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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 04:46 PM
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This Surgeon General/Howard Dean stuff is odd. Also..lobbying or not lobbying.
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 05:12 PM by madfloridian
Dean has been quite open about his plans, which include several different options and groups he will be working with. He has spoken of the plans for a couple of weeks. Here are his plans, all out in the open.

Dean to rejoin DFA among other projects

Despite spending four years deep in the trenches of political warfare, Dean won't be winding down. In a phone interview with the Huffington Post he listed seven full-to-part-time gigs that he has lined up for the months and years ahead. Chief among them would be to renew his work with Democracy for America, the organization that he founded to build on the grassroots success of his presidential campaign.

"I'll be most interested in their health care stuff," he said. "Not only pushing for a health care bill but for one with meaningful reform."


He has also mentioned his other plans openly.

As for domestic politics, there won't be any individual consulting, at least in the near future. "Probably not," he said. "We will of course be doing stuff through Democracy for America. But I don't really plan to be a political consultant."

For Dean, who will be based in Vermont while traveling often to D.C., employment doesn't end there. The governor will work closely with the National Democratic Institute on topics such as spreading democracy and monitoring elections. He will serve as a Senior Strategic Advisor and Independent Consultant at the firm McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP. He will also work on early childhood education with a pilot program in New York City. Additionally, through the Harry Walker Agency, Dean will give paid-for speeches.


There's a long thread at Daily Kos with many vituperative comments. It concerns this position Dean is taking.

McKenna Snags Howard Dean for Government Affairs Practice

McKenna Long & Aldridge has landed Howard B. Dean III, the former Vermont governor, Democratic presidential candidate and, most recently, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, for its national government affairs practice.

Dean will be based in the firm's Washington, D.C., office as an independent consultant, and will serve as a strategic adviser to its health care and energy clients, said Eric J. Tanenblatt, who heads McKenna's national government affairs practice. "He won't be full time, but he will be spending quite a bit of time in the Washington office," said Tanenblatt, who has held various leadership positions in the Republican Party, including chief of staff to Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue.

Tanenblatt said Dean will not lobby on behalf of the firm's clients. Instead he will provide more "big picture" counseling. "Someone who has served as governor understands how government agencies work and their interaction with the federal government," he said.


The press release says he will not lobby.

So the DK front page poster ignites all kinds of ugly comments saying that Dean is becoming a lobbyist. Not what the press release says, just what the WP chose to headline today.

Me? I don't care what he does....I hope he earns a pile of money. He earned every penny he can earn. The party leaders have made it clear he has no national leadership role with the Democrats...so you go for it, Howie, make the money you can.

Me, I agree the most with Sam Stein at Huffington Post. I think the WH team is playing some little games with the Surgeon General position to hush up the so-called Deaniacs. I think it is insulting myself for them to play this game.

Dean Allies Suspicious Of Surgeon General Leaks, See Politics At Play

Allies of Howard Dean are saying that recent leaks from the White House, in which anonymous officials suggest that the former DNC Chair is being considered for the post of Surgeon General, seem suspiciously-timed and politically motivated.

"The White House knows Dean indicated he was not interested last December, so it seems odd that they are floating his name," said one ally of the former Vermont Governor. "I question the timing given that they have been getting criticism for how he's been treated."

..."The network also quoted "one Democratic strategist close to Dean" saying, unequivocally, that the former DNC chair would accept the appointment if offered.

But from conversations with several Dean allies, one gets the exact opposite read. "This is a position that Dean has already indicated he is not interested in back in December when his name was floated," said one confidant. That his name would now be mentioned seemed like a late-hour attempt to placate Dean backers angry over his absence from the administration, not a serious proposal."

..." But with that nomination going first to former Majority Leader Tom Daschle and then to Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, he has turned his sights to achieving health care reform from outside of elected office, those close to him insist. His plate is certainly full. Dean is scheduled to take on roughly seven different part-time gigs, including renewing his work with Democracy for America, serving as an adviser for the firm McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP, working at the National Democratic Institute, and consulting foreign politicians on progressive politics.

The White House did not return a request for comment.


Lobby, not lobby? Who really cares. The firm says he really isn't, but what does it matter? He will still work partly from the DFA offices in Burlington, and that alone will accomplish something good in advocacy.

He deserves what he can earn. Good for him.

His speech in Harrogate, North Yorkshire, UK a couple of days ago brought him standing ovations. He is well-respected there, more respect than his own party has shown him here.


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 04:51 PM
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1. Appears that whether Howard Dean is being considered for SG or not
he's already decided that is not a job that is in the cards for him.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 05:58 PM
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2. Sam Stein on top of it again.
Media Falsely Reports Dean Will Become Lobbyist, Disqualifying Himself From White House

Did Howard Dean unilaterally remove himself from consideration for an Obama administration position?

That's the blaring headline from USA Today, which, citing a report in the Washington Post, says that by signing on with the lobbying firm McKenna, Long & Aldridge, the former DNC chairman has apparently ended his "stated hopes of joining the Obama administration."

Only, it's not true. While McKenna does lobby the government, and the Obama White House has an ethics policy that prohibits (almost all) lobbyists from serving in the administration on an issue on which they've lobbied, Dean himself won't be a lobbyist.

"Washington Post reporter Al Kamen got it wrong this morning," said Karen Finney, a spokesman for Dean. "He wrote that without talking to me or Dean. As you know, Dean is an Independent Consultant for the firm and not a registered lobbyist."

Indeed, Dean is joining McKenna as a consultant on health care and alternative energy issues and an independent adviser on specific projects that he chooses. His job portfolio, while attempting to influence the political debate, won't include the dreaded 'L-word' in it.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 07:21 PM
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8. Glad to see Karen Finney still a spokesperson for Dean.
She does a good job.

""Washington Post reporter Al Kamen got it wrong this morning," said Karen Finney, a spokesman for Dean. "He wrote that without talking to me or Dean. As you know, Dean is an Independent Consultant for the firm and not a registered lobbyist."
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 06:06 PM
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3. Howard Dean was a Govenor of a State and Head of the DNC
Seriously folks Surgeon General is a huge step down. Anything less than a Cabinet Sec. post I would turn down if I were Howard Dean.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 06:12 PM
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5. I agree.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 06:17 PM
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6. I doubt he ever wanted that SG job.
It's games.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 04:47 PM
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15. In most cases, I'd agree with you, but he's uniquely qualified for this. nt
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:38 PM
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23. Dean is nobody's flunky
He's got bigger fish to fry.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 06:10 PM
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4. Curiouser and curiouser!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 06:46 PM
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7. The DKos poster has it spreading around all the blogs now.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 07:33 PM
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9. Arshad at DFA is one trying to correct this error.
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 07:33 PM by madfloridian
Once a rumor gets started, no one listens to the truth. in a comment at Open Left, Arshad posts the link I posted above.

"Not true
Well, once again, it pays to be skeptical of the traditional media.

This story is untrue. He is not a lobbyist. The reporter got it wrong. Both the firm and the Governor's spokesperson (and me) will confirm this for you. Interestingly, the reporter didn't ask either before penning this.

Sam Stein has the correction at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/09/media-falsely-reports-dea_n_173266.html

Didn't stop USA Today from running with it, of course. The Gov does have a position in the firm advising clients on Health Care policies and public-private partnerships. If you ask me, I think more people should be asking the Governor for guidance on these issues.

by: Arshad Hasan @ Mon Mar 09, 2009 at 18:40:10 PM CDT"

It's a shame how it is spreading all around the internet.

:shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:46 PM
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10. Arshad also posts at Daily Kos...trying to correct this issue.
Here are his comments from Daily Kos in the diary front paged that should be corrected. Arshad points out he just got back from Europe and starts back at DFA this week.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2009/3/9/12582/57093/318#c318


"He's not a lobbyist. (4+ / 0-)

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floridagal, Great Shad, HobbyWizard, littlebird33

Period.

The article implies that he's a lobbyist and runs with the implication all the way through. The author seems to have a lot of fun with it, too.

Here's the deal: He's not a lobbyist. That's not his gig. It's even in writing in the firm's own announcement. He is providing guidance to clients on Health Care policy and public-private partnerships. I think more people ought to ask Howard's advice on those matters, and I'm glad they are.

But he's not doing any lobbying.

He's got a lot on his plate. He just came back from Europe - also giving some guidance there. He's helping out at a 0-3 kinds program in New York. The WaPo article didn't seem to mention these.

He is back at DFA (starting this week). We'll be organizing around Health Care (among many other things), and we'll be drawing a line in the sand at the availability of a public option.

We're right to be skeptical. Of everything and everyone. That's what we're good at. But let's remember to be skeptical with the traditional media, too.

Thanks.

--Arshad Hasan
Executive Director, DFA

"what I want to know..." www.democracyforamerica.com

by Arshad Hasan on Mon Mar 09, 2009 at 07:16:17 PM EDT"
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:34 PM
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11. Howard told me, and not only me, all this over a month ago
I knew all this after meeting with him Feb. 1, and he made no secret of his intentions
back then. I posted most of what he said back then at the time, all that was on the
record, anyway, and that was most of it (not the name of the law firm he was going to
be attached to--that was made public later on). So, if the media or any branch of it
is reporting something other than Howard would have been glad to tell them straight out,
then someone has an ulterior motive for tossing Howard's name in the mud. Howard's
straight talk and allegiance to the populace obviously still scares enough people both
on the right and in the center to warrant their making up crap about him, and passing
it off as newsworthy headlines. I guess I'm not surprised they fell for it (if, indeed
that was the case, rather than a coordinated smear).

I hope he continues to make them really, REALLY uncomfortable. They say that nothing
succeeds like success. In Howard's case, I'd say nothing terrifies like success, either.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 04:44 PM
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13. You did post that weeks ago. Dean has told the WH that according to this interview.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:44 PM
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12. Let me see if I can express this in song:
For all the latest medical poop,
I still go to C. Everett Koop.
Koop Koop A Doop.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 04:49 PM
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16. Another song....
You put your right foot in,
you take your right foot out,
you put your right foot in
and you shake it all about,
you do the hokey pokey and you
turn yourself around,
that's what it's all ah-bout...

First Dean's out, then, he's in, then he says he's not interested...

I can't keep up with it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 04:46 PM
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14. He says he wasn't interviewed, but he's interested. Now, he says he was interviewed, but not
interested.

None of it makes any sense to me.

And then there's the press conference to introduce Tim Kaine as the new head of the DNC that Dean said he would have attended if invited.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 04:52 PM
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17. I think you are confusing the issue. He never said those things.
He made it clear he wanted the HHS, but was cautious not to actively campaign for it. But the WH knew it.

He made it clear to anyone paying attention AND to the WH that he is not interested in the SG position. He told them in Dec. apparently. So why are they floating his name.

As to the press conference to introduce Tim Kaine? He was NOT invited. They waited until he was in Samoa.

It was rude and there was no reason to exclude him. They could have done the press confercence anytime.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 05:11 PM
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18. I think Dean has been treated shabbily also. I don't 'get' it. Any of it. nt
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 05:15 PM
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19. Why should Howard Dean wait around again for Obama to decide
if Dean is acceptable to Rahm? Dean has his own superb ideas about health care reform and should not be tied to Obama as a Surgeon General anyway.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 05:23 PM
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20. Never been a Deaniac,..
...but have the greatest admiration and respect for the good doctor. He was a super imoprovement at the DNC, and deserves much of the congratulations for the recent Obama win via the "50 state strategy". I've always trusted Dean as an outside the DLC voice for the Democratic Party.

I am miffed that the Obama administration gave him and other DLC outsiders the cold shoulder in the new administration.

IMO, "Surgeon General" is an insult to Dean, and if offered he should turn it down. He is much more valuable to us DLC Outsiders at DFA.


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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 06:38 PM
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21. Smells like a preemptive coordinated smear against Dean and DFA
The White House can say to Dean's grassroots if Obama healthcare "reform" is perceived as too little too late, "Look, we tried to include Howard Dean and he wouldn't be a part of the administration." Seems pretty clear that his enemies want to portray him as flaky now.

We need to be on guard for the other side of the aisle creating division and mischief too.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:22 PM
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22. One of the couple of things I don't like that the O Adm. is for/against or has/hasn't done
and that is not asking Dr Dean to be a part of the Administration. Maybe they have and it's nothing Howard wanted, but I do know he is a brilliant and articulate man with great ideas and should be utilized. Thanks for the post.


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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:53 PM
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24. K&R
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