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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:07 PM Original message |
Poll question: Can A Small D Democratic Leader Be Successful Without Triangulating In A Pluralistic Society |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. We don't have a Pluralistic Society n/t |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not Really |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Then why ask if a (d) needs to triangulate when the majority are on the same page? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'd like to agree on a definition of "successful." |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I Asked The Question Because I Already See The Same Criticisms Of Obama That I Saw Of The Clintons |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. every US president has triangulated. Democrats have done it best |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, but it would be a hell of a lot easier if more people had access to the truth |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, but it depends on whether the voters support his/her goals |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. Is "Small D" code for right wing, blue dog, third way, former moderate republicans who have migrated |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. ROFL That's just sooooo hard to fit on a ballot |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. no, it's for "democrat" which far left wingers call themselves who have migrated |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Oh shit! Now I'm confused, am I conveying MARXISM or FAR LEFT WING ideology? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. you shouldn't be if you knew the definitions |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yes and you'd add PINKO if it scored you points. Truth is that this COUNTRY is LIBERAL. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. not at all |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Ever the scholar. So often you remind me of those AEI smooth talkers who come on CSPAN ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. do you dispute what I wrote? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Yes, I do dispute it because it is also open to interpretation. I don't agree with your opinion. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. so you don't believe .... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Hmmm |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Yes, let's just tell "all the innocents" who are killed by our intelligent smart bombs that |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. We Overthrew Mossadegh Under Ike And The Bays Of Pigs Plan Was Drawn Up During His Administration |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obama's not an ideologue. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
12. Push Poll Fail -since he isn't triangulating. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Who Is He? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. All I know is that if Bush had "triangulated" a lot more, he could have been a better president. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. He Triangulated When He Expanded And Privatized Medicare At The Same Time |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. There's no money left for triangulation and the military industrial complex is ruling our foreign |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. All I'm saying is that triangulation is the opposite of a "stay the course" mentality. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. Of course. Manipulation is not leadership. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Is "Trimming", "Splitting The Difference" The Same As Manipulation? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I don't think so, that's just head to head bargaining. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Re: Triangulation |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Pacifism aside, these bombings are a validation and continuation of preemption. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I Think That's What We Are Getting |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
35. yes, but for now this must remain |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-24-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
37. Oh God, make it stop. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:02 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Some Of These Responses Are Puzzling, Especially The Cryptic Ones |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
38. depends on the society.. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-25-09 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. Yes as long as he drops certain unimportant initiatives like Gun Control. |
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