Anyone else see what Keith just said about Obama on Leno tonight?

[jenmito]

Keith just said Obama made a mistake tonight-could anger some people. When asked about bowling in the WH, after some banter about how he's been practicing, he said something about his score, 129, being like a score from the Special Olympics. Keith had Craig Ferguson on and when Keith told him, he said, "Oooh. That's not good. He should ask to get that part edited out." I hope they DO, darn it. Ya think it will be a big deal in the MSM?

[Connie_Corleone]

1. It doesn't matter if it's edited out or not. It's out there now.

I haven't seen the clip yet, so I'll wait.

[jenmito]

5. The written word is one thing. Video is another. n/t

[JI7]

9. yes, that's why i'm hoping they cut it out

he could still acknowledge it and apologize for it without them showing it. but it's much worse if there is video of it.

[jenmito]

14. I agree. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

67. I disagree. If they cut it, the video still EXISTS, and is known. Someone'll get a hold of it...

and then you'll have a story about a cover-up.

It's not the crime that gets you, it's the cover-up, they say.

Take your licks, Obama, show (sincere) contrition, and move on.


(And besides the practicalities, taking your comeuppance is just the right thing to do.)

[polichick]

2. Probably had Special Olympics on his mind earlier when speaking with...

...Maria Shriver ~ I feel bad for him. That stuff happens.

[Kdillard]

3. Umm yeah it is a boo boo.

[LakeSamish706]

4. To me that just shows the even more human side of him... It was a mistake...

but it will be ok IMO.

[jenmito]

7. Yeah...

I just hope somebody doesn't make a big deal about it.

[Kdillard]

8. That would be asking too much unfortunately. Anyway I am sure he will apologize.

[jenmito]

11. True. And it's not like he said it "in private" or anything.

[Kdillard]

33. Exactly and as Drunken Irishman stated it could be nothing.

[jenmito]

38. It could be and I hope it is.

[global1]

29. Oh - Somebody Like The Repugs?.........nt

[GrizzlyMan]

79. Unfortunately he will be skewered for it

For at least 48 hours. There are enough people who hate Obama on DU to keep it alive for at least that long, let alone his other enemies on the right. You just can't say shit like that in this day and age and expect for people to get the joke, or not be offended if they don't get it.

[Peacetrain]

6. I just threaded to the same thing myself..

uff dah

[Drunken Irishman]

10. haha, you guys crack me up.

You can't even wait for the thing to air before you bitch.

Yeesh.

This is why I don't watch Olbermann anymore. He's a blowhard and will always say something to create a buzz for his blowhard show.

[jenmito]

12. You don't like Keith?

I think he's on Obama's "side," and said it out of concern.

[Drunken Irishman]

16. I'm not saying he's anti-Obama.

I don't think he is. I'm saying he's a blowhard who says things to create buzz for his program. He's outlandish at times and already making this a controversy, even though the thing hasn't even aired yet.

I did find it interesting that the New York Times did a write-up on this and didn't mention that comment once. But oh, there's Olbermann to stir the pot!

Pathetic. Let's see what was said and how it was said before we make this an issue. Some are already demanding he apologize and why? Because Olbermann said something? haha

[Peacetrain]

20. Well as someone else pointed out.. some mole in the audience

would have had it out there, and it would have been a much bigger thing than what it is. Obama just put his foot in his mouth, like we all do from time to time.

[Drunken Irishman]

22. You're not getting it.

No one knows how this went down. Olbermann could be totally making this more dramatic than it actually was.

What I'm saying is that we can't even wait for this thing to air before we stone the president.

Fuck Olbermann for stirring the pot and planting the seeds out there, especially if this is nothing.

[Connie_Corleone]

24. I read that NY Times write up before I heard about this.

The NY Times only mentioned his bowling score. Apparently, they didn't think it was a big deal. I guess it will be now.

Obama can't even scratch his nose without stirring controversy over whether he's giving someone the finger or not.

So, I guess the Special Olympics will be the new "controversy" for the next couple of days.

Gee. I can't wait until next week's controversy to start. :eyes:

[jenmito]

25. I am glad the NY Times didn't mention it, but I disagree that Keith said what he did

to "create buzz for his program." He didn't bring it up in the intro. He brought up his Special Comment that he'd be giving at the end. I really don't think he had ulterior motives when he mentioned it. :shrug:

[Drunken Irishman]

27. Bull. Why bring it up before the thing airs?

It's bullshit. He's trying to stir the pot like the blowhard he is. No one has seen this clip, yet he's already got some of you thinking Obama is picking on the special kids.

He's a fucking dick. For all we know, it wasn't said the way he said it, or maybe it looked totally different than what Olbermann stated. But now it's out there and now people will hear Pres. Obama is picking on the Special Olympics.

It doesn't take much to get a nasty rumor out there. And there's Mr. Blowhard Olbermann fanning the flames even before this thing airs nationally. Pathetic.

[jenmito]

43. I'm surprised you are so negative towards Olbermann...

he is one of the only reasons for libs. to watch MSNBC. Do you not like his Special Comments?

[Drunken Irishman]

47. I don't like him.

I think he's annoying and completely full of himself.

My problem is that he's planting the seeds that Obama said something horrific. Had he not said anything and we all just watched the thing, it's very possible none of us picked it up or thought it was that big of a mistake. But now it's out there and it's being spread by the blowhards in the press so that when we watch tonight, we'll fixate on that comment and it's going to be a far bigger issue than it really should be.

He's stirring the pot.

That's what I hate. Instead of just letting things fall where they may, he's already out there pushing the fact Obama said this. That is not going to play well, because it's going to be the first thing we look for when he's on with Leno and very well could make it out to be a far bigger deal than it really should be.

[jenmito]

50. Well, as I see below, Jake Tapper wrote an ARTICLE about it. I doubt he got it

from Keith.

[Drunken Irishman]

54. It's the same thing, though.

It's both of them.

They might have different intents, but the outcome will be the same.

We're going to be thinking about Obama's comments all night and when the show finally airs, we'll be waiting and waiting for it to escape his lips.

That's not good. Olbermann does no one a service by releasing this comment before the show airs because it'll become the focal point of the interview for so many people who hear what Obama said before they actually listen to him.

Then that undercuts his entire message and makes the whole show about that one comment.

[jenmito]

56. Out of the millions of people who will watch it tonight, how many do you think saw Olbermann's show?

Keith is one of the good guys. He doesn't mean any harm. Tapper means harm and I DOUBT he got the transcript from Keith's show.

[Drunken Irishman]

59. It doesn't matter how many people.

It only takes a few hundred thousand to get things going.

The Internet is an easy place to spread this crap.

It's already gripped DU, it'll quickly move over to FreeRepublic and by the time Leno airs, I'm sure it'll be an issue for a lot of people.

Regardless, he should have shut up and let the thing air before he commented on the remark. But he didn't because he's a blowhard.

[jenmito]

62. From what I see, this is the only thread on the subject. I'd hardly call that "gripping DU."

I disagree that he's a blowhard.

[Drunken Irishman]

83. That's fine, but after watching it, was it really as bad as some were making it out to be?

That was my concern all along. This thing was not even a big deal and Olbermann made it out to be just that. Maybe his intent wasn't to hurt Pres. Obama, but it got a lot of people in a tizzie over NOTHING!

[Common Sense Party]

72. He's a self-important, pompous ass with a thesaurus.

Other than that, I have no problem with him.

[Hansel]

64. Really? Wouldn't he have said it in private to him alone then?

He said it because that's what passes for news these days.

[jenmito]

68. I don't think you understand what I meant by that...

I said it's not like OBAMA made that comment in private-like at a fundraiser where someone secretly recorded him or something.

[Lilith Velkor]

81. I like Keef, but yeah, he is a blowhard

He's kind of like a liberal version of Colbert, only he's not kidding.

[Jackeens]

13. Fuck. Sorry, only word that springs to mind.

[Cha]

15. Time to make some lemonade..Obama does this

and so do I. If something goes down that leaves a bad taste then use it as an opportunity to do something good that you normally wouldn't even have thought of.

[jenmito]

18. Yes, he DOES have a way of doing that...

I can just picture Morning Joe opening their show tomorrow with the clip of him saying that (if they DO air it).

[Drunken Irishman]

19. Especially now that Olbermann opened the can of worms.

Thanks, Keith, you fucking tool.

We don't even know what was said, he totally could be making this out to be bigger than it is, but now that it's out there, people will hear it.

What a fucking dick.

[jenmito]

28. But he didn't make it into a big deal-he just mentioned it...

I think he was just saying it as a fact.

[Drunken Irishman]

31. Obviously he made it into a big enough deal where people are already freaking out.

He's stating something before any of us actually see it. Why? Because he's a fucking blowhard. Now he has everyone on the internet talking about how Obama picked on the Special Kids, some on DU demanding he apologize and NONE of fucking know what actually happened because the thing hasn't aired yet.

[jenmito]

34. He has everyone on the internet talking about how Obama picked on the Special Kids?

Have you seen this anywhere else besides here?

[Drunken Irishman]

39. haha, you're funy.

Because nothing moves fast over the internet, right?

Even before the show, we've got people stoning Obama, demanding he apologize, saying this is ugly and will be a huge media nightmare.

That's pretty remarkable. But what else do you expect? Blowhards have a lot of power.

[jenmito]

45. Have you or have you not seen this anywhere besides here?

I'm just asking based on what you just said. :shrug:

[Drunken Irishman]

52. Yes, now Jack Trapper at ABC is running with it.

Like I said, it's going to be like a firestorm through the internet and a good number of people are going to read this comment before they actually watch the show and it will influence them.

It's like someone saying right before you meet a person that they have a big mole on their cheek. That's like the worst thing you can say, because when you meet that person, you're going to totally focus on that mole. However, if nothing had been said, you might've noticed the mole, but it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.

Now Olbermann tells us what Obama said, someone posts it on DU, we all make up our mind it's a horrible comment and that he needs to apologize and he's going to be hurt by this, so when he actually says it, we're gonna think it was a horrible comment. Whereas had nothing been mentioned in the first place, we might've just ignored it.

[jenmito]

53. Do you really think JT got it from KEITH? n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

57. I never said that. I said they're both idiots for running with this.

They might have different motives, but it doesn't change the outcome. Trapper knows what he's doing and he's trying to make this as big of an issue as possible so that when we all watch Leno tonight, it's the one thing we're thinking about. Not Obama's answers to the economy or the banks, but this one comment.

That's the problem. Olbermann isn't anti-Obama and I don't think his intent was to hurt Obama, but he is doing just that.

Trapper's intent is to hurt Obama and the fact he's releasing this news BEFORE the show suggests that Olbermann probably fucked up.

[jenmito]

60. Did you watch KO' show? If not, then you should know the majority of the segment

was not about this comment.

[Drunken Irishman]

61. It doesn't need to be an entire segment.

It just took that segment to get us all talking about it. We now are focused on that one comment and not Obama's total performance.

[jefferson_dem]

40. Of course, Jake "The Tool" Tapper is on the case.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html

[Drunken Irishman]

44. Isn't it cute, Olbermann and Trapper have something in common.

They're both blowhards.

[jenmito]

48. Oh, man.

Here we go.

[jefferson_dem]

35. It's in the AP copy. ... No big deal if you ask me.

Someone who has a family member with such disabilities, who has participated in the Special Olympics. Obama was poking fun at himself. It's cool.

The White House bowling alley remains in place, Obama said, bragging that he rolled a 129-point game ("Like the Special Olympics or something," he said), but a basketball court is a priority.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/03/20/business/Obama-Leno.php

[Drunken Irishman]

42. It isn't a big deal, but it'll be made out to be a big deal.

Pushed by many on the left, as well.

I can't wait for Talk Me Down Maddow to discuss this and lash out against Obama, too.

This is going to be fun.

[Berry Cool]

32. Oh, calm down. It would have escaped anyway. People were in the AUDIENCE.

And you know the Repigs would have their spies there and report each and every thing he said and try to interpret it the worst possible way anyway.

It's more defused if people know about it beforehand and he can do damage control than if he tries to cover it up.

And I dare you to listen to Keith's Special Comment from tonight and still think of him as a "fucking tool" and "fucking dick."

[Drunken Irishman]

37. You're not getting the point.

This isn't about it being leaked. This is about Blowhard Olbermann discussing something NONE of us have seen. We don't know how any of this went down, but he's out there telling us Obama made a huge mistake. It's no big deal, yet DUers are already demanding he apologize and some are suggesting this is going to get extremely nasty. Yet none of us have seen a goddamn thing, we're only going on what Mr. Blowhard Olbermann said. So instead of waiting for the thing to actually air, then do it, he's got it out there already.

So even if it's nothing, even if Olbermann made it out to be a bigger issue than it really was, he's stirred the pot to the point where people will pick up on it.

Like I said, the New York times had a writeup and not once did they mention this comment. Oh but we have Blowhard Olbermann to do that for us!

[Cha]

46. Keith's on our side, DIrish..

and we need all the friends we can get.

It happened now Obama will deal with it.

[Drunken Irishman]

49. It doesn't matter if he's on our side, he's hurting Obama.

Now it's in our mids what Obama might have said. So when we watch Leno tonight, we'll be waiting for that comment and it'll stand out far worse than it would have if nothing was said. That's the problem and it works so well because once everyone focuses on something, it blows up into a far bigger issue. So a comment that probably would have not received much notice by many of us will now dominate our thoughts as we watch Obama on Leno and when it's said, it'll probably have a bigger impact than it should.

[Uzybone]

23. pre emptive lemonade

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/02/13/Biden-honors-a-movement-at-the-Special-Olympics/

[jenmito]

63. Thanks for the link. THAT'S a good thing.

[Cha]

65. That's right..thanks for bringing that

on right now. Perfect. Can't wait to hear what Obama says tonight:)

[Connie_Corleone]

17. You're asking if the MSM will make it into a big deal?

We're talking about the same MSM who debated for days whether Obama called Sarah Palin a pig or not.

[jenmito]

26. I know...

I guess I FEAR they'll make this a big deal which is why I started this thread.

[Thrill]

21. Well this is why they don't do those shows after elected

It can only hurt not help. Oh well. He'll have to deal with the MSM and the Repukes who have been waiting for him to do something like this.

[jenmito]

30. But Keith also said he was very well received and he went over well...

that comment was the only thing he obviously messed up, and he was the only guest on the show. It was probably still a net plus.

[sohndrsmith]

36. Yep - that was a dumb thing to say... My ex-BIL, who is an active participant in

Special Olympics - is a much better bowler than Obama will ever be (an educated guess on my part), and probably has a more accurate bracket...

That was an f/u on Obama's part, if that' is, in fact, what he said. However, I don't condemn him for it - I don't think he has any disdain for others - regardless of disability or IQ. He seems to merit respect based on integrity, and I think he simply made a verbal gaffe that I'm fully willing to not take offense with. If I felt Obama really did have disdain or was deliberately belittling of Special Olympic athletes (thus - folks with cognitive, genetic and other disabilities) I'd be freakin' MAD.

Someone will make an issue of it, no doubt... I cross my fingers that Palin doesn't exploit the statement to get her name in the news, but that is only possible if she somehow doesn't hear of it.

That's my take on the whole thing, anyway - good, bad or otherwise...

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

41. uh oh......

well, we'll see...

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

51. DUPE! delete

[wisteria]

55. I don't consider his comment derogatory towards special needs people.

I have a daughter who has special needs and she has participated in the Special Olympics winning several swimming medals. The purpose of the Special Olympic competitions are not to get the highest scores it is the camaraderie and the feeling of achievement which really matters. I take President Obama's comment to mean no more then he has not improved his bowling score much since the primaries and I am not offended for my daughter.

[jenmito]

58. I hope everybody feels that way...

but those who didn't like him anyway will use this against him, I'm sure.

[my2sense]

66. I don't find this offensive either

He was making fun of HIMSELF. Folks will be shitting their pants about this on the M$M instead of covering REAL news. Like how China & Russia are calling to discuss replacing the dollar as the world currency.

[Connie_Corleone]

69. USA Today blog mentions Olbermann

-- Obama recently bowled a 129 game at the White House bowling alley. "That's very good, Mr. President," Leno sarcastically said. After Obama's performance at a bowling alley in Pennsylvania during the presidential campaign, 129 actually is much better.

It was then, according to Olbermann, that Obama said the 129 was akin to a score in a Special Olympics competition. Olbermann, live on the air this evening, said his producers were watching the feed of the Tonight Show taping. The AP says Obama's remark was that the score was "like the Special Olympics or something."

Olbermann guest Craig Ferguson, of CBS-TV's Late Late Show, said the White House may want to beg NBC to cut that comment from the Tonight Show broadcast.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/03/64385677/1

[jenmito]

75. And they have an update mentioning Tapper's article

claiming Obama insulted the disabled. :eyes:

[Traveling_Home]

70. Delete - Dupe

[deminks]

71. AP copy says he was "bragging" about his bowling score

like the Special Olympics or something

http://cbs2.com/politics/president.barack.obama.2.963597.html

(snip)

The White House bowling alley remains in place, Obama said, bragging that he rolled a 129-point game ("Like the Special Olympics or something," he said), but a basketball court is a priority.

(end snip)

I don't think this was offensive, or even an oops. I think he just meant it was important to him.

IMHO

[Traveling_Home]

74. ABC Tapper President Obama Jokes About Being a Bad Bowler: 'It's Like the Special Olympics'

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html

President Obama Jokes About Being a Bad Bowler: 'It's Like the Special Olympics'
March 19, 2009 8:56 PM

The first appearance by a sitting president on "The Tonight Show" may well end up being the last.

President Obama, in his taping with Jay Leno Thursday afternoon, attempted to yuk it up with the funnyman, and ended up insulting the disabled.

Towards the end of his approximately 40-minute appearance, the president talked about how he's gotten better at bowling and has been practicing in the White House bowling alley.

He bowled a 129, the president said.

"That's very good, Mr. President," Leno said sarcastically.

It's "like the Special Olympics or something," the president said.

-more-

[Cha]

82. Jake Tapper is fucking tool for corporatewhoredom

and I would take what he says as a big fat nothing.

Obama did great on Jay Leno and will be doing more much to the chagrin of fucking mediawhores.

[jenmito]

73. Rachel's going to show a clip of Obama. Let's see if she plays that part. She didn't SAY anything

about it.

[jenmito]

76. Rachel just showed some clips and didn't show that one. n/t

[jenmito]

77. Response from the WH when asked to comment:

When asked about the remark, the White House said the president did not intend to offend.

"The president made an off-hand remark making fun of his own bowling that was in no way intended to disparage the Special Olympics," White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton said. "He thinks the Special Olympics is a wonderful program that gives an opportunity for people with disabilities from around the world."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

78. well...fox news you know had to pick it up already:

www.foxnews.com

[NYC_SKP]

80. Not yet, not the special olympics part. they criticize his going on the show.

but i didn't see reference to the comment...it will come.

[ShortnFiery]

84. Keith is beginning to worry me. He denied getting "the word" to not comment on Stewart-Cramer

interview. Keith may be PART of the Corporate World or, at least, morphing into one who likes to keep things "stirred up." :(