohead freeper, wants |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Perhaps you live in a Secure Gated Community. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Spotted As A Health Insurance Cheerleader - How's That Working For You By The Way? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I'm all for it if you can assure me that it won't be like Medicaid |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-12-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Don't even Start A Flame War On This Issue - I Lived The Hell For 5 Years |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. sounds like our HMO but that HMO is for profit lol (starts with bluuuuuuuue) nt |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. "But they narrowed it down to two candidates, neither of whom thought single-payer would be the way" |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I voted for O. I read his campaign website, where his plans on the |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You picked the right man. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Nice of you to tell me why I voted for Obama. Sounds like |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Not really... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. The MSM narrowed the race down to two candidates |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. The horror stories are being brought to you by the same people |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
57. Not sure whos Navy you were in. |
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JustinL (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. according to an AP poll from 2007, most Americans support single-payer |
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JPettus (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. I lived in Germany for five years |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. What Corporate talking point wagone di you fall off of? |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. of course you would start hearing horror stories now |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. The plan is not to "radically" switch. The plan is/was to offer a public plan as an option ... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. The voters do want it |
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subterranean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
55. The horror stories are greatly exaggerated. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
20. Agreed..but we need to be REALISTIC!! n/t |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. 40 Million Americans Want Solutions Not Realism - Fuck Realism! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Let me be frank. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Were the Cuban's being realistic with their Healthcare reform? |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
21. I don't agree with Obama on this issue, but ... |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. In 2003 He Was A Supporter - Those Facts Posted Here At The Very DU |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Show me the proof... |
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Puzzler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Well, he wasn't a supporter in 2008... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. Single Payer is paid by taxes in other countries. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 05:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. How stupid do you think I am to prefer a $450 a month "premium"-- |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Tell It Eridani - Obama's Massive Fail Will Be His Legacy |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Yawn. n/t |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
27. Well, welcome to the real world where our president is not perfect and things work imperfectly. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. He Supported Single Payer Back In 2003 - He Can Support It Again |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I think that Obama has found the realities of what he can or cannot do as president |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
31. PEOPLE CALM DOWN |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. You Live Without Health Care Access For 5 Years And Then Tell Me To Calm Down! |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. I've lived without it for 10....so I can most definitely say "CALM DOWN!" |
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livefreest (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
59. ok. point taken |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
43. Bullshit. Single Payer is not realistic. It would never happen with this Congress |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Exactly. n/t |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Shh. I'm sick and tired of your reasoned arguments and facts. n/t |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
47. PROGRESSIVES MASSIVE FAIL: Believing THEIR way is the ONLY WAY. n/t |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. the travelocity gnome sure is pissed, isn't he? |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
53. All Obama has to do is expand Medicare or Medicad... |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
56. K&R |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
58. So in your view, we shouldn't even be discussing other options? |
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