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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:11 PM
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They tortured to justify Iraq war
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:20 PM
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1. Yes, this is the most revealing of facts from the last 8 years
of horrific management of our nation by the Bush folks. THIS and THIS alone should be reason to sentence Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, and all..... to be put to death for treason. (even tho I am against the DP, I will make an exception for these animals) In my opinon.


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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:21 PM
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2. and they failed


Ironically proving that torture doesn't even work to coerce false confessions very well.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:24 PM
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3. I don't get it. I mean, why torture just to force the lie? Telling the lie wasn't enough?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:35 PM
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5. Same reason Soviet "show-trials" were put on: "Proof" for the sick criminals in charge.
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 07:36 PM by WinkyDink
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:24 PM
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4. That's why I can't believe they are bluffing Obama to
release more. Do they think he won't call their bluff?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:36 PM
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6. And what might these torture revelations lead to?
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 07:40 PM by WinkyDink
IMO, Bushco is MOST terrified that tracing the torture time-line to prove that it PRECEDED and therefore WAS SUPPOSED TO BE the raison d'etre for the Illegal Invasion of Iraq will ineluctably lead to September 11 and the Cheney "war-games".
And people might THEN start to suspect that 9/11 wasn't quite the attack we've been told it was.

Just as Nixon knew "Watergate" could uncover deeper crimes against the State.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:40 PM
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7. That is exactly why they revved up the torture rooms at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere
No WMD. No al Qaeda ties. Nothing but time and power.

Despicable.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:41 PM
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8. Evil. Treasonous evil.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:00 PM
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9. YES ! The most treasonous evil leaders the USA has ever
known. History and the legacy for Bush/Cheney....worst leaders of the USA ever, treasonous murderous frauds.
Life in prison with the gangs of Los Angeles or Phoenix, probably the best place for Cheney and Bush and Rummy and Gonzo.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:50 PM
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12. Yup. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:02 PM
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10. As someone noted..what did they do or
didn't do to make sure they had a 9/11?
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:21 PM
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11. Kick
:kick:
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:18 PM
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13. It's ironic.
Because it's the only extrapolation, aside from extreme stupidity and incompetence, that would explain the use of torture.

So the Bushies are either extremely stupid and incompetent, or they're willing to torture to produce lies that they can point to to justify their own lies so that they could enact an illegal war.

All frustrations and facepalming aside... this is just cold logic obvious. The cynicism mushroom cloud is on the horizon...
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