Who is the most liberal member of the USSC?

[Uzybone]

What do you all think?

[ruggerson]

1. Stevens hands down

but even he is no Marshall or William Brennan

[Uzybone]

2. the President has mentioned Marshall as his favorite

I think we will get justices of similar leanings.

[cali]

17. not how most court scholars see it

they pretty uniformly consider Stevens, Ginsburg and Breyer to be virtually in the same place ideologically.

[TexasObserver]

22. co-sign this post, entirely

[Gormy Cuss]

3. Ginsburg, followed by Stevens, then Breyer.

edited to correct brain burp.

[MADem]

4. Who are the bozos voting for Scalia et al?

They don't realize the admins can see how you vote, I guess.

[whistler162]

7. We all fall to the temptation on these "polls"

Especially the extremely biased polls that make the choices for you.


Just call me Mr. Kelly!

[Liberal_in_LA]

13. The admins look at how we vote?

:scared:

[MADem]

15. They can. I'm guessing they have better things to do most days, though.

Some jerk posted an offensive poll a long while back. I forget what it was about, the Holocaust or segregation or something clearly hot-button. It had a few "offensive" responses in the poll, and some people voted for the offensive answers.

IIRC, a couple of people got shitcanned that night.

[Liberal_in_LA]

16. Oh ok. Now we know. Some may vote that way just to be snarky, not that they really mean it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. i think the admins have a sense of humor. the only people they ts'd for a poll

were racists.

[NewJeffCT]

5. Whoever just retired is the most liberal, according to Republicans

when there was talk a few years ago that Ginsberg might step down due to illness, I believe some in the GOP started calling her the most liberal justice in history... I'm not kidding.

But, I think she is the most liberal on a very conservative SC right now.

[randr]

6. There is not one liberal on this court!

[JayMusgrove]

8. You got that right! No one is on the court who had a hard time

getting money to go to college, to law school, or getting a good job, (except for the ONLY WOMAN!!!!)........

Yeah, we know how America has neglected and overlooked 1/2 of her talents for hundreds of years...and more people denied when you consider all people of color, of all genders, Michelle shows us that.

I think even we liberal progressive whatever Democrats that elected Obama need to think that the world will change momentously in 7.5 years while Obama is President, for one thing we will stop treating women, gays, blacks, browns, yellows and even purple people as second class citizens, will stop thinking that we cannot find 3000 people of any gender, any race any ethnicity to be well qualified leaders of America. In a nation of 300,000,000, or more, America has recently, (in the last 25 years)educated at least 1/100th of one percent of her people to be leaders.....and ethnicity and race and sexual orientation made no difference.

Only white men will have to prove themselves capable, something they seldom have had to do

[AJH032]

9. Now, that is racist

You can't just assume that a white male, even a white male who didn't "suffer" at any point in his life, cannot be a liberal. Political philosophy and life experience/race are not necessarily directly linked.

Similarly, there are non-whites who have had difficult lives who do not consider themselves liberal at all.

To assume a political philosophy based on race, is, by definition, racist.

[JayMusgrove]

10. Hey, I am a white male.........I know what I went through

to get my Master's Degree, PhD, never did anyone question my ability to do so based upon my race and gender.

Get over it, hundreds of thousands of white males like me had it easy over the last 50 years...and you are the one assuming political philosophy based upon race, not me... I never said anything about political philosophy, I talked about all the people who never had a decent chance to be leaders if they wanted and worked to be so, and few, (if any), of them were white males.

[AJH032]

11. Yes, you did

randr: "There is not one liberal on this court!"
Jaymusgrove: You got that right! No one is on the court who had a hard time getting money to go to college, to law school, or getting a good job, (except for the ONLY WOMAN!!!!)........"

Your response to randr implies your agreement that there is no liberal on this court because nobody had a "hard time". As I said, that is false logic.

I'm curious, though, what about what I said implies one should assume political philosophy based on race? I actually argued the exact opposite. It's strange you would come to that conclusion.

By the way, I agree that white males have had it easier than others, way easier. That's not what I'm challenging.

[skipos]

12. His logic means Kennedy and FDR weren't liberals. nt

[Runcible Spoon]

18. You have an exceptionally shallow and misguided knowledge of what racism is.

Racism is defined in terms of the structural marginalization and discrimination of people. White people in the US cannot be discriminated against in the context of this argument because they are overrepresented in the institutions in question (justice system, education, workplace management, etc.) and hold the reins of power in said institutions.

I find it pretty offensive that you weaken the significance of the word by throwing it around in such a cavalier manner, in addition to wielding it without actually knowing what it means. This says more about you than it does about the poster you are attempting to attack.

[AJH032]

19. Racism

Racism: The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race.

You're right, one should not wield the word without knowing what it means.

To assume ones political philosophy based on his/her race IS racist, by definition, regardless of which race we are discussing.

[Runcible Spoon]

20. Sorry, your little one line definition is still incorrect.

But feel free to embarrass yourself further. :hi:

Oh, and I'm not buying your strawman misrepresentation of what JayMusgrove was saying: "To assume ones political philosophy based on his/her race IS racist, by definition, regardless of which race we are discussing." :rofl:

Edited to add user's name

[AJH032]

21. ok

Don't buy it. What you think about me does not matter.

But if I ever hear a conservative, or anyone, look at, say, a black man making minimum wage, and say "oh, he MUST be liberal," I would be offended by such a racist remark.