Zogby to say approval rating drops to 50-50? wtf?

[masuki bance]

The honeymoon is over, a national poll will signal tomorrow as President Obama’s job approval stumbles to about 50 percent over the lack of improvement with the crippled economy.

The sobering numbers come as the president backpedals from two prime-time gaffes - one comparing his bowling score to a Special Olympian and another awkwardly laughing about the economy, which prompted Steve Kroft of “60 Minutes” to ask “are you punch-drunk?”

Pollster John Zogby said his poll out in the morning will show Americans split on the president’s performance. He said the score factors out to “about 50-50.”

Some polls show Obama coasting with a 65 percent job approval, but not in Zogby’s tally.

“The numbers are going down,” Zogby told the Herald. “It’s not because of the gaffes, but a combination of high expectations and that things aren’t moving fast enough with the economy.”

Zogby said any stumbling does serve as “red-meat fodder” for administration antagonists.

As for the president’s love of the limelight, it could backfire, according to a media watcher.

“I thought he overexposed himself weeks ago,” said Tobe Berkovitz, associate dean of Boston University’s College of Communication.

“I wonder when the public will say ‘Instead of being in front of the camera, be in front of a spreadsheet.’ ”

The president is scheduled to hold his second solo prime-time press conference tomorrow night at 8.

Has to be an outlier, Gallup has him at 65%. Rasmussen and Zogby are in a race to the bottom.


edit to add that there is a poll at the link that needs your help.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2009_03_23_Poll_of_change:_Obama_s_job_approval_slipping_to_%E2%80%9850-50_/srvc=home&position=recent

[FrenchieCat]

1. Eek! Zogby is back, just in time for the Budget!

:woohoo:

[JI7]

2. Zogby is looking to get attention again, don't people have to pay

for some of his polls ? maybe he had a decrease in that with the elections being over.

[Whalestoe]

3. Zogby cooked up this poll so the MSM could run with a story for a few days.

Utter bullshit.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

4. GOOD OLD ZOG IS AN AIPAC DEEP COVER AGENT

[Aloha Spirit]

5. Ha, I hope it was one of his internet polls.

Those are so unpredictable!
NOT!!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. Zogby should give up

[Clio the Leo]

7. It doesn't matter, as long as we take Ohio!

Or was it Pennsylvania?

Screw that! I want it all!!!! I want Florida! I want Indiana!!! I WANT NORTH CAROLINA!!!!!!!!!

:woohoo:

(that was fun)

[CreekDog]

8. Zogby, what an ass

my poll has as much credibility. :wtf:

[Thrill]

9. Typical Bullshit Zogby Poll. And the conservative Boston Herald with a biased article

[Uzybone]

10. Well Rasmussen says 56%, Zogby is just as credible

so its really around 62%

[Honeycombe8]

11. Interesting I didn't get an electronic invitation to poll from Zogby. I usu. get those.

Including the one where I said who I voted for.

Makes me wonder...did he poll those who said they voted for someone other than O?

[dave_p]

12. oh well

In the sharpest GOP-made hell-recession since the 20s? Cool, I can live with that. Plenty of time till anyone needs to worry.

[CAG]

13. Did W know what a spreadsheet was????

[Yavin4]

14. Hey, Don't Knock Polls

Joe Scarborough is still clinging to his Sept. 2008 Mason/Dixon poll.

[liskddksil]

15. Remember the night about a week before the election

when we all panicked because a Zogby poll had us tied.

[Drunken Irishman]

29. And the daily results had McCain up 1 and Drudge ran a huge headline...

And we all thought, "OMFGGGGG"

[liskddksil]

32. ahhh memories..

[Political Heretic]

16. BULL SHIT. NO ONE DROPS 15 POINTS IN A WEEK.

[Political Heretic]

18. PS - RCP average is 61.2 currently. I can't see this poll being anything but an outlier

[PM Martin]

17. Is he a Republican?

His poll is out of line with all others.

[Jennicut]

19. SHOCK POLL!! The man has no credibility.

After the debacle of his election polls I think everyone gets it.

[asphalt.jungle]

30. wasn't he the one hired to do that ridiculous polling for the palin doc?

the creator of the doc was some clown who was cussing out nate silver when called on their bullshit. all wingnut hacks know where to go when it comes to getting polling data to serve a particular agenda.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

33. Good memory. Yes, he did the push poll for John Ziegler of HowObamaGotElected.com

[ArchieStone1]

20. Breaking: CBS News poll has Obama at 64%

Poll released today:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/23/opinion/polls/main4886328.shtml?tag=topStory;topStoryHeadline

[Political Heretic]

22. What the hell is up with Zogby?

[Drunken Irishman]

25. It's called getting your name out there.

If you show a poll different from the rest, you're more likely to get more of a response for it.

[Thrill]

21. This overexposure crap reeks of jealousy. Why are the ratings so high for his appearances

if people don't want to hear or see him?

[Uzybone]

24. It is "he is a celebrity" part deux

Being popular is a bad thing.

[Cha]

40. CorporatemediaWhores don't want Obama

to come out and answer to the American People..they just want to spew lies about him so ..what can they say to make him stop?

"He's being overexposed":silly: any idiot can see through that.

[amborin]

23. i do agree Obama is on too many media shows, etc, not

helping the public see him as seriously working on the econ mess, etc

[Jennicut]

28. Nice Repub talking point. Should our President not seem accessible?

He works late nights. The man is working extremely hard. He can do many things at once. He does not want to be in the bubble 24/7.

[amborin]

31. not a rethug talking point at all

and not saying he's not working hard

saying, rather, that he's not presenting the image or appearance of working hard

big difference

and, please, not so much black/white thinking

there's a huge difference between being "in a bubble" and making too many media appearances

serious discussion in serious forums and "fireside chat" type tv appearances are great....too much Leno, etc....not so great

[Jennicut]

35. Well most people think his "image" is just fine.

[NYC Liberal]

47. He went on Leno *once*! What other "fluff" shows has he been on?

He was on 60 Minutes on Sunday.

He has an approval in the high 60s.

"not presenting the image or appearance of working hard"

That's your opinion, not the opinion of the vast majority of people in this country.

[Danger Mouse]

26. Is anybody fucking surprised? It's Zomby, back for more brains.

[Egnever]

27. wouldnt suprise me a bit

After all everywhere I look there's someone trying to bring that number down.

[LittleBlue]

34. I would have expected people to give Obama longer than 2 months

before dragging his approval numbers down.

If he really pissed people off with the bonus thing, then I could see it, but so far I don't think it's this bad.

[rvablue]

36. Read up. Don't listen to Zogby. He's a right wing tool. n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

37. The only thing down is Zogby's credibility.

[SunsetDreams]

42. Why would you expect that?

you sure haven't.

[Binka]

54. Indeed! Glad it isn't just me noticing that.

Hi Okie how ya doing? :hi:

[The_Casual_Observer]

38. Media is out for a new angle on Obama. Narrative is that he is

rapidly losing popularity & all this exposure is making it worse. Expect the question of the day to be "Are people bored with Obama"?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

39. I guess that THIS is the poll they've been looking for?

:eyes:

Mission accomplished?

[WeDidIt]

41. Zogby was the absolute WORST pollster in 2008

why the fuck will anybody eblieve his stupid ass now?

Oh, yeah, I forgot. The MSM is looking for anything critical of Obama.

Edited to add: And the Boston Herald is a right wing rag.

[Overseas]

43. Luckily, Nate Silver studied this new poll last night and has weighed in

See the earlier thread with clips of his review:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8287385

[mgcgulfcoast]

44. zogby was awful with election polls

dont pay any attention to this.

[ShadowLiberal]

45. 538 has a great article on just how bad & unreliable Zogby polls tend to be

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/03/worst-pollster-in-world-strikes-again.html

[backscatter712]

53. In short, Zogby did an Internet poll instead of a random-sampled phone poll...

and it got Freeped.

Statistical integrity? Whazzat?

[TheKentuckian]

46. Zogby=on ignore

nt

[WeDidIt]

48. This is actually a good thing!

The Freepers are going nuts over this.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2213144/posts

It's like how they went nuts over Zogby during the General Election, too:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2121384/posts

[budkin]

49. Zogby is the definition of FAIL.

He needs to hang up his shoes and call it a career.

[BlooInBloo]

50. (shrug) Zogby lies.

[ellie]

51. This is from everyone's

favorite pretend boyfriend, Nate Silver:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/03/worst-pollster-in-world-strikes-again.html

"So a Zogby poll that put Obama's numbers at roughly 50-50 would be a significant outlier. Outliers are nothing new, however, when it comes to Zogby polls. They are, in fact, the rule and not the exception."

snip

[kstewart33]

52. Have you seen Zogby's accuracy record lately?

It's in the tank. I don't know what's happened to him, but his polls are totally unreliable.

Of course, if the number's not red-sirened on Drudge yet, it will be.