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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:36 PM Original message |
The Taliban are Nazis and the women of Afghanistan are the concentration camp victims |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Another Bush Fail... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That is so true.. with that run into Iraq the Tali's made for |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
243. Women are killed, abused and mutilated around much of the |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #243 |
259. Afghanistan is not in the Middle East. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #259 |
275. When did Afghanistan move? lol |
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BunkerHill24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe we can replace the falling bombs with health care and infrastructures |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. the problem with that is that the Taliban |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. That is absolutely a start |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. The problem is that one can't do those things without |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
216. Actually the Afghans have run off the Taliban themselves in villages where infrastructure has been |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Why do you think those fields are there? Because the Taliban lends them money for seeds. The BCF |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. That's my point- the farmers are made through either money or intimidation to grow the poppies. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
277. Farmers grow crops for money. The Taliban are the only ones who will loan the farmers money to buy |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
85. Well, I wondered if the Russians offered to help us to wipe out the |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #85 |
155. That Heroin money helps keep the "Military Industrial Complex" oiled ... it's Necessary to KEEP |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
141. And that is what is taking place in large parts |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
193. What? You mean rebuild infrastructures instead of demolishing them??? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. The taliban add not one good thing to any community |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. No we can't Marrah.. we just can't |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. The thought of us pulling out of there and handing it back to the taliban I agree, is unthinkable. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I've happily rec'd this thread. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I don't think Obama is going to pull ot of there. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I agree, he's not going to pull out of there. |
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bain_sidhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Oh, those poor Taliban men! |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. For the non-conscript Taliban? I could probably get behind that |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. You may be sarcastic, but the Taliban was no joke for men, either. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. That is very true.. the taliban holds many men in its ranks through sheer fear of torture |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
146. Do you honestly believe that "The American Empire" that influences Obama gives a rat's ass about ... |
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Still Sensible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. Absolutely |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thank you for this! |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I believe that is because people do not understand the extent the Taliban go to. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I worry that people have allowed Bush's lies and war in Iraq... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I agree with you completely |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
116. Saddam wasn't brutal? |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #116 |
127. Saddam was brutal... |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #127 |
132. You have now parted with the OP viewpoint tho |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:31 AM Response to Reply #132 |
135. Touche. You've got me there. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #132 |
251. Show me one place I said in my op or any post on this thread |
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lordcommander (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. I completely agree with you peacetrain |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. I know you meant "narco-state" but just the same, judging by |
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lordcommander (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
76. Probably my spell check isnt good lol |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Just saw a way to make a play on your name... welcome to |
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lordcommander (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Thanks HysteryDiagnosis |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. The Taliban scare the hell out of me. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
20. Yes, the Saudis should make sure that the Taliban never takes over a country again. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I hope to God we are about more than money that we would let |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. We have no leverage left in the UN. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. There is a moral responsiblity here.. little girls getting acid thrown in their faces |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
84. Yes, there is. But it is not a moral obligation that demands US military force |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #21 |
117. They are growing because we are occupying their country |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. kick |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
25. Psych situation, too - there's one 40-bed mental hospital for the whole country |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
26. How many Aghanis should we kill to prevent the Taliban from taking over? |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. How many Afghani women being burned, beheaded and brutialized |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. The Taliban are largely afghani. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. See post 44 |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. That simply does not address the question. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. So you just will leave half the Afghani population to be brutalized? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Take their plight to the UN? |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Let me add this.. I have no idea what battle you are fighting here |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. I want to know to what extents you will go to impose your beliefs on others |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. The Taliban's record of brutality is not a "belief"... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
95. Yes and again: how many will you kill to prevent this? |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #95 |
114. It's not a question of kill, it's a question of defend... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #114 |
145. No it is a question of killing. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #145 |
163. I don't agree with those tactics, personally. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. Who has said anything about slaughtering the Afgani people but you? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. you argument is now deceitful |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #94 |
118. peacetrain is not being deceitful... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #118 |
144. How exactly is the UN going to do that? |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #94 |
168. Maybe others are not able to say it |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #55 |
110. All progressive forces were destroyed |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #110 |
257. Yup, the dirty secret that few Americans acknowledge, along with the fact |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #47 |
150. This reminds me of The Vietnam War. If we kill enough of the amorphous "THEM" everything will be... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
258. Afghanistan never democratically put the Taliban in there. Who knows what popular opinion was? |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #31 |
121. This is an outright lie |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #121 |
131. peacetrain is making a differentiation from what the Afghani's are, and what the Talibani are... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. we are not inflicting large casualties on the Afghan population |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. so how many civilian casualties are acceptable? |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
69. Sub-Saharran African women arguably suffer just as much |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
137. Maybe we should just kill all the men? n/t |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #137 |
138. The poster was using sarcasm... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #138 |
147. "we are not killing all Afghani people." |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #147 |
164. No we aren't. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #147 |
263. An Afghani is not a person. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
29. Thier reign of terror is only spreading, fuck the Taliban. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. I cannot fucking believe the pro-war fever pitch on DU |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. This is not pro war.. this is not letting the Taliban |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Exactly. |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
134. The same argument was made about Iraq |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. The prime argument about Iraq was that they had WMD's... |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
223. The UN is in Afghanistan |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #223 |
250. Actually UN involvement is minimal at best |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #250 |
253. Exactly the point |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. What I can't understand is the lack of concern for half the Afghani people |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Because that particular Talking Point won't fly anymore |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. No, they convinced people that the IRAQ war was pointless, expensive and wrong. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I've been wondering that myself all day. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. See post 44 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. it's not about talking points just because YOU say it is |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #34 |
115. We cannot afford to be an empire anymore |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. this is not pro-war. duh. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
182. I cannot fucking beleive that you Naive Pacifists are defending the Taliban. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #182 |
231. LOL 'Pacifist' as a pejorative is sooooo retro |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #231 |
276. Pacificism's fatal flaw is that you can't have a rational discussion with people that prefer... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #276 |
278. No doubt this is the theory behind Resistance to American Imperialism n/t |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
37. For once, an apt Holocaust analogy |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. That's about it in a nutshell. n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm an isolationist, so I don't really care about that. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
52. Thanks for posting. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. It is a horrific situation.. This is where the UN needs to be.. |
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rollin74 (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
169. We need to protect the backs |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
59. I just want to say again that this is an excellent, excellent thread... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. There is so much going on that many have forgotten |
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alwysdrunk (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
60. So that means we have to kill or imprison most or all of these guys |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I would imprison in a heartbeat any Taliban who committed those atrocities |
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alwysdrunk (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. You said it, the Islamic communities. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Unfortunately the Taliban is not a group we can compromise with... |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #61 |
129. Why would you behead them |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #129 |
199. What kind of question is that? Behead? Prison for those who have |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
64. To play devil's advocate, do you think we should invade Saudi Arabia? |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. We are already in Afghanistan... |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #70 |
122. So after we kill all the Taliban |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:18 AM Response to Reply #122 |
139. I never advocated killing all the Taliban... |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #122 |
171. First I'd try diplomacy |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
89. Benefits to women's rights similar or slightly lower, costs much higher, so no. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
268. The answer to that lies in another question. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #268 |
279. I'm not entirely sure the situation in Afghanistan is like that |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #279 |
283. I might have overdid it a bit. But I got the gist of it right. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #283 |
284. I think that's basically the case |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
67. You're telling us why they're terrible. We know that. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. That's a good point. And the Taliban is just one problem in Afghanistan |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. The Viet Cong did not do anything like what the Taliban did |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Yes, they did |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. That comparison does not work.. The Viet Cong were a political group.. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I'd say the Taliban are up there with the Khmer Rouge. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Khmer Rouge .. yep |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. And the West thought it best to let him die in his bed. A free man to the last. |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #78 |
109. Ironically enough who stopped the Khmer Rouge? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. you really need to read some history other than wiki - and even |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. One man's liberation is another man's fundamentalism |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. oh codswallop |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
108. Re-educatin camps are temporary |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. Strongly disagree. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
260. Sometimes it is very difficult for a population to overthrow their oppressors. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
75. I've been very anti-war with regards to Iraq, but with Afghanistan, I'm pro-war. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. OMG OMG OMG "We have to kill them." |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
93. Ever heard of a fair trial? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #93 |
140. Heaven knows the Taliban haven't (nt) |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
100. Many of the Taliban ARE the people of Afghanistan - it's up to THEM not US to weed them out of |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
92. I think if I were |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. I'm all for the people of Afghanistan killing the Taliban as much as they want. |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #92 |
130. How do you think you would feel if you were born |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #130 |
285. I'd most likely |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
97. I agree that the Taliban cannot be allowed to control Afghanistan. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
98. "The Women" in Afghanistan think of the USA are POURING salt in their wounds. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
99. I have no doubt as to what you say, but I wonder |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. The Military Industrial Complex will HAVE it's areas to set off bombs. They will have constant ... |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Question for you. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. That's a loaded (pun not intended) question. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. yeah |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
105. Any group of people who behead those who don't follow them are simply human vermin |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
106. Edit |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. OMG we created the Taliban to fight the Soviets |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. And what exactly does this have to do with what we should do now? |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #112 |
125. My point is History matters |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Care to explain why? Or are you just going to continue to make empty pronouncements? |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:15 AM Response to Reply #111 |
128. shhhh! nt |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:27 AM Response to Reply #111 |
133. You could just as easily make the argument that we should clean up after our mistake. N/T |
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alwysdrunk (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 06:37 AM Response to Reply #111 |
143. That isn't really true. We created the Mujahadeen, a different group |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
107. So you are basically a Neo-Con n/t |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #107 |
113. So you are basically the opposite of a Neo-Con |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #113 |
149. Ron Paul's foreign policy position and mine are very similar. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #107 |
120. No, neocons advocate reshaping the world for America's interests alone... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #120 |
151. What is humanitarian about bombing the countryside to kibbles and bits and bits and bits? ... |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #151 |
166. Can't disagree with you at all there. |
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Every Man A King (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
119. Still shocked at this thread |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Don't worry, I'm sure there are more people shocked that people like you call themselves Democrats. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #119 |
124. You should not be shocked at this thread, you whould welcome it.... |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 05:15 AM Response to Reply #119 |
142. In light of your obvious disagreement |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #119 |
148. Yes, as difficult as it is, WE, The American Empire, must let THE NATIVES work out their problems |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #148 |
152. sigh. what a crock of canned bullshit |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #152 |
154. No, TRUE. We are creating more enemies than we are killing. JUST LIKE VIETNAM! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #154 |
156. oh please. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #156 |
158. We would not be ABANDONING Afghanistan, but we must NOT be an Occupying Force. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. p.s. there's no need for the personal insults but that's so much of your MO it's almost passe. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. LOL. Yes, your "wake the fuck up, Cali:" isn't an insult at all. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. "Wake the Fuck Up" is not near as insulting as calling my opinion "a crock of canned bullshit" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #161 |
162. That would be a matter of opinion, dear. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. I'll see your two masters and raise you Intelligence, Military Science & one masters in the field. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
153. So what should we do? Bomb, bomb, bombs away! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #153 |
157. Presently: The USA occupiers and "the Taliban" are the NAZIs with "the AFGHAN people" |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #157 |
167. Nice pictures... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #167 |
170. don't bother |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #170 |
172. You're precious. You promise to not respond to me, but by proxy give another "rabbit punch." |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #167 |
174. Hello? Afghanistan is not one dimensional and neither is the Taliban, who are ... AFGHANI. |
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Blomst (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #167 |
176. Thank for posting the article |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #176 |
179. The situation in Pakistan is not good... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. That's why the USA needs to make like a sheepherder and "get the flock" out of the entire ME. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #181 |
185. With the exceptions of Germany and Japan, right? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #185 |
187. Apples and Oranges. Germany and Japan were homogeneous societies who had formally ... |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #187 |
189. The Afghani diaspora is rich with educated people who would like to return to their homeland. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Cue "Chalibi" ... they are no longer Afghani. It would be like when we and the Brits |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #189 |
191. Define "bad people?" We don't have any pure "good people" at the table - creating our own THUGS |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #191 |
202. Resentment because they are being called out for their |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #202 |
204. No, RESENTMENT because foreigners occupy their land. Nationalization trumps safety. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #204 |
208. I know Maslows Hierarchy.. and that is exactly my point. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #208 |
212. So you are going to go into every rural tribal area and tell them what's what? |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #212 |
213. The women choose them over us? what are you talking about? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #213 |
217. The Taliban are their husbands, brothers and children. They are Afghani. We need to encourage ch |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #153 |
196. Who is saying bomb bomb bomb away but you? |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
173. i completely agree with you |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #173 |
175. The women and children LOVE their COUNTRY. First and foremost, they want the invaders out. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #175 |
177. This Afghani woman must be so very proud of their Taliban sons... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. No, they are not. The solution(s) are horrid and less horrid ones for the good women of Afghanistan |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #178 |
180. Oh I definitely agree with you there... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #180 |
184. It's painful to watch and realize that it's not going to improve much for decades to come. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #177 |
183. and the problem is that quite a lot of them are quite proud |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #183 |
220. I highly doubt that. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #177 |
218. Those women don't have any say in ow their sons turn out |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #218 |
221. And we're going to save them from THEIR OWN PEOPLE? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #221 |
248. yeah we are going to kill all their sons |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #175 |
261. The Taliban is not and never was reflective of the majority of the Afghan people. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
186. The Taliban are a bunch of theocratic totalitarian monsters that need to be crushed. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #186 |
188. Yes, kill a raghead (Afghani) or gook (Vietnamese) for JESUS! That's the way. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #188 |
192. I'm an Atheist. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #192 |
194. For an Atheist, you've seemingly are all for "this quest" into oblivion. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #194 |
271. And I DON'T want such weapons in the hands of the Taliban. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #188 |
197. So the tribal women of Afghanistan, the little girls with acid thrown in their faces |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #197 |
207. You keep hyper-focusing on "the taliban" but our "smart bombs" actually KILL innocent babies and ... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #207 |
209. This is a matter of basic "humanity" no one is calling for the bombing of innocents |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #209 |
210. We'd immediately stop giving China "most favored nation status" if we truly cared for "humanity" |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #210 |
211. You have an agenda that I am having a hard time following |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #211 |
215. Hyperbole does not become someone of such noted intelligence. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #210 |
274. I'm am all for revoking China's MFN status and slapping massive tarrifs on them. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #207 |
273. You can't reason with fanatics. The Taliban doesn't want economic development. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #186 |
195. Christopher Hitchens? nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #195 |
270. I'm 22, so I'm a bit too young to be Hitchens. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
198. So who else should America attack? |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #198 |
200. So that is it.. they were born into it.. tough luck on their part? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
201. The Taliban should be the nightmare of the Western world because they allowed it to happen. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #201 |
203. I hope they do their homework also.. I hope they make a presentation |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #201 |
219. They cannot sort it out for themselves |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
205. When Mavis Leno used to talk about the plight of Afghan women... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #205 |
222. And WE (the USA countering the Soviets in the 70s) CREATED THEM! |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #222 |
224. The Taliban are responsible for their actions, 'taliban mindset' has been in the region... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #224 |
225. And Afghanistan is a sovereign country where we helped the early Taliban kick out the Soviets. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #225 |
256. You're suggesting that because Afghanistan is a "sovereign country"... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #222 |
227. You find that humorous? NT |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #227 |
238. I find that a truism - dark humor that the very people/system we created we now wish to BLOW UP |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
206. we can't rest until there is some help for our sisters in Afghanistan |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #206 |
214. The good women of Afghanistan do not want our help. We are their enemy. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #214 |
226. perhaps. however, there is a whiff of propaganda |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #226 |
228. Not really, would you want help from an occupying power? |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. lol - sorry but your words are foolish |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #228 |
230. You are trying to compare the brutalization of women in this |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #230 |
234. We are NOT an Empire. We helped create the brutal treatment of women by supporting the |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. Elephant tears.. the term is crocodile.. you might want to update your phrase book |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #237 |
239. OK, correction - to - Crocodile tears. I am not wrong, this is for Military Might and it is VILE. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #234 |
249. How can you say we are not an empire? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #249 |
280. OK, in today's dire straights, we should NOT function as "An Empire." |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
232. Then go fight the Taliban on your own time and money. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. So the women of Afghanistan deserve no help from us.. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #233 |
235. They don't want our help. Again, Nationalism trumps RULE of an Invading Empire. eom |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #233 |
236. Let's not pretend you're doing the women of Afghanistan any favors. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #236 |
240. I have realized more than you can imagine right now. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #240 |
241. I don't think you realize squat. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #241 |
242. You are so wrong.. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. The question is... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #244 |
246. You obviously have not read my posts...show one post where I have advocated war, violence |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #242 |
245. Thunderstruck... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #245 |
247. Eye opener to say the least! |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #247 |
252. yeah, i'm a little confused |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #252 |
254. characterizing Afghanistan as a genocide is misplaced. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #254 |
255. Here's my issue... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #255 |
262. I'm sure you think you have a point. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #262 |
264. The two drawbacks I have for this are... |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #236 |
265. Correct. The former Taliban and Afghanni tribesman that make up the current govt. |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #265 |
267. Show me where the Afghan's current government treats women worse than the Taliban proper... |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #267 |
269. Who said they treated them worse? You're fight is for degrees of oppression |
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JeffreyWilliamson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #269 |
272. Why have them vote or have any voice at all? |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
266. Analogy is absurd. What about all the women who agree with this treatment? |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #266 |
286. Can I have a link for that |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
281. The Afghans are a back burner part of the issue |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
282. I agree, but I think it has to be a world effort (including the Muslim world) not a US effort |
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