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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:32 AM
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For Democrats, Best Choice May be a Republican
There doesn't seem to be much of a consensus about just whom New Hampshire John Governor, a moderate Democrat, might appoint to replace Judd Gregg in the Senate if Gregg, as now appears somewhat likely, is chosen to be Barack Obama's Commerce Secretary. The Hill is reporting, however, that sources to Gregg claim that he would not vacate his Senate seat unless a Republican were to be named in his place.

If Gregg's replacement must be a Republican, there is one name that would allow Lynch to come as close as possible to splitting the difference between the parties. That name is that of former State Representative Liz Hager, who has admitted to her interest in the position.

Hager is a Republican and says she would caucus with the Senate Republicans. Beyond that, however, there is a lot for Democrats to like. Hager, after being primaried out by more conservative opponents for her State House seat, endorsed Barack Obama, citing his pro-choice position. She is also a proud moderate, as the Concord Monitor reports:

Hager said she sees the loss as a victory by the more conservative wing of the Republican Party over moderates. But, she said, she does not envision the primary winners prevailing in the general election. "Clearly, the people who are now in control of the Republican Party don't want people like me in it," Hager said. <...>

Hager describes herself as a moderate who is "proudly pro-choice, proudly pro-government." She sponsored a bill in 1999 that would have established an income tax to pay for education. She says her major interest was in "good government and efficient, well-run state government."

Hager described her opponents as Republicans who are "right-wing, anti-government and want to control social issues."

Hager said she's saddened by the low turnout, with the winner getting 395 votes. "I think a lot of people that have been associated with the Republican Party for years are no longer Republicans," she said.

Hager, a longtime veteran in state government, is a true Rockefeller Republican, the liberal/moderate wing of the party which, until recently, had a fairly strong presence in New England. As the Republican party has gravitated toward conservatives, however, and as the Rockefeller Republicans have simultaneously been co-opted by New Democrats, they have become a dying breed, their vestige only apparent in a few remaining legislators like Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine. Hager, who has become an active critic of the Republican establishment, would probably legislate to Collins's and Snowe's left, and quite possibly to the left of several Senate Democrats, probably doing the most to upset the symmetry between party and ideology of any Senator since Zell Miller (whom, like Hager, was a relic of an older political tradition).

Hager's appointment would furthermore deprive the Republicans the opportunity to claim that the Democrats had a filibuster-proof monopoly on power. And yet, at a time when their party is struggling to formulate anything resembling a majority coalition, they would seem to have little choice but to accept her, as her appointment would be the result of a Democratic President and Democratic Governor each having taken the unorthodox step of reaching across party lines to select a Republican. The Republicans could, of course, complain with ample justification that Hager was a RINO, but in so doing they would appear immoderate and intolerant at a time when the pretense of moderation and postpartisanship is the name of the game. They might also risk alienating Snowe and Collins, without whose votes the Republicans already lack the power to sustain a filibuster.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/01/for-democrats-best-choice-may-be.html
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:36 AM
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1. She would still need to run for reelection in 2010 right?
Just checking.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:34 AM
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3. That is affirmative.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:14 AM
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2. I think it may be a mistake to try to bargain with the devil...
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 02:20 AM by BrklynLiberal
Such dealings are often referred to as "Faustian bargains", and as such there is usually short term gain (e.g. fame, fortune, knowledge) for long term pain


If this guy is putting conditions on his accepting the appointment....buy-bye!!!

How is this different in intent than what Gov Blagejovich got impeached for?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:25 AM
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4. I think the best choice would be Paul Hodes
or maybe Carol Shea Porter. If we're going to give Commerce to a Republican, I want 60 votes in the Senate. Otherwise, there are Democrats who can fill the cabinet position.

We tried 'reaching out' and Senate Republicans sent Obama a message that they want none of it. I say we should return the sentiment until they learn what bipartisanship means.
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:35 AM
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5. While I'd prefer a Dem
having a RINO (as the Freepers would call her) who would cause Mitch McConnell heartburn daily, could be fun too...
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:21 PM
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14. I am all for giving Mitch heartburn daily!!!!!!!!!!!!
She will vote with the Dems on health care, equal rights in the workplace, rural farmer's issues, urban union issues,

New Hampshire isn't Texas, Republicans in New Hampshire are more moderate than some Senate Dems we now have.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:40 AM
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6. It's not worth it, then. Just wait 2 years and win his seat. In the meantime all those moderates
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 08:43 AM by w4rma
will either have to break with the R's against obstructionism or they will lose their credentials as moderates in their very liberal states. The guy isn't very good on a cabinet anyway and will probably leak like a sieve if he's so loyal to his Party as to make this requirement.

Besides, as noted above, this condition isn't much different from what Blago was doing with Obama's seat.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:53 AM
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7. "The best choice" is never a Republican, under any and all circumstances. Why do Republicans never
come up with such lovely bi-partisan sentiments?
Because they're evil, not foolish.
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brianna69 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:03 AM
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8. I would prefer a democrat
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 09:15 AM by brianna69
I don't trust any repug. Put a democrat there so we can have a veto proof senate. That takes away the power of the repugs to block key legislation. Getting universal health care passed is going to be a battle. Repugs know that if Obama passes universal health care they will be in the political wilderness for a long time. Aside from dealing with the current economic crisis, polls show healthcare is what americans have indicated is the most serious priority. The actions of the repugs this past week with the recovery plan not getting a single vote in the house, demonstrates they couldn't care less about what is best for the country and they know they would basically be roadkill if democrats create history by passing universal healthcare.The goal of the repugs is to obstruct any policies advanced by the Obama administration because they like Limbaugh want Obama to fail. Getting another democrat in the senate for the magic number of 60 would render troublemaking repugs in the senate powerless. That would be a checkmate move.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:57 AM
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9. Why do we keep plundering congresspeople and governors?
We fight tooth and nail to get a Hillary Clinton in Congress, then because there's nobody else in the WORLD who could be SOS, we pull her out and put her congressional seat back in play? If Obama keeps this shit up, he may risk his majorities and put his whole agenda on the bubble.

This is just trying to fill his cabinet with "household name" democrats instead of maybe people who have NOT been on "Meet the Press" who may still know a lot about a particular field.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:59 AM
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10. It makes no sense to pick Gregg unless a Dem is taking the seat
He's far from the best choice. There are several Democrats qualified.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:13 AM
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11. The best and what Obama wants works for me.
But is the better deal a loss of having the 60 seats?

It just will make it harder to pass bills at 59 than 60.

And 60 is a magic number. Hey and Hilary's age during the campaign! Isn't that exciting!
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:05 PM
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12. If she'll vote for cloture on the Employee Free Choice Act, she's ok with me
Although part of me prefers a caretaker Republican who would leave an open seat in 2 years. The problem with a moderate Republican like Hager is that she could actually win in 2010, and probably have a better chance than Gregg would have had of winning reelection. Just look at how much trouble we had trying to beat Susan Collins last year.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:23 PM
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15. Of course she will.
She's a liberal Republican... if that makes any sense.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:18 PM
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13. Well they can at least call bi-partisanship and that could be a positive.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 08:18 PM by cooolandrew
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brianna69 Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:25 PM
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16. The best choice is never a republican
They cannot be trusted. They need to name a democrat to the seat if Gregg becomes the commerce secretary.
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