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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:21 PM
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Burris refuses to resign despite plea from Durbin
Burris refuses to resign despite plea from Durbin
AP Photo/Paul Beaty

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. Roland Burris refused to resign on Tuesday, rebuffing the call from the Senate's No. 2 Democrat who made it clear that the embattled Illinois lawmaker would have little luck next year winning the seat vacated by President Barack Obama.

"I told him that under the circumstances, I would resign," fellow Illinois Sen. Richard Durbin told reporters after an hour-long meeting with Burris. "He said, 'I'm not going to resign.'"

"I can't force him," Durbin added.

Burris was appointed by disgraced former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who was impeached and driven from office after he was accused of trying to sell the Senate seat.

Burris repeatedly changed his story about how he was appointed. He is facing calls for his resignation after he admitted trying to raise money for Blagojevich. Burris has said he did nothing improper.

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SENATE_BURRIS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:22 PM
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1. What a stupid liar and pathetic hypocrite. Stick a fork in Burris, he's done for in 2010.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 04:23 PM by ClarkUSA
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:22 PM
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2. He could just ask for an Ethics Committee investigation
By the time they finished pushing paper his term would be up.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:29 PM
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3. Burris is correct and should not reign.
He knows the hypocrisy of the white politicians in Illinois who have gotten their office through corruption and have the gall to tell Burris to resign. Durbin knows no shame.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:33 PM
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4. Tell me. Why do you say, "white politicians?" nt
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:26 PM
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9. I was involved in Illinois politics for more than two decades.
I know of no white politicians in Illinois who are in positions of power who are not corrupt. Yet no one is telling them to resign. Burris knows this hypocrisy.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:46 PM
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15. Pat Quinn certainly isn't corrupt. He's white and the Governor.
If you know something we don't about Quinn, howzabout sharing?
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:57 PM
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18. I'll be happy to.
Quinn sponsored an initiative in the 1980s to reduce the size of the Illinois House by 2/3s. He demagogued in the election to get it passed. Before the initiative there were many independents and progressives in the Illinois House -- even from solid Republican districts because the law required at least one member of each party to be in each district. Now, with a severely reduced House the majority leader is totally in charge and completely dictates all legislation. Every member is dependent on him for election funds because the special interests go through him to fund candidates. If you don't vote as he wished you are out next election. Corruption has increased as a result and Quinn used this to rise to power.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:47 PM
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37. He publicly and openly backed a political initiative? You have a strange definition of corruption.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 07:45 PM
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40. Not strange at all
He knew what the end result was going to be and was warned at the time. He didn't care as long as he gained political power as a result. The people be damned.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:49 PM
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16. So Durbin and Quinn are corrupt, because they are white. And it does not matter that Burris is,
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 05:51 PM by Occam Bandage
because white people are too. Those are rather racist claims.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:02 PM
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22. Where is your evidence Burris is corrupt?
Still waiting for Fitzmas I guess. Never going to happen. What I said, if you read the posts, is that Burris should not listen to hypocrites.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:46 PM
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36. He has changed his alibi multiple times. This does not concern you, apparently because
he is not white and therefore is not assumed to be corrupt.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 07:50 PM
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42. Not my point.
My point is that Burris should ignore whites in Illinois/Chicago telling him to resign when they turn a blind eye to the corruption all others and say nothing and do nothing. Why is that? Why do contractors in Illinois give white politicians millions in campaign contributions but would give Burris nothing. He has no money. What is the difference? Oh I know, you think they give to whites because of their interest in good government and don't give to Burris because he is soooo corrupt.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:34 PM
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5. Your post ignores that Durbin was the FIRST to push Obama to run
If he was the least bit racist - that wouldn't have happened. Nothing in Durbin's own record shows corruption. The problem is NOT that Burris is black - but that he didn't tell the whole truth under oath - at a time that the issue with Blago was corruption. YOU know no shame - Durbin is an honorable Senator and a man of integrity.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:23 PM
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8. You know nothing about the right wing Daley machine
which put Durbin into power. You excuse their corruption.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:41 PM
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12. I grew up 27 miles out of Chicago
My parents thought it hilarious when my sisters and I making up plays with a "showboat" puppet stage had the mayor daily at first refuse to let the boat dock. We were all less than about 9 years old then. (They did explain that Mayor Daley was a person). That was almost 50 years ago - so, yeah - I can say that I have known a lot about the Daley machine.

It is not a right wing machine. Durbin was not a Chicago politician.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:45 PM
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14. If you were from the city and were a progressive in Chicago
you would know that the Daley machine has destroyed every progressive in the city who attempted independence.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:01 PM
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21. They didn't destroy Obama
Durbin was a protege of Paul Simon, a pretty progressive Senator. He first was involved as an intern to Senator Douglas, who was not right wing. He grew up in East Saint Louis - not Chicago. After college and law school, he lived in Springfield - even farther from Chicago. His mentor in politics was Paul Simon, a pretty progressive guy.

Why are you making the argument Daley - when the man you slandered is Durbin.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:06 PM
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25. Your point is well taken, but I couldn't help but notice...
Springfield isn't farther from Chicago than St. Louis is. Maybe you meant this metaphorically. But I know enough Chicagoans who don't know Illinois geography that it caught my eye.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:12 PM
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30. I was a Hoosier until 1972 when I went to NJ out of college
I thought East ST Louis, Il was further north than it is - just looked at a map. I knew Springfield was way to the south of Chicago. So, thanks -- I learned something.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:06 PM
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26. You don't know Obama's history
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 06:07 PM by AZ Criminal JD
He tried to get elected against Bobby Rush and the machine slapped him down. They mocked him as an intellectual from Harvard who had nothing in common with Chicagoans. Obama then made peace with Daley and the rest is history.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:16 PM
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31. Did they destroy him??
The fact that the Chicago machine backed their own guy against him is not the same as "destroying" anyone. Given Obama's background - I am not surprised that his opponents fought him as "not from here" and "from Harvard".
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:25 PM
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34. They destroyed his independence
Which was my original point. He has never said a word since then about the rampant corruption in Chicago politics.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:52 PM
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38. You have a strange test of "independence"
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 07:44 PM
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39. It is a very logical test.
Are you willing to sell out principles to be elected?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 08:26 PM
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45. With you defining the principles?
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:40 PM
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47. Everyone makes their decision about principles.
Don't you have any? Did someone define them for you and tell you what they should be?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 07:45 PM
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41. Durbin isn't even FROM Chicago
I honestly don't think you've spent a day in Illinois.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 08:13 PM
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44. How do you think Durbin won his seat?
From all those Democrats in Southern Illinois? The Daley machine put him in after he was deemed safe.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 08:46 PM
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46. Durbin enjoys higher downstate support than most other Illinois politicians
Did the "Daley Machine" install Paul Simon, too?
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 01:47 PM
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48. Apparently you don't know his history
In 1972 Simon was the Daley machine's candidate for governor in the primary against Dan Walker. Walker beat the machine and Simon was given slating for a U.S. Senate seat for his loyalty.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:49 PM
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6. "white politicians"... You have no idea how you sound do you?
Keep em coming, you're on fire.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:09 PM
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7. Ethnicity has nothing to do with this issue. Burris is a bumbling
disaster. He should have never been seated and he needs to go. He doesn't even know where he stands on the employee free choice act....that is enough to oust his ass now!

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/02/organized-labor-mad-at-burris-over-.html
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:28 PM
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10. Are you calling on all Democrats in the Senate who are opposed to
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 05:40 PM by AZ Criminal JD
Employee Free Choice to resign? No? Where are your posts about them? I thought so.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:38 PM
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11. No I'm not but then again I don't know of any.....Burris is from the
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 05:40 PM by firedupdem
state of Illinois and filling President Obama's seat. President Obama strongly supports and even sponsored that bill so how does this nut not know how he stands on the issue? There is a reason burris never won a statewide election before. Again, ethnicity has nothing to do with it. He's a disaster who muscled his way into that position by being Blago's pawn and has embarrassed Illinois and Democrats. He needs to go and the sooner the better.

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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:43 PM
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13. You are showing your ignorance
Burris has won four state wide elections. In fact, Burris was the first African American to win state wide office. Don't get too upset about that.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:52 PM
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17. That was an error not ignorance...He won twice and never won
Edited on Tue Feb-24-09 05:56 PM by firedupdem
again...after 4 more tries at it. Why would I get upset about his one win? I was born and raised on the south side and my folks are still there. Burris is an embarrassment and needs to go. Please don't run the "but, other people did it" line. He should have kept his idiot mouth shut once he got in but couldn't because he's probably on the wire taps. He muscled his way in and he's dirty and needs to go.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 05:58 PM
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19. He won three elections as Comptroller
And one election as Attorney General. With my math that makes four. Even after some time you still couldn't get it right. Pathetic.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:01 PM
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20. twice meaning comptroller and attorney general....lost 4 after those
two positions. Your nastiness and name calling is really ignorant. You're pathetic and on ignore. Fuck senile ass burris. He's outta there.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:03 PM
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23. Ignored by anonymous internet electrons.
The shame! The agony!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:04 PM
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24. Why should they resign because of a position on an issue?
The problem is that Burris, who was not elected, did not disclose actions that he should have by the man who appointed him.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:08 PM
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27. Gotta back you up on that. Burris needs to go for not disclosing his discussions
with Rod's brother, etc.

His position on bills, whether I like them or not, should not factor one bit into this.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:09 PM
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28. I'm not saying anyone should resign
It was another poster who said that. Burris is being held to a standard no white Senator has ever been held to and he knows that.
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tonycinla Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:26 PM
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35. Not competent!
If Burris is anywhere near the best that a progressive Northern state can come up with to be a US Senator,we are in a hell of a mess.I don't care if his skin color is light green the man is obviously in way over his head.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 07:52 PM
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43. If we are going to put that microscope over everyone
Then alot will go. That is what we have elections for. Burris must resist the lynch mob.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:04 PM
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49. What a stupid response..you
obviously know nothing of Durbin but that doesn't stop you from spewing shit.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:09 PM
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29. B urris needs to go, and let the Ill gov appoint a good democrat
This is what happens when we allow delusional crooks to play racial politics. Burris was not even the best black man for the job, he was the one of lowest character who accepted it.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:17 PM
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32. Exactly! You said it right there. n/t
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:21 PM
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33. Dear Dick:
Thanks for making doing this today. Really helpful. Nice going.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:33 PM
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50. He should have just said no from the start
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 04:46 PM by politicasista
I am all for a diverse Senate, but Blago knew what he was doing. Appoint a AA man in Burris, make it impossible for the Senate to reject him because he would be the 4th AA senator since Reconstruction, get impeached and make him the fall guy in the end.

It's quite possible Senator Durbin is trying to save Burris from public humiliation. He did not deserve to be in this mess, but he stepped in the mud and has to take responsibility for his actions.

On edit: Your thread bashing Durbin, a good Dem senator is over the top.
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