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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:35 PM
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The pundits are still committing the same mistake.....
that they made after each debate...

Although they praise Barack Obama for his news conference performance tonight,
they still had some reservation of how well he did.

I'm imagining that the public will be proven them wrong within the next few days.

According to Rachel Maddow, she found no soundbyte (did she even really look, cause I found quite a few), and there needs to be one! :wtf:

According to Anderson Cooper, the President did well, but did he wait too long? Could he have done more to get the Republicans onboard! :eyes:

According to Rolands (CNN), the President's answers were too long. Only for those with short attention span, like the Mr. Roland and others in the media. :boring:

According to Gergen, The President was excellent, but he didn't do "Fantastic"! :wtf: does that even mean?

According to Gloria Borger, He did well, but was it enough, she wonders?

According to John King and his maps, he insinuates that the President was being politically calculative all day today, as he will continue to be. Ye-ah.....sounds good to me! Meanwhile, John King highlights which politico can say "no" based on the geography of where they come from, and who can say "NO" to the Stimulus package.

Like Mr. Gibb and President Obama stated, the Cable Chatter Channels are behind the times when it comes to their commentaries.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:37 PM
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1. It's not a "mistake". They do it on *purpose*.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:38 PM
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2. It makes them look foolish.
which is why folks most likely tune in the the Press conference, and then turn back to watching something other than these idiot commentaries.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:38 PM
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4. Sure, there's always a downside. :)
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:39 PM
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5. I got news for ya...
Most people don't pay attention at all to the details of politics, especially not to the degree that we do. This is how you end up with Bush getting re-elected.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:49 AM
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25. I, for one, don't EVER watch commentators.
I mean, why piss myself off after watching a good speech/debate/election return etc. ? I can think for myself, I don't need those morans telling me what to think. And I'm not alone. We should all quit letting them put their spin on everything.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:38 PM
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3. Yeah, like they all learned it in
a backwards journalism school.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:39 PM
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6. If he gave short choppy answers they would say he's not answering
the question, or spinning it. They will pick and pick. I chose not to listen to any of them after the few minutes with Keith at the end. I know how well he did.

I guess they really enjoyed: strategery, the hate us for our freedoms, and dial up your internets.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 12:02 AM
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14. QUESTION: Did Bush really say "strategery" or was that just the SNL skit?
cuz if he really said that, wow
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 01:51 AM
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16. You know what? LOL!! I don't know!
:rofl:
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:44 AM
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24. It was originally the SNL skit.
But supposedly, WH insiders thought it was funny and started using it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:40 PM
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7. They just don't like
that Obama busted the repuke echo chamber.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:40 PM
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8. Its Bizzaro world. The idiots at FAUX thought he was great. Go Figure
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:42 PM
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9. Cause no one watches them anymore, so they can afford some truth!
:rofl:
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:45 PM
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10. They get their talking points at the morning meeting and...
fail to adjust if the actual events don't correspond to them. These people are "talent" (and I use that in the loosest sense of the word) they are not analysts. And it shows.
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:33 AM
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26. Think you're looking for "talking heads"
instead of "talent".

:hi:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:49 PM
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11. They are a mess Frenchie. This is what Joe and Barack think of these questions.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 11:54 PM
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12. I think you have some people paying close attention
and others that just see the highlights.

In my opinion, the vast majority of both groups have the same take away. Obama attempted to work with the Repubs, the repubs were only interested in obstruction, and Obama won.

The pundits are much like the repubs; following the same failed tactics. If this continues, repubs will have 30 Senate seats and Nate Silver will have his own cable news network.


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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 12:00 AM
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13. Neither Obama nor the media ...
understand the reality of the situation. Theft-by-profit has made the economy sick.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 12:13 AM
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15. I disagree. I only watched about ten of the talking heads give their spiels but I thought
they begrudgingly gave President Obama high marks.

Gergen's comments that I heard were saying that Obama won big and did the right thing.

If anyone expects these media types to fawn all over our new Prez like they did Bush and Cheney then they're in for a surprise.

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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 02:16 AM
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17. it isn't a mistake
They aren't making any mistakes, they intend to tear down the president. He did a great job. There was fair and accurate coverage from NPR, CBC and BBC.

Why don't you turn that crap off? It gets you all riled up and then you come here and beat up on us lol.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 02:25 AM
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18. What ever do you mean? I'm "No drama" FrenchieCat! LOL!
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 02:54 AM
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19. heh
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 02:57 AM by Two Americas
Really though, how can you stand to listen to those pundits on TV?

Don't doubt this for a minute - they intend to take the administration down. They aren't stupid and they aren't making mistakes.


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:23 AM
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20. I rarely listen, except for when I"m curious as to what they are saying......
I ocassionally listen to the "Cable Chatter" in order to know where they are with their agenda.....
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:41 AM
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21. ok
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 03:42 AM by Two Americas
That's good.

I appreciated something the President did a few times today - he immediately pointed out and then rejected the premise of the question being asked, and then re-framed it (to conform to reality, and not to some right wing talking point) before he answered. Democrats don't do that very often and instead just sit there miserably in the trap and try to answer within the right wing framing of the question.
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:45 AM
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22. At the end of the broadcast NBC coverage..
Brian Williams just went to Chuck Todd for a second for a comment(they were not going to delay their 9pm est prime time programming) and Todd promptly whined 'he was forceful but he should have done this last week'. I assume that he feels that way since that would have given them the opportunity to complain that the President was not being as 'bipartison' as he promised.

And of course, it may have saved a few Rebumplingkins from the shovel <-> grave thingie that Obama deftly tossed into their cesspool.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:42 AM
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29. And what should BUSH have done in DECEMBER, hmmmmm? Ask THAT, Chuck.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:51 AM
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23. So she's complaining about a lack of sound bytes?
The results of the election show the voters finally get it: substance over style.

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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:35 AM
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27. We don't watch them nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:40 AM
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28. IOW, Obama didn't make it easy for THEM to report! No slogans, no Bush-level vocabulary, no instant
polling.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:43 AM
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30. They need to step up their game
*snarf* yeah, right....who am I kidding? :eyes:
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:53 AM
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31. I agree with other posters: it is on purpose.
Republicans do a great job in making hay over small things and bungling big things while diverting everyone's attention.

The media is at its best when it is mucking about trying to find fault, not when they beat the street trying to identify real news stories. I don't even think some of these pundits leave the comfort of their offices to interview people directly impacted by the legislation being considered. They want their work done for them. They don't get paid for investigative journalism, just repackaging spin and secondhand information.
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