So, 24 hours ago, we were all pretty sure that the Limbaugh affair was a huge, huge win for the Dems

[Occam Bandage]

and that Obama had maneuvered the Republicans into the awful corner of either having to suck up to pigboy and offend the moderates, or denounce pigboy and then have their entire base come screaming at them in anger. We were all quite pleased with this situation.

Then, Politico writes an unsourced piece saying this was all Rahm Emanuel's great idea. Suddenly, a sizeable portion of DU thinks this was a complete disaster and that the whole Limbaugh affair is further proof that Rahm Emanuel is an awful man who should be nowhere near the White House.

Could someone please explain why this makes sense to anyone?

[billyoc]

1. Because nobody likes Limbaugh

and nobody likes Emmanuel.

[billyoc]

2. Because nobody likes Limbaugh

and nobody likes Emmanuel.

[ccharles000]

34. I like Emmanuel

[firedupdem]

36. I like Rahm! n/t

[Clintonista2]

37. Speak for yourself

I like Rahm

[itsrobert]

3. I don't think painting Rush as the leader of the Repub party is a bad move at all

Good going whoever is up to this.

[Gman]

4. LOL!! You're looking for sense here with some of these folks??

LOL!! :rofl:

[dionysus]

8. you like to laugh at DUers, donctha Glen Bleck quoter?

:eyes:

[Captain Hilts]

28. 1930s:If you approve of a policy-credit Franklin, if you oppose it-blame Eleanor. Same with BO&RE.

[billybob537]

5. This is a hugh win for Obama

The Republics can't get thier message out becouse they are too busy kissing Rush' ass.
They're a laughing stock party.

[babylonsister]

6. Fer cryin' out loud.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5184844&mesg_id=5184844

TIME Blaming The White House For The Limbaugh Flap? (guess where TIME got their info?)

[slackmaster]

7. Sometimes some people on this forum act like a bunch of monkeys fucking a football

They become excessively exuberant.

[Bucky]

55. I'm tired of you judging my lifestyle. If you've never known true pigflesh love, I pity you.

I'm sickened by all the haters and porkophilophobes in this forum constantly equating gridiron-groin-grunting with Republicans. When you engage in this hate speech, you are insulting dozens, if not scores, of good Democrats who simply find love through a venue different from yours. Seig heil, Stalin!

[dionysus]

9. i seem to have missed all that, but rahm is still a douchebag.

:shrug:

[elleng]

13. a CLEVER one of those things.

.

[stevedeshazer]

10. Thank you

That Politico is the unsourced source of this bullshit says a great deal.

I don't trust Politico one iota.

[rwheeler31]

11. This is a huge win for the Dems, the spin is just dumb.

[ErinBerin84]

12. typical Politico shit stirring

They often have scoops, but they also like to pretend that they have scoops (and write tiresome editorials about it), all aimed at getting air time on cable news networks. They also had a piece today that claimed reporters have been sucking up to Obama aides in hopes of getting future press access. Now, I've said this before, but it's worth repeating since it's related. I once emailed Jonathan Martin and mentioned (jokingly, in a very polite way) the McCain journalists BBQ where he brought Cindy McCain flowers. He wrote me a pissy diatribe about how journalists can still socialize and be objective, and how "too much is made" of the BBQ. So I thought the "oh my god, journalists are socializing with the White House!" thing kind of hypocritical. And of course, without sourcing. I think they are still bitter than David Plouffe said their strategy was to ignore everything Halperin and Politico said, because they're always wrong. Again, sometimes Politico has the story before anyone else, but other times, when you read the actual story (like the "Obama's mystery man" story that they believed deserved an editorial, and somehow ended up on the aol home page), it's a whole lot of nothing.

[Cha]

20. Thanks,

ErinBerin.

[Numba6]

14. Whaddya smoking? I don't see ANY threads complaining, but...

Maybe they're done by people whom I have on my "ignore" list, which, I am sorry to say, grows... & I generally have just been putting the racists and the "obama is the same as bush" people on it.

I'd never take Politico's word on anything that doesn't sound like it came from the mouth of the GOP, they're all ex-GOP flacks over there.

But I hope to gawd the Limbaugh stuff was a planned strategy by political types. It was SMART!!

[Bjorn Against]

15. Is there actually anyone here that changed their mind?

I actually think it is a good idea to go after Rush, and despite the fact that I don't like Emmanuel the fact that he may have been one of the primary people pushing this idea doesn't change my opinion one bit. I don't have to like or trust the guy to think that he may have a good idea once in a while.

That being said I have a hard time believing that we were "all" sure this was a huge win, because my guess is there were probably at least a few people among the thousands on this site that did not think it was such a good idea. If you can show me people that changed their mind as a result of Emmanuel's involvement then I will agree that doesn't make much sense, but until I can see evidence of this I don't think you are necessarily making a fair assumption.

[sufrommich]

16. Because some democrats are behaving as if they

are shell shocked from the last 8 years and still hiding under their beds?

[tridim]

17. I see what you're getting at. nt

[liberal N proud]

18. I think that painting limpballs as the GOP leader is genius

[Cha]

19. I just saw one OP like that

and could not believe my eyes.

Who cares whose idea it was..it was about freaking time.

There were those on DU who thought it was a bad idea for "Obama to take on limpbaugh" at the time as did Bill Press who thought it was a bad idea but I'm not sure what they were thinking.

[spanone]

21. politico......do. not. trust. them.

[JerseygirlCT]

22. It doesn't, of course

Except in the twisty-turny, topsey-turvey way some people think!

[WeDidIt]

23. A sizeable portion of DU has rectal Cranial syndrome, too.

This is the best thing that ever happened to the Dmeocratic Party, from a strictly political standpoint.

[Captain Hilts]

29. Limbaugh is almost as good for us as GWBush was. It's all good. nt

[Arkana]

24. I really don't care how much screen time Pigboy gets.

I figure the more the better--the world can see what a horrible, repellent, sweaty, drug-addicted fool he is.

[Trajan]

25. Could someone explain ....

Why someone would worry about 'sizeable' shit-storms in DU ?

DU is no stranger to shit storms ... In fact: many come here to either cause them or jump in them ....

I find words such as 'sizeable' and 'we all' to be of little use here .... those references mean little ...

[Uzybone]

26. Rahm is a bogeyman to some

Its still a great move no matter whose idea it was. Rahm has been doing a great job IMO.

[Captain Hilts]

31. Yes, I agree. He and BHO compliment one another. Different strengths and weaknesses. nt

[Captain Hilts]

27. I don't think it has anything to do with either Obama or Emmanuel. nt

[CTLawGuy]

30. It makes me like Rahm more

and frankly I have never seen the Dems so organized about ANYTHING ever, other than Obama's campaign.

[GeorgeGist]

32. Rush is a useful distraction.

That's why it's a huge win for President Obama.

Never mind that Conyer's just caved to President Obama on a transparent investigation of Rove and Miers role in the USA firings.

[Historic NY]

33. "Were going to grab them by the nose & kick them in the ass". I find that refreshing.

considering we have wishy washy leaders in the congress.

[Clear Blue Sky]

35. I'll withhold judgement until this plays out longer. Too early to say.

[Canuckistanian]

38. Suddenly we're taking Politico as gospel?

Give your collective heads a shake, DU.

[Lilith Velkor]

54. Politico has been gospel on DU for a year now.

During the primaries, DRUDGE was gospel.

Don't mind me, I'm just here to gawk at the freaks. :yoiks:

[camera obscura]

39. What if I don't like Rahm much but still think he played this well?

I guess I don't exist. Huh.

[Jennicut]

40. I like Rahm and screw Politico.

[Dr Fate]

41. Funny thing- Rahm did not force the RNC to attack- then apologize to Rush.

And Rahm didnt force Rush to go on CSPAN etc and talk un-American trash.

So if Rahm "planned" this- that means he either has mind control powers, or the RNC is really predictible and stupid.

Makes the RNC look like fools either way.

[rvablue]

45. Dr. Fate, your are spot on with this analysis. If you are wrong, we are in for a wild ride

as Rahm must be some kind of master wizard?!?!?!?!

It's funny how the tone-deaf GOP did this to themselves and suddenly the RW Politico and their flimsy journalistic ethics, suddenly comes out with a "it was all Rahm's plan" BS.

Funny, how everyone named in the article is somehow connected to the Clintons. It's the same old spin and smear machine at work.

[Numba6]

52. because smear/innuendo/attacks are TACTICS & the Clinton foke were great...

at being tacticians, & concerned about the trees.

Obama's a strategist, & is concerned about saving the forest.

[rucky]

42. I thought the same as you, until you posted your opinion.

now I disagree with myself.

:P

[PopSixSquish]

43. For Those Who Were Paying Attention During the Clinton Impeachment Years

This is classic Carville/Begala/Emanuel. Pull the pin and throw the grenade, watch the Republicans fall all over themselves, scream and carry on about being attacked and then move one with "doing the nation's business and governing".

And please don't anyone think that President Obama isn't fully aware of what's going on. Axelrod, Gibbs and Plouffe are in on this as well.

The Republicans in Congress are now openly attacking the administration, giving up all pretense of "bi-partisanship". So they now either have to put up or shut up and come out with their plan.

It remains to be seen how long a shelf life this will have, but for today, I think it worked out just fine.

[LiberalFighter]

44. Obama's job is to be the President. Rahm's job is to be the pitbull.

It is Politico's job to be idiots who think they know it all.

[Peacetrain]

46. Makes no sense to me..

The Rush thing is completely pushed by the right.. on and on and on.. they are the ones feeding the frenzy.

Some people just are in the "habit" of second guessing ourselves

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. It Makes Perfect Sense.

Stupid people say stupid things.

See? Now wasn't that easy?

:rofl:

[Numba6]

48. Hysterics over non-existent hysterics -- no links?

Still waiting for even one thread that indicates even ANY DU'ers, much less a "sizeable portion of DU thinks this was a complete disaster"

Please, send me some of whatever you're taking, i like psychedelics

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8244701#8244727

[ErinBerin84]

49. I think the threads were more on the general discussion forum

I saw them too.

[Numba6]

50. then my mistake-but mebbe it shoulda been posted there -- & no on posted any links, if they exist

Not that you need to search for any for me, i hope some of us DO have lives

We still have hysterics over hysterics, then.

Hysterics cubed, anyone?

& I'll STILL take some of whatever you're taking, regardless

(signed: The Chemical Kid)

[LanternWaste]

51. 24 hours later it still seems like a huge, huge win...

24 hours later it still seems like a huge, huge win...

[Baikonour]

53. The real question is why would anyone here take something Politico writes seriously?

Limbaugh being exposed to the country IS a huge win for Dems.

[Geek_Girl]

56. Well I don't like Rush and I don't like Rahm

So it's a win win for me.