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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:06 PM
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BOYCOTT: JPMorgan Chase----Outsourcing 25% of jobs to India
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 01:27 PM by vaberella
Edited note: Originally posted JPMorgan Chase as a recipient of bail out money which was incorrect and this is edited to focus mainly on the out sourcing of jobs.

These assholes went one step to far. They need to be boycotted and now. And I'm sending a letter to Pataki and my Congressman (Rangel). We need to get put a stop to this and I want us all to write to President Obama and whoever else. At this point this is calling for some sort of nationalization. I'll even write to Krugman about this. It's not fair.

I was just watching the show on MSNBC after Morning Joe and I think it was Cameron (the newscaster) said that for one job as a janitor there were 700 applicants and then JP Morgan Chase a recipient of our money is outsourcing...this is call for a HELL NO!! We need to rise up, and we need to protest outside their doors. We need to remove our money from their banks (which I'm going to do tomorrow--my mum's money) and we need send letters to our Congressmen, our Senators, and local officials because there is no way in hell this should be allowed. I live in NYC, I'm going down to the FED and complain about this crap---They also need to be protested in front of.

Fuckin' tea party idiots need to protest the real criminals and JPMorgan Chase is on my hit list alongside Citigroup, BoA is my last hate list.

I used to work for Chase, they called me a Marxist and apparently my boss had it in to fire me when he could because he found out I was into Marx. Well then...I guess he was right, and I'm planning on having him lose his job for dumping American's who will work for pittance for outside workers.

Article below:


JPMorgan Chase to Increase India Outsourcing 25%
America's second-largest bank plans to spend $400 million on work outsourced to India to streamline its IT operations

By Pankaj Mishra

The second-biggest bank of the US, JP Morgan Chase, which acquired Washington Mutual and Bear Stearns recently, will increase its outsourcing to India by 25% this year to nearly $400 million. It will also manage the integration of the acquired companies from India to bring down the cost of integrating different information technology (IT) systems.

Right now, JP Morgan outsources $250-300 million worth of IT and back-office projects every year to Cognizant, TCS and Accenture, apart from to its own captive centre in Mumbai.

"JP Morgan CIO Guy Chiarello said last week that he will increase outsourcing to India, and will drive several integration projects from there," a New York-based expert, familiar with JP Morgan’s outsourcing plans, told ET last week, on conditions of anonymity. A spokeswoman for JP Morgan India could not reply to an email query sent by ET on Friday, and the bank’s spokesperson in the US too did not reply.

"JP Morgan is one of the first banks in the US to have fleshed out its outsourcing

strategy ever since the banking meltdown happened. Many others are still undecided about their IT spend," said a senior official at one of the technology firms, who did not wish to be quoted.

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/mar2009/gb2009039_431274.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_global+business

Other threads dicussing this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3774358&mesg_id=3774358

Contact information as provided by Frenchiecat:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7334714

Here's the WhiteHouse contact:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/


We need serious regulation and legislation on these pricks The banks and I need Obama to take control and put some laws on these banks or at least mandates with these funds. There needs to be serious restrictions.

Videos showing lack of restriction/mandates/legislation for funds given to idiot banks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj0JAfq4esk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-DOwLnQ4nk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8_w9QjJA8

Other monies recently dished out to these fools:
Citigroup nonsense: Citigroup Said to Pay $13 Million for Scrapped Resort Trips
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5_f5rPe0U48&refer=home

Citigroup Said to Pay $13 Million for Scrapped Resort Trips

By Josh Fineman

March 9 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc., the recipient of $45 billion in government rescue funds, doled out $13 million as compensation to employees whose trips to resorts the company was forced to scrap, two people familiar with the matter said.

Citigroup paid 1,900 agents of its Primerica Financial Services Inc. unit $5,000 each for missing a three-day stay at a Bahamas resort, the people said, speaking anonymously because the amounts aren’t public. Some 2,000 Smith Barney brokerage advisers got debit cards valued at $1,000, $2,000 and $3,000 for various canceled getaways.

President Barack Obama warned last month that companies receiving government bailout money “can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers’ dime.” Bank of America Corp., which like Citigroup has accepted $45 billion from the government, last month moved a health-care conference to New York from Las Vegas.

Primerica paid the agents, who are mainly independent contractors, because they won a seven-month-long sales contest, the company said. “We were legally obligated to do so,” Susan Thomson, a Citi Holdings spokeswoman said. Primerica and Smith Barney, both profitable businesses, are part of Citi Holdings, a new unit of Citigroup.


Other threads talking about it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3774553
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:08 PM
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1. and also ...
amazon.com - that credit card they offer if you make a purchase is BOGUS and is being issued by Chase.

BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT everything related to Chase!!!!!

:kick:

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:28 PM
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20. I got rid of that years ago. They broguht my APR to 30% when I gave my funds on time.
They rip people off.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:09 PM
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2. I thought Chase didn't take any bailout money.
Doesn't mean they're right, but I don't believe they got bailout funds.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:12 PM
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4. they took over WAMU
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 01:13 PM by CountAllVotes
and they are now running it as their own bank. Lots of screwin' going on there with the customers, I do know that much! People getting locked out of their accts. and such things I know of.

WAMU (Washington Mutual) was bailed out by the FDIC.

We the People are paying for this crap. :argh:

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:13 PM
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5. Got a link to that?
I thought WaMu didn't get any bailout either and Chase is really who bailed them out.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:15 PM
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6. JPMorgan Chase Acquires Banking Operations of Washington Mutual
JPMorgan Chase acquired the banking operations of Washington Mutual Bank in a transaction facilitated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. All depositors are fully protected and there will be no cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund.

"For all depositors and other customers of Washington Mutual Bank, this is simply a combination of two banks," said FDIC Chairman Sheila C. Bair. "For bank customers, it will be a seamless transition. There will be no interruption in services and bank customers should expect business as usual come Friday morning."

JPMorgan Chase acquired the assets, assumed the qualified financial contracts and made a payment of $1.9 billion. Claims by equity, subordinated and senior debt holders were not acquired.

"WaMu's balance sheet and the payment paid by JPMorgan Chase allowed a transaction in which neither the uninsured depositors nor the insurance fund absorbed any losses," Bair said.

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08085.html

:dem:

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:16 PM
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7. Thanks for proving my point
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 01:18 PM by WeDidIt
Neither Chase nor WaMu received any bailout funds. Chase bought WaMu before they failed.

Doesn't make their outsourcing right, but the taxpayers are not funding the outsourcing.

From the article:

div class="excerpt"]FDIC Facilitates Transaction that Protects All Depositors and Comes at No Cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:18 PM
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9. Check post 8, that's incorrect. n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:18 PM
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10. Check the FDIC
FDIC Facilitates Transaction that Protects All Depositors and Comes at No Cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:25 PM
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17. FDIC Can't Afford Washington Mutual Failure
The failure of a bank its size would test the strength of the US deposit insurance system and its ability to maintain the confidence of the nation's savers.

The US Federal Insurance Deposit Corporation covers the first $100,000 in deposits held by each individual in a given bank. As of June 30, 64 per cent of the total $7,000bn deposits were insured in the US - a much larger proportion than in the UK at the time when Northern Rock. the commercial bank, failed.

Nonetheless, this still leaves $2,500bn in uninsured deposits. If a high-profile failure causes these uninsured deposits to shift abruptly in a flight to safety, it could be highly destabilising for the banking system.

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle+articleid_2613912.html

I guess you forgot already, the FDIC is about insolvent. They stated that the WAMU bailout had stretched them thin.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:27 PM
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19. The FDIC didn't pay one cent on WaMu holdings
They facilitated the transaction to Chase.

No taxpayer money was involved.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:17 PM
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8. WAMU was bailed out and then some assets sold to JPMorgan Chase...n/t

JPMorgan Chase buys WAMU
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/sep2008/db20080925_760466.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily

Here is the proof that WAMU took money from the FDIC they almost bankrupt the FDIC:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1024774.html
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:19 PM
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11. NO COST to FDIC
FDIC Facilitates Transaction that Protects All Depositors and Comes at No Cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:21 PM
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14. Understood...but they were still bailed out by Chase.
In any event, these banks need to start working for us and not against us. 25% outsourcing to India affects us directly.

And secondly Citigroup is also playing with the American people.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:23 PM
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16. Chase bailed out WaMu
Chase is one of the few financial institutions that have been riding out this storm relatively unscathed.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:25 PM
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18. So far. But WAMU was not which is owned by JPMorgan Chase.
I don't care if they're not in crisis, outsourcing is not helping our economy but depleting it.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:28 PM
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21. Agreed, but when you make false claims to make your point
it doesn't help your cause even a little bit.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:31 PM
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22. Actually it was mistake on my part. I wasn't intentionally spouting false claims.
But I notice you're making a point to post that several times on this thread.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:38 PM
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24. I am only responding to those who respond to me. n/t
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:34 PM
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23. They took $25 billlion in TARP money last fall
http://bailout.uslaw.com/?page_id=353

TARP Recipients

Citigroup Inc (New York)— $25 billion
JPMorgan Chase (New York)- $25 billion
Wells FargoLoading... & Co. (San Francisco) — $25 billion
Bank of America Corp. (Charlotte, N.C.) — $15 billion
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (New York) — $10 billion
Merrill Lynch & Co. (New York) — $10 billion
Morgan Stanley (New York) — $10 billion
PNC Financial Services Group Inc. (Pittsburgh) — $7.7 billion
US Bancorp (Minneapolis) — $6.6 billion
Capital One Financial Corp. (McLean, Va.) — $3.55 billion
Regions Financial Corp. (Birmingham, Ala.) — $3.5 billion
SunTrust Banks Inc. (Atlanta) — $3.5 billion
Fifth Third Bancorp (Cincinnati) — $3.4 billion
BB&T Corp. (Winston-Salem, NC) — $3.1 billion
Bank of New York Mellon(New York) — $3 billion
Keycorp (Cleveland) — $2.5 billion
Comerica Inc. (Dallas) — $2.25 billion
State Street Corp. (Boston) — $2 billion
Marshall & Ilsley Corp. (Milwaukee) — $1.7 billion
Northern Trust Corp. (Chicago) — $1.5 billion
Huntington Bancshares Inc. (Columbus, Ohio) — $1.4 billion
Zions Bancorporation (Salt Lake City) — $1.4 billion

Full list at link

Sources: Market Watch: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/list-companies-planning-participate-tarp/story.aspx?guid=%7bA56A737D-0B6F-4C72-B97B-4CAFC806E83E%7d
NYT: http://projects.nytimes.com/creditcrisis/recipients/table
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:38 PM
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25. Thank you.
I was unaware of it.

I retract what I said about false statements as the OP has made none.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:09 PM
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3. K&R
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 01:10 PM by musette_sf
H-1B AND OFFSHORING MUST STOP!!!
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:19 PM
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12. Some of the stimulus does address this, keeping more jobs for Americans
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:20 PM
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13. Hysterical postings with inaccurate information doesn't help anything
It sucks that they are outsourcing jobs.

They did not, however, receive a thin dime of taxpayer money. The FDIC seized WaMu and facilitated a transaction that cost the US taxpayer exactly nothing.

Beyond the facilitation from the FDIC, Chase hasn't received anything from the US government.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:22 PM
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15. Actually I was planning on editing the original post...n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:39 PM
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26. No Need To! See Post #23. They took $25 billion in TARP
So you are right. I am wrong.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:44 PM
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27. I think you need to re-edit your re-edit...see reply #23
Torches n Pitchforks, people. Gotta go check my bloodpressure, SERIESLY111!!!111!!!!:nuke:
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 03:06 PM
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32. I can't unless I re-edit the entire post. Can a mod edit it?! n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 02:11 PM
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28. Kicking and Reccing
because post #23 showed that Chase received $25 billion in TARP funds.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 02:26 PM
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29. Good job by you...
I probably wouldn't have checked had you not questioned whether they received any funds.

K & R #5
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 02:27 PM
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30. Now that it's demonstrated, the point becomes even bigger
They should be barred from outsourcing ANY jobs.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 03:05 PM
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31. I can't edit any longer....since I just woke up from a much needed nap.
Oy...well what's done is done. So they did receive Bail-OUt.
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