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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:22 PM
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Ohio Polls
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:25 PM
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1. Yes giving you regjional pictures as well
if yuo look at California the split is East West here, but overall Kerry has California...Ohio is very close to call
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:35 PM
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5. I'm a bummer
because I truly believe that in any state that it is "too close to call", the Buschco theft machine will kick in. They might not be able to pull it off in every one of those states, but...

Yeah, I'm pessimistic. When the news stations start hinting that it's all over almost two months before the election, you get this sinking feeling. I'm not saying I don't think Kerry has the votes to win. I'm just getting the sinking feeling he won't be allowed to win. I''ve still got some hope reading about all the young people who have registered to vote and the fact that so many people are angry and afraid of Bushco. I keep thinking that it will take Kerry voters coming out in blow out porportions to keep this thing from becoming another obvious theft.

Then again, I'm just really tired. :(
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:27 PM
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2. This is all good news
Don't forget, shrub only "won" by 3% in 2000 here in Ohio.
Voter registration is going thru the roof here, they are fixing the ex-felon votes that were screwed up in 2000 and I personally have seen a lot more support for Kerry.
It might not be a cakewalk, but Kerry has a very good chance here in Ohio and these polls show it.
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silverchair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:31 PM
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3. as a resident of ohio
this is nice to see. thanks for the information. i hope kerry can win this november.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:33 PM
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4. what kind of voting machines there? n/t
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:42 PM
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6. I Googled this about Ohio voting machines
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/09/14/loc_col1bronson.html

Wanted for voter fraud: 'Miami Chad.' Last known address, Florida. Rumored to be in Ohio. Description: Dimpled, can appear to be pregnant.''
I'd like to see that on the FBI's most-wanted list at the local post office. If someone doesn't stop him, "Chad'' could be back in November to foul up the election again. And Ohio could be the Fallujah hotbed of election-lawyer terrorism.

The ACLU already has filed a lawsuit against Ohio, Hamilton County and three other counties in the state, claiming that punch-card voting caused 3,000 spoiled ballots in Hamilton County and 93,000 statewide in the 2000 election.

Even 93,000 is within the slack allowed by election guidelines. But the lawyers must be drooling. Three-quarters of Ohio voters use punch cards that won't be replaced by electronic voting machines until 2005.

<<snip>>
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:00 PM
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8. At least we can count the chads.
LOL.
Better chads than no recount at all.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 04:55 PM
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7. DO THE MATH
3 Regions

1) Northwest (Cleveland) … 4.5 million people. Kerry leads 52-39
2) Southwest…1.6 Million people. Bush leads 58-34
3) West … 1.4 Million. Bush leads 48-45

The math says

#1
Kerry 2,340,000
Bush 1,755,000

#2
Kerry 544,000
Bush 928,000

#3
Kerry 630,000
Bush 672,000

Composite Numbers
Kerry 3,514,000
Bush 3,355,000


Assuming UNDECIDEDS go 50/50 I have Kerry with over 51% of the vote.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:13 PM
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10. You can't assume equal turnout rates for each region
I'm sure the demographics (age, race, wealth) vary considerably from region to region. Different groups turnout at different rates. Unless you factor this in, you can't get an accurate estimate of the state-wide vote.
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:14 PM
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11. excellent maps
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 05:16 PM by Chili
...and very encouraging! But it looks like two regeions are missing: central and southeast. Central probably leans Democrat (Columbus), but the southeast region will lean Republican.

Will look to see if the missing maps are there or accessible to round out the picture.

Thanks for posting this, eaprez!

ETA: looks like the other two regions might be be shown later edition - will look for them to post them.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:37 PM
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13. Historically, undecideds don't go with the incumbant....
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:03 PM
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9. This is GREAT news! Bush was about 8 pts ahead in Ohio just a few
days ago! The bounce is receding! Yaaaaaay! (or is too early for that?)
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 05:14 PM
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12. Dispatch graphic goof
Maybe I'm not reading this correct, but doesn't it seem like the pie chart that reviews the 2000 results is backwards?

It says Gore/Lieberman 53% but the blue portion is clearly less than half. The Bush/Cheney portion is clearly more than half but labeled 43%.

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