What do you dislike most about DU?

[Number23]

[annabanana]

1. other = polls. . . . n/t

[Number23]

3. And yet you felt compelled to click in this one...

And since you're obviously interested, my personal answer is Option 7. People who use the :eyes: more than twice a day should be banned. That just really grates my cheddar. :)

[thevoiceofreason]

73. My vote too. Polls are so . . . republican

[Number23]

75. Why do people who find polls distasteful click into a thread with "Poll" in the damn title??

Does that make sense to anyone on this board?? Anyone????

[8 track mind]

99. personaly,

i find people who click on other people's polls distasteful but only after they click on said person's poll and then gripe about the other person's poll after the clicking has occured.

Sincerely,

The department of redundancy department.

[Number23]

106. lol yeah, exactly!

:)

[thevoiceofreason]

115. Oh noes. Another rapier-like wit reveals himself/herself.

[Number23]

118. Why do you keep coming in here??

Rapier-like wit? I wasn't being funny. I was truly trying to understand why someone who dislikes polls not only clicks on a thread with "Poll" big as damn day in the title, but spends enough time in the poll that they allegedly despise long enough to read and respond to comments.

You obviously don't have an answer and yet you still keep coming in here. Nothing has changed. It's STILL a poll. So, why don't you do yourself a favor and go find somebody else's thread to go look like a fool in?

[thevoiceofreason]

120. I guess I like you. Really. I really really like you.

And wit is not always funny. It began as a purely academic exercise, humor was not the point. And you are right - you aren't funny.

Wuss. Maybe I don't like you quite so much. But maybe I do.

[Sugarcoated]

123. I was reading down to post my "other" choice

And here it is. I hate it that a substantial number of people come here to start shit with others. Debate is one thing, but some here are so damn quick to snap at another. If you're in a bad mood it's not okay to take it out on other people, internet, phone or in person.

[Number23]

127. ...

:yourock:

Not that I have ANY problems taking care of myself around here, but you just hit the nail on the head. Thanks.

We could spend all day trying to figure out why it seems like some people here don't have a good day until they're pissing off the world, but it's really not interesting or important enough to bother with...

[Sugarcoated]

128. Hey, number23, anytime!

Where's a brushing the dirt off your shoulders emoticon when you need one? :P

[Number23]

132. rofl I love it!

I couldn't find a brush your shoulders off smiley, but I found one raising the roof.

I know it's not anywhere near the same thing, but I'm dedicating it to you anyway! :)

[leftstreet]

2. Why a category for 'meaty' posts but not vegetarian ones?

:cry:

[Number23]

6. You're right! I'm so sorry! Okay, just replace "meaty" with "leafy" in your mind

Mmmm... nice "leafy" responses. :)

[burning rain]

26. LOL, how like a wimpy veg-head to cry so easily!

Gotcha! :hi:

[leftstreet]

29. WIMP?! Listen I KILL vegetables and EAT THEM

THEN I ABSORB THEIR POWERS!



:hi:

[burning rain]

36. Good one! And if you eat an ent....

you might acquire super troll-stompin' action! THAT would come in handy.

[MADem]

4. Your third and fourth choices are just "The." nt

[Number23]

5. I fixed that six times! I don't know why it keeps taking the text out of those options

[Adsos Letter]

8. There is a bitter internecine war raging between....

the "Obama is right"/"Obama is wrong" graphics/template division on DU...waged mostly behind the scenes...

[Number23]

21. Behind the scenes??

Well if the foolishness I've seen lately is indicative of what's going on BEHIND the scenes, God save us all from what's in front of them...

[MADem]

10. Do you have this "[" sort of bracket around your entry?

Everything between those kinds of brackets disappears.....

[RC]

7. My opening post usually die alone, with few responses.

Example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5391660&mesg_id=5391660

[Number23]

11. I just went and kicked your post

I know how it is to have a post die a quick death around here. In fact, I think most of us do! :)

[MADem]

39. You need to work on your sales technique.

Had your subject line read

Subject: This is freaking OUTRAGEOUS!!!!! "Arrest Was Not Justified"

I'm betting that your responses would have quadrupled--at a MINIMUM.

Maybe you should repost, give it a try!

[Number23]

44. You speak the (sad, painful) truth!!

Change "freaking" to "f*cking" and it would be SEXTUPLED (is that a word?)!!

[MADem]

46. Ooooh!!! And if you put SEXTUPLED in the subject line, people would think it was a SEX thread

and they'd hurry like hell to get IN BEFORE THE LOCK!!!


:rofl:

[rpannier]

131. Don't feel bad

The better ones usually do

[TahitiNut]

9. The fucking REDUNDANCY.

:grr:

[Number23]

12. Mmmm hmmm. Like nails on a chalkboard...

[Muttocracy]

16. actually, yeah, I often wish identical threads had to be combined

or there was a posting delay or something.

[Posteritatis]

17. Hell with that, it's the repetitiveness that gets my goat! (nt)

[Number23]

23. lol That's too funny

[burning rain]

13. The fairly widespread the-hell-with-Obama,....

the-hell-with-Democrats, they're-just-a-bunch-of-corporate-sell-outs sentiment. As though we didn't get a nasty lesson in the fruits of that kind of thinking in a big way, as recently as 2000, with the Gore - Nader fracas, and reap a shamelessly plutocratic and warmongering administration partly as a result. And, we could have had McCain in the White House to launch a ruinous war of aggression against Iran, had similar voices prevailed in 2008. Pressuring Democrats to go far enough is one thing, allowing Republicans to win, another.

[NavyDavy]

14. ain't that the truth....

[CBR]

15. Obama is feeling heat from the left (as seen on DU),

the center (Bayh et. al.) and the wingnut conservatives (socialist, muslin and all that). To me that is a good thing and means he is doing something right. Pressure from all sides.

[Fire1]

124. Heat? Pressure? Where? From Who? Does he even

read DU? I hope he feels some pressure when congress reconvenes, as a result of AFL-CIO grassroot efforts around the country.

[TheBigotBasher]

168. I personally think that the real moderates are not getting enough say

Right wing Republican voting Democrats (Bayh etc) are hitting programmes that Obama was clearly elected to deliver on. The weakest of AMerica do not have lobbyists, they do not have the ears of Senators or Representatives, they do not even have the ears of City Council Members. Yet Republican voting Democratic Senators have watered down make work pay, cut back on welfare programmes included in the recovery package, will probably weaken universal health care and do not recognise that it is these programmes Republicans want to fail as if they fail to get delivered the Democrats lose.

[creeksneakers2]

74. Right on!

Most likely faction to attack someone for disagreeing too.

[Arkana]

18. The color scheme.

[bunkerbuster1]

19. I don't really dislike anything about DU

It becomes what it becomes. I can take it or leave it anytime.

[stray cat]

20. Intense opinionated posts based solely on self righteous attitudes and ignorance

with no real insight of any sort.

[Number23]

22. Dagnabbit! I should have added another category...

OP's that say in their entirety - "Oh my God! Did you just hear what ____ (whoever) said on ___ (whatever channel)??! I hate that bastard!!one!"

No information. No context. Not even a paraphrase. Just "Did you hear what s/he said??!" and that't it.

I have one word for people who create OPs like this - grrrrr....:mad:

[Uben]

24. I voted "other"

I hate the fact that so many have changed their names! I don't know who anyone is anymore! Snakes!

[Career Prole]

25. The Hate Mailbag

is so old the letters have stamps on 'em.
:evilgrin:

[Number23]

32. Some of my best chuckles from this site were from reading the Mailbag

:)

[Career Prole]

60. I dunno what happened.

I guess the freepers are diggin' us now?

[Number23]

62. Perish the thought! Never in a million, billion years!!

[Career Prole]

68. Good.

If it weren't for freeper hate there wouldn't be anything left to laugh about in the whole wide world!
:toast:

[elocs]

27. I'll have to go with the silly OPs.

I have had what I believed were well thought out and intelligent OPs that went absolutely nowhere, but have posted something that was fluff that got lots of responses. I would also add that there are posters here whose reputations will get them at least 50 Recs if they just say "hi".

[Number23]

30. That's been a complaint I've seen over and over again here. Fluff sells!

I would also add that there are posters here whose reputations will get them at least 50 Recs if they just say "hi".

I simply could NOT agree more. There are so many talented writers and so many good people here that this type of thing honestly makes no sense to me. That and Appreciation Threads. I just don't get them...

[WorseBeforeBetter]

35. As do overrated rants that ALWAYS make it to the Greatest Page.

They annoy the hell out of me ... I may actually start using the Ignore function on the prime offender.

[Reterr]

79. "are posters here whose reputations will get them at least 50 Recs if they just say "hi"."

Bingo.

And unless you are an integral part of the DU community (i.e. post here 24/7 all the time) you really aren't going to find them particularly funny, cleverly satirical or anything :shrug:. That sounds harsh but you really have to lead a fairly sheltered life to find some of it as cutting or insightful as people here seem to.


I can think of one poster who writes satire I guess, where it is pretty much the same thing every single time but it always gets 5 recs in a minute. I mean it isn't that it is bad stuff. It is just kinda..I don't know blah, self-plagiarizing/repetitive. What is worse about this poster is they appear to poach other people's funny or clever posts (seen that happen just today) and post them as their own. And of course it got 20 recs in about 15s.

[ginnyinWI]

28. The general pettiness around here. And the judgementalism.

1. Not quite the choice about the meaty threads, but close. People get all hung up on stupid little stuff and also rush to judgement.

2. They have a liberal litmus test and when a politician fails on any point, they get flamed big time with little or no consideration for circumstance or nuance.

[Number23]

31. Sounds like you would have gone with options 2,3,4 and 5 if you could have

And maybe even option 8 too...

[Liberalalltheway]

33. I hate people thinking I'm a republican just becuz I'm new

Honestly, WTF?

[Jackeens]

37. They did that to firefox28 too

:shrug:

[MADem]

40. They do it to me because I'm not "left" enough on every single frigging issue.

It doesn't matter if I stand well on the left regarding social issues, if I don't think we're ready to turn the DOD into the Hearts and Flowers Club and want my hunting brother in law to be able to keep his gun so he can feed his family, I'm in cahoots with the far right.

[firedupdem]

81. and both of them are gone now!

:rofl:

Thank Goodness!

[Number23]

38. When I started, a few folks tried to get all "tough guy" on me because I didn't have 6000 posts

But they were by FAR in the minority. I think it's because it's obvious I'm not a Republican so I never said anything that could even be mildly construed as Repub-esque. I am not a Democrat either, I'm a Dem-leaning indie, so I think my lack of fanatical fervor made some folks question me when I first started. Shoot, some may still question me now, but who gives a sh*t??

My complaint when I first got here was that there was a very small few here who just discounted the opinions of newbies, which I think is unfair. However, if folks are thinking you're a Republican, well, I'm not quite sure what to say about that...

[Jackeens]

41. LOL, my first ever post was critical of Obama....

...that might be hard to believe now that I'm a hero-worshiper! :-)

But it was funny, I got a stream of abusive PMs....I understand why now, I'm guessing at least a dozen Freepers sign up every day??

Like firefox28 who registered twice and was banned twice in the last three days ;)

[Number23]

43. I don't believe it. Link please!

:)

[Jackeens]

45. I know, BIZARRE!!!!!! If only they knew then that....

...I'd turn in to this :blush:

I'd dig out that post if I knew how, but the DU search function has got the better of me. Help? All I can find are, um, photo threads....

:shrug:

[Number23]

48. lol Girl, you are a trip!

Your profile says that you became a member in August of last year. I did a search in GD-P and GD for "Jackeens" and it turned up no results! Do you remember which forum you posted your, ahem... "criticism"?? :)

P.S. You should know that I am LOVING this by the way! :rofl:

[Jackeens]

52. Ah, I'm the artist formerly known as....

...Jackeens_for_Obama, but even a search of my pre-marketing-rehaul name doesn't go back to August 2008. It was definitely in GD : P, I suggested the now President needed to inject a bit more passion in to his speeches/interviews. Seriously. People who I now regard as my beloved children/puppies (ie much love) suggested I was a **** **** ****ing **** ** * **** ****, which I didn't take as a compliment.

[MADem]

63. PMs.....Jesus. That's pretty hard-core. Are any of those people still here?

Obama wasn't my first choice, either. But I've gotten past that. I think he's doing pretty well, actually. He did a great job on this overseas trip, I thought.

[HughMoran]

119. I also criticized the heck out of him

I used to use the term Obamabot back when I was supporting Hillary during the primaries. Times changed & I ended up going to one of his rallies & was sold on his capabilities.

[AZBlue]

110. Unfortunately it happens to a lot of us - but you can alert on them.

It is against the rules to call out someone as a new person and point out low posts. It's also against the rules to call someone a Republican.

[GoCubsGo]

34. Other...

Not being able to post to the "Groups" if you are not a donor. Wish I could donate, but I got laid off two years ago. Nothing but a couple of temp jobs between then and now, and the mortgage and bills have priority.

[Number23]

42. I'm sorry to hear about that. Alot of stuff about the Groups section is weird

My favorite is the African American Interest Group. One of my favorite places on this whole damn site, just wish it had greater participation. *cough** *blackfolkspleasepostthere* **cough** http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=258 :)

But you can't rec any of the stuff in the groups! Some of the stuff posted in the Groups is great, but I guess the fear is that the Greatest Page would be littered with people's pet issues and interests. It's a shame because people really kind of let their hair down in the Groups and alot of the stuff there is worth reading.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. People pouncing with quick trash on an idea - offering no intellectual

ideas whatsoever - just either trashing the poster or killing the messenger. Made me not even want to post anything anymore. If you look at other sites like this - people do not do that. there is an idea and people intellegently debate it. No like here - idea, three word trash, three word trash.

[Number23]

53. Yep. And isn't it funny that it's often the first response in the thread??

[Laura PourMeADrink]

133. Yes ! Putting my tinfoil hat on, during the elections, I SWEAR

there were a dozen people who would instantly respond with negativity. It was like they had a device that went "ding, ding, ding" whenever a post came up. Typically, it was whenever someone said anything remotely negative about the Obama campaign. You couldn't even discuss the pros and cons of anything without getting slammed. Like a censorship - so overwhelmingly belittled you gave up trying to discuss things intelligently from all angles. I like to think there wasn't an orchestrate effort going on -- but it was just too prevalent and too instantaneously for there not to have been.

I haven't spent much time here lately - but I bet the same thing is happening now. My thought -- free speech ! And it's good to question and debate things. It doesn't mean you don't think he's the greatest president we've known.

[Political Heretic]

49. It's a virtual tie between #5 and #6

[Number23]

51. I can understand that. I have no use for cliques or people in them

I've often found that people who are drawn to cliques are usually the most intellectually challenged, insecure people around. And the cliques on DU, and Lord knows there are a few, certainly help bolster that perception.

[Danger Mouse]

50. Other - Groupthink.

[ErinBerin84]

54. .

delete...this is supposed to be in the Morning Joe thread, not sure how it ended up here, heh.

[Catchawave]

55. Those "Kick and Rec" threads if you like/love/agree with the poster...

IMHO. :toast:

[Jackeens]

56. Kick and Rec

:yoiks:

[Number23]

57. Yeah. Should have added that one right underneath Appreciation Threads...

Lots of people hate those Kick and Rec threads...

[Catchawave]

59. I thought it was this....

"That silly OPs get hundreds of responses and meaty posts die with less than a whimper"

I'm more used to those K&R if you're drunk threads in the Lounge :)

[Number23]

61. That's true. KnR threads could definitely be added to Option 5

And people talk so badly about the Lounge on this site, I'm sure that a bunch of folks feel that every post there could go in that Option. Or maybe even option 6...

[pipi_k]

105. Indeed

In fact, I often won't bother reading the "Please K & R this if..." threads.

If I do happen to read one that hasn't specifically asked for a K & R in the title but does in the body, I purposely will not rec.

The way I see it, threads that truly deserve to be K & R'd don't have to ASK for it. They're just good enough all on their own.


Yeah, I'm nasty that way


;)

[Jim Sagle]

58. I/P.

[PBS Poll-435]

64. TV Twittering

One sentence posts like: "OMG!!1! Did you see Mika's nosehair?"

Or:

"Uncle Pat looks constipated!!11"

[Number23]

66. rofl See post 22

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8321317#8321457

P.S. Exactly when has Pat Buchanon NOT looked constipated anyway??

[PBS Poll-435]

80. St. Pat's weekend

He looked better.


:P

[QC]

65. Too much like high school sometimes--bullies and cheerleaders everywhere! n/t

[Number23]

70. Well, I was neither in high school

I was the nerdy but cute as hell girl that only got hit on by the boys when their friends weren't looking floating blissfully through high school on an intoxicating (but highly confusing to my mother) cloud of Public Enemy, Greek mythology and Harlequin Teen Romance novels.

I listened to NWA by day and drifted off to sleep reading my Time Life "Mysteries of the Unknown" book collection. At our graduation, the star of our basketball team gave me a kiss and grabbed my butt. Said he'd been wanting to for ages... :blush:

*sigh* Wait, what were we talking about??

[QC]

78. I was the bookish loner. Life didn't actually begn until college.

College was fun, though, enough to make up for high school being such a bummer.

[Raine]

67. Self-righteousness

sometimes shown by some posters. :-(

[high density]

69. The people voting for the "Obama can do no wrong people" item in this poll.

[NatBurner]

71. a few things

the racism deniers and apologists that refuse to call a spade a spade (so to speak) and will argue with you till they're blue in the fingers becuz they personally haven't heard of a particular insult

the hyper-pc crowd that will ignore the content of an entire post and literally focus on the ONE WORD they don't like, and proceepd to piss and moan about it for hours at a time :/

the passive-aggressive obama critics that like to throw stones, then hide their hands. we see your ass, and you're not fooling anybody

[Number23]

72. Damn straight, Nat

And please see post #42 in this thread.

the passive-aggressive obama critics that like to throw stones, then hide their hands. we see your ass, and you're not fooling anybody

TRUTH.

[NatBurner]

102. whoa

i didn't even know that board existed

best believe i'll be spending some quality time there from here on out

thx for the heads up

[CakeGrrl]

159. +1 to all of this. n/t

[On the Road]

76. Well, Well, Well,

THAT is an interesting set of results.

Looks like we've got a silent majority goin' on here.

[Number23]

89. Yep! That poll displays a very clear and plain majority.

[Forkboy]

77. The way DU reduces everything and everyone to love/hate, either/or binary thinking.

If you say something good about Obama you love him and are a moronic cheerleader. If you say something negative about Obama you're a hater and a freeper. And we do that with everyone. The Krugman/Obama stuff is a crystal clear example of what I'm talking about, and it's far from the only one.

Remember when Kerry ran? We got nuance in '04...what happened to us since then?

[PBS Poll-435]

82. Obama > Krugman

:-)

[Norrin Radd]

83. Nail on the head.

[iamthebandfanman]

86. thats become the arguement

on every issue on du.


its fine to have issues you totally and completely agree with obama on, and its totally fine to have issues you dont agree with...


i dont see the big deal with having those stances,

but the reality of it is , people on du have to big of egos to rationally or calmly discuss things...

people hafta puff out their chests or check on their penis sizes....as if they have something to prove on an internet discussion board.

im sure ive been guilty of it too at times.

you cant let yourselves get so darn upset and angry about things on this forum. its a forum.

its easy to act that way, when put in a non-face to face interaction.

kinda funny that some who are probably the most passive and/or non-aggressive in actuality in every day iife, are probably some of the most aggressive and vicious when put into the realm of the internet...

thats what makes the internet so interesting...the ability to re-create with little effort.

[Number23]

90. Yep. As an independent, I've have to agree that what you've mentioned is a real problem here

I'm neither conservative nor liberal so the "Obama has let us down crowd" does nothing for me and neither does the "Obama is the best president this country has ever had two damn months into his term" crowd.

Personally, I'd like both groups to chill the f*ck out but I already know that's not going to happen...

[TorchTheWitch]

91. Absolutely... but it isn't most posters

There really aren't that many posters like that, and if you get rid of the ones that are with the ignore function most of that shit goes away. Lately there's been a lot more like that since the primaries, but it isn't the majority of posters. If that binary thinking crowd is your biggest issue with DU you can get rid of most of it and make it a much better place for yourself.

There are so many options here that allow people to tailor their own experience, but instead it seems that most people don't use those functions or use them enough and opt instead to perpetuate what they dislike the most by engaging with people that bug them, clicking on threads with idiot titles, not alerting on problem posters, etc.

However, I do see a difference now in how this place is moderated. Much more general meanness and personal attacks are here than it used to be. I don't know if that's because people don't bother to alert anymore or if it's moderators slacking off, or what. In any other forum I've ever been to (some of them quite heated) that sort of thing wasn't allowed. Either threads that got out of hand were closed and/or problem posters got banned. I see many people here that are still allowed to stay even though most of what they post is obnoxious. I think far too much emphasis is put on posters that have been here a long time and racked up mega amounts of posts in whether or not they get booted... there are quite a few people who are frequent long time posters that don't get booted when they're more disruptive and obnoxious than newer posters that do get booted. Again, I don't know if that's because it's the newer posters that tend to be alerted on or what.

[redqueen]

94. Some kind of perception issue.

I don't notice anyone saying "don't criticize Obama at all, ever" but others seem to see it all the time.

I see "fuck Obama" "Obama loves bankers and hates workers" "I want to destroy the Democratic party" posts, but others seem to never see such things.

[QC]

116. Krugman is an enemy of the people. n/t

[spoony]

138. I thought that should have won the T-shirt contest

;)

[HughMoran]

121. Lol - I was just thinking that

The first time through the thread I posted above and moved on, then it popped up again and realized that the whole "us" versus "them" thing is so entirely idiotic. I hate to call DU childish as nobody wants to admit that, but we have been acting rather childish as of late. Just to prove my point, it won't be 5 minutes after I post this that someone will post "you mean YOU are childish". :rofl: Happens every time and the poster won't care that it makes my point in spades (or will do it just for fun as will happen now that I've mentioned this.)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

148. well said. nt

[tkmorris]

84. Other

I think the biggest problem is one that members of each of the categories you define above exhibit all too often. A simple, basic, lack of manners. Yeah I know all of the reasons for it: the anonymity of the internet and so on, but the fact remains that it takes but one dedicated asshole to turn a whole forum on it's head. When you have 30, 50, or 100 people snarling and putting each other down at the merest hint of a disagreement, real or imagined, you get what DU General and GD:P look like right now, and have since about January 2008 more or less.

There are people like this in every category or clique here you could care to name. Centrists, Liberals, prior members of the Obama and Clinton camps (and a few holdovers from the Edwards or Kucinich camps among others), gun-grabbers, gun toters, conspiracy theorists and so called "reality-based" posters, newbs, old-timers, climate change activists, deniers of climate change, capitalists, socialists, Chavez supporters, Chavez haters, and so on. I could do this all day, unlike the Sham-wow guy.

It's very hard to moderate manners, there is no question of that, but I sometimes wonder if we haven't reached the point where it would be better to try at least. I realize that can be difficult as people often are quite passionate about their political ideals, but much of what I observe isn't people getting heated up about a pet topic, it's just people being jackasses because they CAN. They take pride in it. They rile other people up on purpose, and will often tell you they are doing so, merely so they can sit back and watch the fireworks. They act smug and superior and so damned certain they are correct about everything that it amuses them when others get angry at their derisive commentary.

You know who these people are if you've been here more than a few months. We all do. We can't name them publicly of course, and that is a good thing in the main, but we all know. You know, that guy who, if you disagree with him, asserts that the reason for you doing so is because you have "the reading comprehension of a lump of moldy cheese", or that woman who upon reading your comments tells you to "go take another bong hit and leave the discussion to the grown-ups Sweetie". There is no place on a serious discussion board for tripe like that, and on it's better days that is something that DU can at least appear to be aspiring to . The question is, do we want it to be?

[Number23]

88. You speak the truth!

A simple, basic, lack of manners. Yep!

it's just people being jackasses because they CAN. Absolutely.

What a great post. And you're right, we ALL know those smug, sneering or just plain nasty as hell types here who ain't happy unless EVERYBODY around them is miserable...

[NYC_SKP]

169. True, but the genius of the creators of DU is evident in these features:

"Hide thread", "Ignore", and a few others.

For example, I sort by start time, thus letting flame wars sink.

I know of no other discussion board that offers these features and this is the best board, by far, IMHO.

Given the choice between trying to regulate the offensive behaviors mentioned in your reply and providing features to allow users to modify, I'll go with the latter.

NYC_SKP

[iamthebandfanman]

85. polls that help foster rifts in the community. n/t

[Number23]

87. lol If I hadn't already maligned the eye rolley smiley, you'd be getting it right now

:rofl:

[dbt]

92. Other: The Double Standards.

Some posters here are immediately brought up short, warned, have messages deleted and/or get tombstoned for the slightest infraction of The Rules, while others are allowed to break these Rules with impunity for years.

[Number23]

114. Yep. Post #91 complements your post nicely. I think this issue is a deal-breaker

for many posters here. It may need to be officially addressed by the Powers that Be.

[Milspec]

93. It seems to be full of liberals

tee hee

[Sky Masterson]

95. The assumption that every Newbie is a troll

And that criticism of a point of view or a post is a personal attack.

[Jennicut]

104. We all started out as Newbies. The ones that are Freepers are obvious.

[Libby2]

96. All of the above, except Newbies. n/t

[ErinBerin84]

97. use of hyperbole

that can really undermine the poster's actual point. General lack of respect for others...people who post the same article that has been posted like three times already.

[madmom]

98. That there are posters who think they can come here and legislate what can

and cannot be posted.(except for the things that are expressly forbidden by the rules)If you don't want to hear/read it don't click on it!

[Number23]

107. Amen, madmom!

Amen!

[Demi_Babe]

100. the lack of unity

[Number23]

108. Well I have to say, I take great pride in that this OP has over 100 responses

And not ONE, not a SINGLE ONE had to be deleted!!! If that's not a sign of SOME unity, I don't know what is...

Way to go, DU!!! Now this is how grown-ups handle things. :)

[MilesColtrane]

101. Other

I can't stand the Recommend Whores.

[AtomicKitten]

103. How anxious people are to post negative unsourced bullshit.

It seems to be their raison d'etre.

[firedupdem]

109. Agree. n/t

[ohheckyeah]

111. All of the polls. n/t

[polichick]

112. The thought-police who freak out when supporters express dissent...

They out-Bushie and Bushies.

[cliffordu]

113. Cliffordu

[baldguy]

117. People that spout RW propaganda as if it were the gospel truth

Then whine when you point it out to them.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

122. I'm in with "Other"

Have to agree the bad manners displays are juvenile and annoying. Believe me, I am no prima donna, but I feel the swearing gets way over the top too often. Most of us communicate well enough without having to resort to "OMFG." As far as President Obama, this is a big enough forum that some of us think he's all wrong, others think he's just what we need and with all the variations in between. Sounds about right to me. This is a pretty good website after all.

[Eric Condon]

125. The way some of DU reacted to the Edwards affair

That was the incident that very nearly made me swear off ever coming to DU again. It seemed like DU was buying into all the standard M$M lines about how much of a disgrace it was, etc. "I can't trust him anymore," "he misled all of us," blah blah blah, and meanwhile, cheering on Bill Clinton's speech at the DNC a couple weeks later. Sure, what he did was wrong, but the way that Edwards has been seemingly blackballed around here since then has really bothered me. I expect this kind of crap from the sheeple who think they can judge the "honesty" of a politician by their very human personal foibles, but from the advanced minds here at DU, I'd expect a little nuance on this issue, some acknowledgment of his leadership on issues that no other major Dems seem to want to touch.

In general, this kind of hypocrisy, double standards, and self-righteous holier-than-thou bullshit is a real turn-off a lot of the time. But I always come back.

[Awsi Dooger]

126. I'd probably say cats

I don't like cats.

And some years there are more elections than others.

[BlooInBloo]

129. Looks like that question is pretty well answered. (snicker)

[rpannier]

130. Along with silly posts...One's that ask us to recommend their post

I consider most of those to be silly.
Asking for them is kinda like laughing at your own jokes (IMO)

Also, the coffee in the Lounge is too damned expensive

[LeftishBrit]

134. Other...

that there are a very few people prepared to quote/accept the views of right-wing people and sites if these are negative about Bush, the war, or the Establishment. I can understand it when it's British newspapers like the Daily Hate-Mail and Torygraph, because Americans may not realize what they're like. But sadly, it was DU that introduced me to WhatReally(Never)Happened and WakeUpFromYourSlumber, not to mention a few Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul quotes on occasion.

Not common, but the question was 'what I like least here'.

[Uncle Joe]

135. I believe D.U. is cool, my only suggestion would be to extend the time limitation

on recommending threads, sometimes I miss some good ones, until it's too late.

[politicasista]

136. People who complain about the MSM, yet

turn around and buy into everything they fabricate and accept anything said about their not so favorite politician as Gospel (i.e. If CNN, MSNBC or Faux said it about ______, it must be true).

[Number23]

139. Yes!! I should have added that to my list

Girl, someone should write a book about this bizarre phenomena. "People who hate cable television but watch it CONSTANTLY: Psychosis or Boredom?"

And Sista, please see post #42 in this thread! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8321317#8321596

:)

[politicasista]

140. Thanks

:hi:

[Massacure]

137. Skinner, EarlG, and Elad

:D

[EstimatedProphet]

141. You forgot to add the All Of The Above option

[Number23]

146. Darn it, you're right!

A few people have hinted that option would have gotten their vote.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

142. Bigoted jerks with seemingly impenetrable anti-tombstone force fields. -nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

149. brilliant. nt

[derby378]

143. I'm just happy that "derby378" isn't a poll choice

I know I sometimes rub a few DUers the wrong way, but this place is still my online home. Love ya, guys. :hug:

[slackmaster]

144. The tendency of some users to make snap judgements and join bandwagons

Based on flimsy data.

[Raffi Ella]

145. The Obama can do no right crowds.

I mean seriously, I've been here since Summer of '04. I was too intimidated to even think of joining then, I was just massively uninformed - but I couldn't get enough of reading this place. A year later I felt confident enough to join in the conversation.

I ranted and raved and signed petitions and marched and was in a constant state of outrage and fury and fright over bush Co.

so. Now? EVEN when we win! even when we win there is STILL all the same outrage here just as there was 4 or 5 years ago. I think a lot of people here are addicted to the drama of it all - I'm not.

I am ECSTATIC! I LOVE OBAMA! BIDEN! HILLARY! and am loving what is happening in my Country and around the world BECAUSE of OBama! and this is coming from a Die Hard Hillary Supporter that wasn't even going to vote if Obama won the primary, lol.

I don't even really need D.U. anymore to be honest. I'm too happy for this place. ha! nah, really I love D.U. warts and all. I somehow made it through the primaries without being banned and am pretty proud of that as most Hillary supporter's were; I think that in itself tells you how much this place means to me.

there is no place like it anywhere else on the net. I'm just good at ignoring the parts I don't like :)

[Vanje]

147. Shit like this nt

[Number23]

163. Thanks for the kick anyway!

Without your help, the over 400 responses this poll has gotten would not have been possible...

Or would it...?????

[Kaleko]

150. The cognitive dissonance it creates when new information about 9/11

and other cutting edge, explorative topics is banished to a sub-forum where bullies are allowed to run rampant and kill any chance at a fruitful conversation.

That, to me, is a sign of double standards unbecoming to "progressive" DU.

[Juche]

167. I agree

In all honesty I bet this issue is one of the biggest objection many of us have to DU, but very few are willing to admit it.

Agree or disagree with 9/11, but at least let people talk intelligently about the issue in public using evidence. That never happens. It is banished to the forum where it decends into shouting matches and people who abusively say things that a good deal of the time aren't even debates, just strawman arguments.

[Name removed]

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[Norrin Radd]

152. Other: people who decry heated discussion or conflict.

A message board would be dull, otherwise.

[Hekate]

153. Airline threads about teh fatness. No recognition that the industry made a business decision...

... to compromise passengers' health as well as comfort under the guise of lowering prices.

Hekate

[JNelson6563]

154. Lounge fodder not in the lounge

Believe it or not back in the day all vanity posts and personal news stuff went in the lounge. A close second is how DU now mirros the coporate media in beating shit to death. I have not heard one word of Susan Boyle in the real world yet there are countless threads about her on DU. Really sad.

Julie

[Number23]

164. I always crack up at the comments across DU about the Lounge

[Orsino]

157. The pigeonholing. n/t

[InvisibleTouch]

158. The eating of our own...

...which takes the "Obama can do no right" crowd and expands it to Dems in general. We won't always agree with what our President and our elected reps do, but to outright attack them is counterproductive and weakens our entire cause.

[Name removed]

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[abq e streeter]

161. My self-censoring when I feel like posting a non "conventional-wisdom" opinion

and am too sensitive (and at a particularly shaky and vulnerable place in my life these days) to want to deal with what I've learned from experience will be at least a few nasty and personally insulting replies. I hate myself for being gutless like that, but its the truth.

[Juche]

165. The censorship of discussions about 9/11

And the people who try to bully everyone into silence using harassment and willful ignorance whenever issues like it come up.

[Kaleko]

166. See my post at # 150.

:7

[Occam Bandage]

170. Censorship? There's an entire forum dedicated to nothing but. In fact,

for that forum, they've even gone so far as to lift the DU-wide ban on speculative conspiracy theories. 9/11 is the least censored topic on DU; you simply can't post garbage conspiracy theories about anything else and expect to have them stand.

[21st century fox]

171. Question for you, Mr./Ms. Pollster:

Why would newbies even be an option? This is what I don't get--why should someone who is new get treated like crap? It goes back to one of your other options: the clique mentality.