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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:52 PM
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POLL RESULTS: If the 2010 elections were held today, which party would you vote for? Tied.
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 05:10 PM by FrenchieCat

In NPR's first survey since the election, a bipartisan team of pollsters — Republican Glen Bolger and Democrat Stan Greenberg — found that a lot has changed. Despite a major economic crisis, far fewer voters think the country is on the wrong track: 63 percent, down from 80 percent in the previous NPR national poll.

That means that — relatively — people are happier with their leaders in Washington. But when asked whether they'd vote for the Republican or Democratic congressional candidate if the 2010 elections were held today, the result was a tie: 42-42.

"There's concern about the spending plans and other paths that Obama and Democrats in Congress are taking, so I think you're seeing a little bit more move toward a balance," Bolger said. "People still want the president to succeed. He's got a 59 percent approval rating. He has a lot of intensity, particularly from his base. But that doesn't mean that people want one side to have a blank check."

Historically, the party that holds the White House and Congress loses seats in midterm elections. But Greenberg points to other findings in the survey, which was conducted March 10-14.

"Everything else in this poll points toward much more dramatic shifts toward the Democrats," he said. "On all of the arguments we've looked at in this survey, on virtually every single question, Democrats enjoy about a 10- to 12-point advantage."

When asked to compare Democratic and Republican positions on health care, energy, the deficit, taxes, the stimulus package and the president's budget, Democrats came out ahead across the board.

"That means Republicans still have their work cut out for us," Bolger said.

"It means the Democrats are dominating the issue debate before the country," added Greenberg. "As we're going into these big debates about the direction of the country, we have the Democrats with a consistent advantage on ideas. And this is above partisanship — this is twice the party ID advantage."

On party ID, the number of likely voters identifying themselves as Democrats is 6 points ahead of Republicans — not nearly as big a spread as during the election, or in the actual voting for House seats.

Then there's the president's job approval rating: a healthy 59 percent overall, and 56 percent on handling the economy. It is down from the mid-60s, but it's just about where the past four presidents have been at this point in their terms.

Still, inside the Obama approval rating, there are data that are heartening to Republicans who have been waiting a long time for some good news — and Bolger is one of them.

"What I find encouraging is that in this survey, he's under 50 percent approval among independent voters," Bolger said. "I thought that, you know, given his rock star status, that he was going to be stronger longer with independents. But independents are becoming a little more skeptical. They haven't turned on him by any stretch, but he's not up on the pedestal among independents like he had been right after the election and right around the inauguration."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101974694


For those who haven't yet figured out what this whole ginned up outrage on Bonuses is really about, I've got a couple of condos to sell you with no money down!

Note that if it wasn't for the Republican's pesky problem of Obama's popularity, we would be heading toward bigtime doo-doo, and to a great degree, that is exactly what is being "worked" on with this attempt to pin this Bonus Bogus Bullshit on Barack Obama. I warned about our gleeful media having such large smiles on their faces, and some listened, most didn't.

Here's my warning right before this latest manufactured controversy exploded: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8266149

In actively encouraging the "Criticize your President all you want because it is the only healthy thing to do" motto from some factions of our party.....When we lose some of our majorities in Congress, and our President is hog tied on various policies, they should not act like they didn't know what was happening. They did; in fact their buzz is helping the cause....of the Republicans that is. I certainly hope that at such time that this ploy of the GOP/media works, this faction of our party will finally dispense with the niceties of their rationalization and understand that politics is like a playground school house game for both the media and the Republicans, not like an Oxford high minded debate of principles.

Those who worked hard on this project of relentlessly attacking this President, I will have to give them my congratulations if they are sucessfull, as they understood precisely what some do not (or do not want to); that "United we Stand, Divided, we fall"






New poll for National Public Radio by the Republican firm POS and the Democratic firm GQR showing President Obama's job approval rating at 59%, with 35% disapproval. Overall, Obama's job approval stands at 60.2% in the RCP Average.

Congress' job approval rating are the inverse of the President, with only 36% approving of the job its doing with 59% disapproving. Congress' job approval is 36.8% in the RCP Average.

Also, surprisingly, in the generic ballot question Republicans and Democrats are tied at 42% each.



President Obama Job Approval RCP Average
Approve 60.8 Disapprove 30.2 Spread +30.6

Congressional Job Approval RCP Average
Approve 37.0 Disapprove 52.0 Spread -15.0

Direction of Country RCP Average
Right Direction 37.3 Wrong Track50.8 Spread -13.5

Generic Congressional Vote RCP Average
Democrats 47.6 Republicans 38.6 Democrats +9.0

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/03/17/npr-poll-obama-approval-at-59/


Further commentary on gains in various polls by the GOP intelligencia (if that isn't an Oximoron, I don't know what is! :crazy: )
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/03/npr_poll_democrats_and_republi_1.asp





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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:55 PM
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1. Silencing critics will not improve the Democratic Party's image.

Bold, decisive and unabashedly progressive legislative accomplishments will.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:03 PM
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3. You keep right on talking!
I'm not here to tell you what to do, only the possible results.

Please note that this is aimed more at the hard work involved by some
in reference to the specific Bonus issue. There are plenty so busy
participating in the Sherlock Holmes game presented to them by the media
of who knew what when, that they have failed to also see that the end game
is not justice, satisfaction or even truth.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:14 PM
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5. Unfortunately, so many on DU and on the left are so out of touch
with where this country is politically, that your plea will fall on deaf ears. You're absolutely right, of course. They won't realize it until it's too late.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:54 PM
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8. This country is *crying out* for progressive leadership...

... in a way that we haven't seen in decades.

From the OP:

...When asked to compare Democratic and Republican positions on health care, energy, the deficit, taxes, the stimulus package and the president's budget, Democrats came out ahead across the board.

(snip)

..."As we're going into these big debates about the direction of the country, we have the Democrats with a consistent advantage on ideas. And this is above partisanship..."


We must seize this moment to act, and do so boldly. Those on the Left understand this. The appeasers in the party, seemingly, do not.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:56 PM
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9. I think Barack Obama is attempting to seize the moment if it weren't
for so many feet up in his ass.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:15 PM
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11. Se also: FDR's "now make me do it" comment.

http://www.feri.org/common/news/details.cfm?QID=954&clientid=11005

If liberals, if progressives may not make their wants known now, then when?

:shrug:

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:22 PM
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12. There's a difference between respectfully disagreeing
and allowing the media to manipulate you.

If you reread my op, I don't comment on the generalities of disagreements with the President inasmuch as warning of buying into the spin handed to us by the media, in particular in reference to this bonus business game they are playing.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:36 PM
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15. I think media manipulation certainly does occur...

... especially among the easily-manipulated. But it does not explain -- or explain away -- all criticisms, as some in the No-Criticism-Allowed crowd seem to suggest.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:59 PM
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16. I think that you are as guilty of stereotyping........
as those that might believe that many here bash Obama for every single movement that he makes that they don't like.

There should be a happy middle here...where folks can describe their criticisms without becoming Repetitive Drama Mavens.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:08 PM
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18. Or a happy middle...

... where that small but vocal band of self-appointed Purity Police... refrain from parachuting into every thread that expresses criticism. Where the Purity Police stop tearing down respected voices of the Left (such as Paul Krugman) who've managed to gain a voice in the national dialog. It's nauseating, the passivity and timidity they seek to impose. And will only ensure, if they succeed, that only the right-wing will have a say.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:50 PM
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21. Krugman is a voice on the left that can be criticized as much as
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 07:54 PM by FrenchieCat
President Obama, who I also view as a voice on the Left.

You complain and mention nausea about purity police tearing down some voice,
but don't seem to have a problem with those who tear down Obama, who actually
got voted in by the left, and was not simply appointed by a some as their voice in the national dialog.

Why a double standard?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:16 PM
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22. Sigh. This is turning into the conversational equivalent...

... of Brownian motion.

I'd pose the same question to you: Why the double-standard? Or, why not practice what you preach? :shrug:

But those are rhetorical questions, BTW, so I hope you don't feel compelled to organize a defense. It seems to me that we might agree on the need for vigorous, vocal participation from the Left. But I suspect we'd continue to dither over what constitutes participation. Or even what constitutes the Left.

Oh well.

:hi:

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:23 PM
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23. Who said I haven't practiced what I preach?
I am torn down for regularily and accused of not criticizing our President as others would have. I am called a fan, a worshipper, a cheerleader, etc., etc.

When folks tear down, and I mean tear down Obama, I don't tell those folks to STFU.
And if you can show me where I did that, I'll apologize.

What I do warn is for folks to simply lookit the big picture, you know, the forest for the trees.

But if the choose not to, they ain't a damn thing I can do about it.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:56 PM
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2. This might just give the GOP the extra rope they need to hang themselves.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:04 PM
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4. True that they might get more excited than is warranted.
But beyond that, what I do know is that our President
is a marked man, and his budget is our bomb that the GOP
would love to diffuse.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:20 PM
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6. well said Frenchie..
I read an AP article, first thing today bemoaning the deficit, and how we will never get out of our national debt. Made no mention of the up-coming budget bill, but it's easy to see they're priming the pump.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:33 PM
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7. That is what they do, and to some extent,
although disappointing and hell of unfair it is expected.
But it is when we jump in that their ploy works best.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:01 PM
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17. I'm learning that lesson all over again..
pause when agitated..and...Think!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:07 PM
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10. I sometimes think that many people here would prefer minority status in Congress
Its much easier to stand on the sidelines yelling, as opposed to making the tough pragmatic decisions that come with governing, and attempting to be a true governing party.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:23 PM
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13. But screaming on the sideline yelling is not how we get our policies passed,
even if some have diluted themselves into believing this.
We finally have someone to work with who listens to us,
and still we decide that the media is our best friend instead.

Sickening!
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:33 PM
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14. being a bleeding-heart liberal, i'm not 100% satisfied with obama.
being a citizen of a country that is not scandinavian, i also realize obama is as good as it will REALISTICALLY get in our country until all americans wake-up and become progressive.

until that day arrives, i won't help repubs take-over the government... because that is the only other REALISTIC alternative now in this country today.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:09 PM
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19. that's why I asked: where was the outrage when Bush paid $55 mil in bonuses to AIG in Dec 08?
why outrage now, but not in Dec 08???????
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:39 PM
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20. Because it was manipulated outrage, not Organic...
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 07:42 PM by FrenchieCat
but then Bloggers decided that playing Sherlock Holmes (and arguing on pitting Democrats like Dodd against the Administration) was a fun thing to do. Did they know the implication in reference to what they were doing? I don't think that they cared in anything other than being right. Than calling for Geithner's head above the President's call of confidence made them feel smart and smug and in control. They didn't care that actually getting their trophy head would be the end of an effective Obama administration in terms of getting any passed. Otherwise, they may be principled, but they are lousy at handicapping politics. And in this country, Politics is quite important to take into consideration in getting anything done!
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cwcwmack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:24 PM
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24. poll schmoll
I don't believe them.
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