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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:55 PM
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Dee Dee Myers: Is Obama the Most Famous Living Person Ever?
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Is Obama the Most Famous Living Person Ever?
by Dee Dee Myers
January 27, 2009, 12:47 PM




Barack Obama is the most famous living person in the history of the world.

I’m not trying to induce an acid flashback to John Lennon’s infamous 1966 comment, “The Beatles are more popular than Jesus.” But whether you measure fame in terms of saturation or sheer numbers, it seems indisputable to me that more people know at least something about the new American president than anyone alive, at this point—or any—in the planet’s existence.

Who else could it be? One friend suggest Muhammad Ali, another Princess Diana, and a third said Bill Clinton. Surely all are global brands with enormous reach and broad appeal. But all fall short of the man-meets-the-moment frenzy unleashed by Obama.

To be sure, the digital revolution has made this feat of fame possible. Not only has it helped the son of an erstwhile Kenyan goatherd to become president, it has allowed a current Kenyan goatherd to follow the former’s journey. And he is not alone. Exponential growth in access to the Internet, satellite television and radio, cell phones, and P.D.A.’s means that breaking news now reaches virtually every corner of the globe. At the same time, population continues to grow; there are now some 6.7 billion men, women, and children on earth, an historic high.

But technology and biology don’t totally explain the Obama phenomenon. There’s no denying that the world has been utterly captivated by the new American president with the international pedigree. His black African father, white American mother, Muslim middle name, and childhood spent partially in Asia make him more than the 21st-century embodiment of the classic American melting pot; his story makes him accessible to people the world over who might see in his life a few scenes from their own.

That someone like Obama could be elected president of the United States—with its unrivaled power and prestige—has begun to restore the country’s and the world’s faith in America as the land of opportunity. Gone is the hunkered-down defensiveness of the past eight years, the lock-the-doors, draw-the-curtains, load-the-guns-to-keep-out-the-bad-guys mentality that turned so much of the world against us. In its place is the restoration of that classic American optimism, eyes lifted to the horizon, reaching out across continents and oceans, not in fear, but with faith that we can help build a better world. It was no accident that President Obama’s first televison interview from the White House went not to an American network but to an Arab one.

As Obama himself has acknowledged again and again, he begins his first term at a moment of profound crisis. The road ahead with be difficult, as gauzy goals give way to difficult decisions, and people from Chicago to Cairo, to Nairobi, find reasons to be disappointed. But at least for the moment, Obama has made America cool again—and more than that, he’s made his own brand arguably the most powerful the world has ever known.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:01 PM
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1. all this elicits from me is a shrug and a "so what"?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:01 PM
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2. Probably, and I'm amazed that it's not going to his head.
Well, if it is, he sure is hiding it well.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:04 PM
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3. Who cares?
Lord knows Obama doesn't.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:08 PM
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4. Interesting. and what famous person has had his own logo...
that has become about as ubiquitous as Coke's or Apple's? Well, maybe Michael Jordan or Prince... well, Prince's is not really very ubiquitous...

I can't imagine more than a handful of people (in this country, at least) that would look at Obama's logo and say, "What does that stand for?"
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:20 PM
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5. Yes. He. Is.
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 04:21 PM by ClarkUSA
His detractors in and out of the Democratic Party hate this fact but they better get used to it.
'Tis all the fashion, I hear.


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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:21 PM
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6. Yeah, and it's amazing that for all that...
he's a humble guy.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:28 PM
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7. Come to think of it, right now in raw numbers Obama probably is more popular than Jesus.
I mean Christianity has between 1.5 and 2.1 billion adherents worldwide. How many people to you think are fans of Obama? Even if it's only a third of the global population, that's 2.23 billion.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:33 PM
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8. Wow......
All of that she wrote is referring to a skinny kid with big ears and a funny name who simply wondered outloud whether there was a place for him in United States' promise to its citizens? Who would have thunk it? :wow:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:49 PM
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9. What's Dee Dee smoking????????
The most famous living person EVER??????? The list of people who are and have been more famous is huge.

Obama's election is certainly a mile stone in American history, but to ascertain that he is the most famous living person ever is just not factual.

:crazy:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:28 PM
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12. How much time have you spent in the outer edges of the developing world
Don't mean to be snarky, just curious given your post.

In places with no television, newspapers, etc. there are very few people who are known worldwide.

From my experience, Ali and Clinton belong on the list. I would add Michael Jackson and maybe Michael Jordan to that list.

But there isn't a very long, long list of those who are known from Paraguay to Chad to Vietnam.

But I would surmise Obama is now on that list. I doubt there are many places on the globe right now that if one was asked to state the name of the US President or shown a picture of him, wouldn't know.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:41 PM
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15. I happen to come from a family of diplomats
and have lived and gone to school in various countries. I still travel a lot since I have family and friends in several continents.

We see things through our own prism. Obama is definitely hugely popular overseas, but to state that he's the most famous living person ever is just plain ridiculous.

:eyes:
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:39 AM
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25. david beckham or pele
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:55 AM
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28. Also Maradona.
Pele and Maradona, the two best players to ever play soccer. Beckhman is more of a pretty boy IMO.

;-)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:04 AM
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27. I do think he WILL be the most famous person in the world
Whoever the American President is is a likely candidate for that designation -- if you are just speaking of name recognition. I always thought the claim that Princess Diana or Ali were more famous was bogus. They were, of course, well known - but I seriously doubt they are (or were) better known.

Because of the power of the US, there is intense interest abroad in who we elect - leading to comments every election from Europeans wistfully stating that they would love to have some input. My daughter had the experience of being in Sri Lanka for 4 months (spring semester)during the primary seasons. My husband, another daughter and I joined her for 2 weeks at the end. She was struck by the fact that people asked her about the election - both in Kandy, where they attended classes for part of that time and in a Moslem community where she did her independent study. It was in the latter that she was the most surprised. Her study included interviewing people who were refugees from the areas then controlled by the Tamil Tigers, who expelled the minority Moslem population which was neutral in the conflict. These were people with nothing - and the first question many asked her was if Obama could win - they were very happy when she said she was for him and she was hearing (this was in April) that he was very likely to win. The students, who had learned basic Singalese, found that wherever they traveled on the weekends - they were asked of Bush, Hillary Clinton and Obama. (Sri Lanka has had a woman PM - the wife of a previous PM - so that not seen as being as big a deal.

This is a third world country, but whether in Columbo (The capital) or Kandy (a cultural center) or in the refugee camps - the fact that the US was having an election was known - as were the three people likely to be President. The then current President was also known.

As a former British colony, I assume they might have known Diana, but I seriously doubt that a large percent of them knew Ali. (Just as I think more people in this country would identify Diana over Beckham in the years before he moved to the US - and part of that recognition would be through the Spice Girls.

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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:14 PM
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10. I don't think so.... yet
I still think that Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, and Kobe Bryant are more identifiable to a larger proportion of the global population. Kobe is the most famous person among Chinese citizens. Michael was the first global marketing superstar. And Tiger... well he's Tiger. I do think, however, that Obama will pass all three of these men by the end of his 8 years in office.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:54 PM
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16. Add to that list a few other hundred people such as:
Madonna, Michael Jackson, Queen Elizabeth II, Princess Diana, Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II, etc., etc., etc.

:eyes:
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:55 PM
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17. nah....
MJ, Tiger, and Kobe are more famous. :P
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 06:06 PM
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18. How about groups like the Who, Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead,
ABBA and the dearly departed ones like Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley, plus the slew of actors living and dead who have graced the screens of the world: Cary Grant, Elizabeth Taylor, Laurence Olivier, Clark Gable, Marilyn Monroe, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney, Meryl Streep, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks, etc.

In politics, I have never been to a country where the Clintons are not known. Up until Obama, the 3 most popular US presidential couples overseas have been the Roosevelts, the Kennedys and the Clintons. Furthermore, say just Hillary to someone abroad and more likely than not they will know who she is.
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:33 AM
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24. I don't know some of the people you mentioned.
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 05:35 AM by Cash_thatswhatiwant
and I bet if you go to some places in Kenya they wouldn't know who Meryl Streep is.

Honestly I think Obama may be more popular than even the Roosevelts or Kennedy's or Clintons. If we were to go somewhere outside the country and ask a 9 year old who is Hillary Clinton or possibly even Bill Clinton I don't think they would know. I think Obama is more popular only because he's probably more recognizable to people of a much younger generation. Given the public school system, it wouldn't be surprising if Roosevelt and Clinton aren't automatically recognizable to some elementary or middle school children.

Jmo
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:20 PM
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11. For those pressed for time: she REALLY likes Obama nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:36 PM
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14. She sure didn't during the primaries. nt
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:32 PM
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13. Wow...that joins the ranks of Roland Martin's article about
Malia and Sasha's smiles lighting the world or whatever. :eyes:
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:54 PM
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19. I feel like we are witnessing the birth of a new world religion
At first I thought this was just a regular election, but as time goes by and things just keep soaring higher and higher I really caa't see where the top is.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:22 PM
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20. If I were him, I'd lay in the fetal position and cry....
.... for fear that if I did ONE thing wrong I'd dissapoint so many people and that SO many people are relying on me.

Fortunately for all of us, he is not me.

I actually woke up in the middle of the night on 1/21 sobbing. I'm not really even sure why. But MSNBC was playing some of his speeches (I sleep with the TV on) and the dream of his presidency had slammed head first into the reality of his presidency and I just lay in the bed and cried. Again, I'm not really sure why. It was a surreal mix of joy and fear. It was very odd.

And pathetic to say the least.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:41 PM
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21. Michael Jordan may be more famous.
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 10:45 PM by Radical Activist
Which would make Obama the second most famous person from Chicago. Maybe third after Oprah.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:42 PM
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22. It's cool to be on the O-train.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:23 AM
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23. At Ali's birthday party
before the inauguration, his wife Lonnie noted that Obama has now become the most recognizeable person on earth. For several decades, it had indeed been The Champ. That torch has been passed to his good friend, Barack Obama.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:24 AM
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26. His reputation has suffered some
But Mao Zedong had great brand penetration at one time.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:19 AM
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29. Why add the word "living"? As in, "Most famous ever right now"??
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