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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:38 PM
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Whoa....the Notre Dame Catholics are pissed off Obama is going to
speak at commencement.

All the calls were expressing outrage. None supported the decision.

Two Notre Dame alumni who own and operate the world’s first Catholic internet TV station www.realcatholictv.com both immediately denounced the university’s decision to award Barack Obama honors and give him a stage from which to speak.

Marc Brammer, ND Class of ’74 and MBA’76 and Michael Voris ’83 each called the move a disgrace and a smear on the University’s reputation of being a Catholic school.

Voris discovered the news while live on the air with Relevant Radio’s Drew Mariana while he was being interviewed about the week’s news. "While I was actually on the air with Drew", Voris said, "I shot off an email to Fr. Jenkins (ND President) expressing my deep anger that the carnage done to the Faith by Notre Dame is continuing."

Voris shared the text of his email – “It is beyond sinful that a University dedicated to the Mother of God, in whose womb the salvation of the world became incarnate, would give a platform to the biggest enemy of life in the womb this country has ever seen.”


Link:

http://www.pewsitter.com/view_news_id_16537.php

LOL....what idiots
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:39 PM
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1. Yeah, so sinful to have the President speak
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 09:41 PM by LittleBlue
Fine, Obama should cancel and send in Shrub: "Dis hear part'da country... real fhiiine folks here... at ah Nootra Dam (hehe made a funny)"


They get what they deserve.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:22 AM
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20. "Y'all gotta fabulous university here. Jes' FABULOUS!"
Yep, they'd love that... :eyes:

Well, it's Indiana, for crying out loud...
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:40 PM
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2. Not surprised. They exhibit Christ like behavior all the time.
:eyes:
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:40 PM
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3. The tolerance of catholics has always been,,,, understated.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:43 PM
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4. Of course they only care about life IN the womb, not OUTSIDE.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:48 PM
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5. the same catholics whose spiritual leader was in the Hitler YOUTH as a teen? lol nt
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:49 PM
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6. Folks, we're talking about two disgruntled alums
This is the largest Catholic university in the country (I think; BC or St. Johns might be larger). There are tens of thousands of alumni across the country. And let's not forget that ND has a history of welcoming a free exchange of ideas.

Let's not turn this into yet another festival of Catholic-bashing.

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:50 PM
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7. + 1
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:51 PM
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8. But I like to bash Catholics on Saturday night. Chill - I thought the
article was funny - no offense intended.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:01 PM
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10. No problem with the article, and no offense taken
I just have a bad feeling about where some other DUers are going to take this thread.

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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:14 PM
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14. That's why i'm changing threads before I say something
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 10:14 PM by Fire1
offensive.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:52 PM
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9. Perhaps those two should sit it out?
They aren't graduating, so its not like this is about them.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:02 PM
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11. If I could sit through a right wing Congressman at my graduation...
these guys can deal with Obama.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:04 PM
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12. That's what I'm thinking.
Didn't Bush give some commencement addresses during his Presidency?
Who would have wanted to sit through that?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:18 PM
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15. It's more than two.
"As of late Friday night, hundreds of callers had overwhelmed the switchboard at Notre Dame as news began to circulate that Obama had been invited to give the commencement address at Notre Dame on May 17th.

* * * *

"All the calls were expressing outrage. None supported the decision."
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asphalt.jungle Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:21 PM
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16. how would this biased source know how many people called UND?
these types of organizations aren't known for exaggerating support for their issues.

:sarcasm:

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:25 PM
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17. They spoke to the operators.
"ND operators said the calls simply became too much to handle. Voice mails of the University President, Vice-President, Provost, assistant-provost and PR director were all full by 10pm EST."
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:32 AM
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28. Astroturf
This the EWTN crowd making noise again. They get a lot of media attention, but are really pretty irrelevant. Notre Dame has been through this routine hundreds of times, since the "Vatican I" crowd detests the school. ND frequently brings in speakers or hosts symposia, and these guys start pissing and moaning.

Let them go to one of Tom Monaghan's clown colleges if they are so easily offended.

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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:46 PM
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37. But the callers were right-wing Catholics many of whom have
never been near the Dome.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:10 PM
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13. FYI: Obama won the Catholic vote in the election.
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ChuckTodd Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:02 AM
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18. Why did Obama accept this invitation?
Screw Notre Dame. Obama should've rejected this.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:17 AM
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:20 AM
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19. For the record, I think this would have happened to any pro-choice Prez.
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 12:22 AM by Tarheel_Dem
Obama should simply say that if it's going to cause a problem, he'll withdraw. Let them get someone else, he doesn't need this shit.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:42 AM
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22. Agreed.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:53 AM
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21. Notre Dame is Catholic?! Did not see that coming.
And I thought all they did was play football.


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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:18 AM
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26. Just not terribly well...
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:49 AM
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23. I think he should tell them thanks but no thanks. No sense pissing in the wind.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:29 AM
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27. Do you know anything about Notre Dame?
Notre Dame is among the most progressive Catholic universities in the country. This isn't Franciscan University of Steubenville or Mount St. Mary's, which are known as paleocatholic enclaves. Notre Dame has always made a concerted effort to encourage a free exchange of ideas, even when it ruffles the feathers of right-wing Catholics.

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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:48 PM
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38. Try "especiall when it ruffles the feathers..."
The Holy Cross fathers have a real reputation for encouraging the free exchange of ideas. Notre Dame has trained many an excellent debater.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:05 AM
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24. Whiners...nt
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:31 AM
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29. Maybe if they thought of Obama as a very old embryo . . .
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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:40 AM
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30. LOL
:rofl:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:53 AM
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31. But Little Dougie Feith can teach at Georgetown???????
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 12:26 PM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 01:41 PM
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33. Rec'd~ I wondered about that when
I saw the news of Prez' Commencement Addresses. Wonder how many Catholics were tired of bushit and voted for Obama?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 01:42 PM
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34. Chris Matthews was protested when he spoke at Holy Cross, he's also pro choice.
this isn't a new thing for Catholic colleges.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:29 PM
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35. ....and your football program sucks !!!!!!!!
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:45 PM
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36. That is a small group compare to Catholic Democrats
who are cheering the announcement. Voris is an active, right-wing Republican and the TV station he co-owns is really deep fringe.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 03:51 PM
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39. This Notre Dame alumunus had to put up with 4 years of right-to-lifer bullshit
and ignorance...they're a very vocal part of the university, sadly.
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