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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:55 AM
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repuglicans Idea Of "Pork":
Education.

And the three pukes who wanted those billions eliminated from education because it wasn't for "jobs" I would ask how in the hell do you expect the unemployed to find work? Hope for the best? Trickle down? Who needs education, right?



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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:57 AM
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1. They hate anything having to do with education.....
They don't even want schools built or reconstructed....and screw those teachers and the teachers union!

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:07 AM
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9. It Seems That Teachers' Unions Get Screwed Worse Than Other Unions, Some
anyway. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not. If I'm right, what's up with that?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:57 AM
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2. Uneducated citizens are easier to manipulate
Keep em simple stupid, then you can tell them they must go to church every Sunday and vote republican on election day.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:04 AM
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7. Ouch! Nail meets head.
You're right - why go to college? Everything you need to know you can learn listening to talk radio 3 hours a day! The damn leader of the Republican party (Limbaugh) didn't even attend college.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:57 AM
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3. Just "pray" and "trust in the Lord" to find a job
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:09 AM
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12. Well that actually does work for some folks
but it doesn't for people who just say they believe and they pray. Those people are sham Christians, like Booosh.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 09:59 AM
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4. Judge Smails
"You'll get nothing and like it!"
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:00 AM
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5. Bernie Sanders just about blew a gasket a few minutes ago -
MSNBC's Contessa Brewer called food stamps and head start "pork" and wondered why they needed to be part of the stimulus bill. She asked him how food stamps will help create jobs?

He looked like he wanted to slap her, then proceeded to explain how hundreds and thousands of people are losing their jobs and will need these services because "in America, we don't let people go hungry and we don't let children live in the streets". He was awesome. She was an idiot, as usual.
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:01 AM
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6. Here in Maine, there is a lot of disappointment with Senator
Collins on this issue. We already have a statewide school funding crisis, so people across the political spectrum in my social circles are wondering what planet she lives on that she would favor cutting education.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:06 AM
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8. It's Like That Here In Wisconsin Too
Rich (public) schools get all the opportunity; smaller school districts get nothing. We just close, that's it.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:08 AM
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10. That's because they are uneducated!
The money for schools will also keep teachers on the payroll! What do they expect? The kids to sit in the classrooms alone?!
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:09 AM
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11. Building schools, printing textbooks, delivering supplies, teaching, etc...
sounds like job creation to me
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:12 AM
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14. Word (nt)
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:10 AM
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13. Cheap Labor Republicans.
More true now than ever.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:15 AM
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15. Suddenly they think ALL spending is "pork"
Education, Coast Guard, firefighters...it doesn't matter.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:01 PM
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20. As RNC Chairman Steele said, "this doesn't create jobs, it creates work."
Yes, he really said it.


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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:26 AM
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25. I hope Steele sticks around for a looooong time
He's so incredibly good for the Democratic Party! :rofl:
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:47 AM
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16. While money spent on education
will provide work for teachers, it doesn't necessarily make the students ready for work that might not exist. The state of Washington spent quite a bit of money on me from 2001-2003 to get me an associate's degree in computer network administration (after I got laid off in the title insurance industry post-9/11) but I never found any work with that credential.

We've got to create lasting jobs in our economy, we cannot just simply have people being warehoused in schools to keep them contented for the short term.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:51 AM
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17. Schools Are "Warehouses"? Gee Thanks; That Attitude Helps So Much (nt)
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:20 AM
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18. They're only warehouses
if there are no jobs relevant to the training received. At least if we're talking about vocational education, or really anything post-secondary. Back when I was in my last round of school, I thought I was pretty damned lucky to be sitting out the 2001-2003 recession in school, getting my life paid for by the state unemployment system. But it sure didn't do anything to repay the taxpayers of Washington State.

It doesn't make sense for people to have $40K in student loans who are jerking espresso at Starbucks because there aren't any jobs available for the training they received. Education for it's own sake is lovely, but in today's economy, it also needs to be useful, and having a job to go to that uses the training received makes it a decent investment.

Or, perhaps you think that only the employment of educators is the principal goal of spending money on education?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 02:52 PM
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19. Man, You Have Quite The "Attitude"
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 02:53 PM by Dinger
Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me. I guess cutting education is fine with you. Whatever.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:08 PM
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24. Only when education spending truly is "pork"
and that happens when we spend time and money in school for jobs that aren't there. I'm all in favor of creating the jobs, but just sending people to fill desks in school makes no sense to me.

Maybe it does to you, do you have a dog in this fight? Do you make your living from the educational industry?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:02 PM
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21. Add food stamps and head start to that list.
Who needs to eat? Who needs childcare? :shrug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:10 PM
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22. Oh I thought this was going to be about Jonah Goldberg
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:13 PM
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23. Anything that can't be privatized to the highest donor.
Seriously, I think Republicans hate government not out of ideology but because a) they are lazy and don't have any ideas on how to fix any problems, so they just think everything should be left to the private sector and/or b) they think government exists for the sole benefit of those who help elect them to power.
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