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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:12 AM
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Who killed Bush Biographer Jim Hatfield??? "Fortunate Son" Interview"
Confederate General Robert E. Lee once said, "When you're too weak to defend, you must attack." And that's exactly what the Bush campaign did. This time it will be the White House. Actually, they've thrown everything at me but the kitchen sink, both personally and professionally. Also, like I said earlier, not one single statement in "Fortunate Son" has been disproved during the past year and a half. What truly worries me and wakes me up in a cold sweat during the middle of the night, is what one of my confidential sources for the cocaine arrest told me when it was announced that Soft Skull Press was going to re-publish the book less than 3 months after St. Martin's Press recalled it: "Jim, we're not done discrediting you. The wheels are already in motion for more of the same." Then he went on to say if I "valued the lives" of my wife and baby daughter (whom he called by their first names), "then you'll cancel this publishing deal right now, today." It makes you wonder why the Bushes so desperately want this book suppressed. What's contained in its 400+ pages that scares the hell out of them?


http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/2001/05/Jim_Hatfield_053101.html


Kitty Kelley anyone?


Hatfield died less than two months after giving this interview under exceptionally suspicious circumstances (alleged suicide).


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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:13 AM
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1. Hatfield
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 12:15 AM by oldhat
Hatfield was a cokehead and an alcoholic.

Hmm...was he assassinated by a shadowy hit squad on the orders of former CIA chief George H. W. Bush or was he just another depressed addict who offed himself out of his alcoholic misery?
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:15 AM
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3. so was Bush
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 12:23 AM by seventhson
nice try -- that does NOT answer the question

But I would bet on the former
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:14 AM
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2. What do you think they are called the **** Crime Family for.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:52 AM
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12. Or the Bush Family Evil Empire
Cuz dey is def'nately EVIL!

Seems to me a whole mess of scientists suddenly keeled over en mass a couple years back too. About the time the anthrax was going around. What was it 7 or 8 or more of the worlds top scientists within a years time?

Evil Evil EVIL those people are x(
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:17 AM
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4. Former Enron executive was found dead, apparent suicide
before he could provide information to investigators.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/01/25/enron.suicide/

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:29 AM
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7. that was a hit..
no doubt about it.
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:23 AM
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5. this is truly chilling.
They killed him. Even if he did pull the trigger on himself, there is no doubt what forces drove him to that level of desperation. What evil, evil people they are.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:26 AM
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6. hatfield left a suicide note with some very personal stuff..
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 12:30 AM by frylock
things only his family knew about. Was it written under duress? Who can say for sure, but before I watched Horns & Halos, I was sure he was greased by BFEE. Afterwards, I was pretty convinced he did it himself.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:30 AM
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8. I still say murder. They will stop at nothing.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:18 AM
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16. Five suicide notes
no inquiry

case closed

nothing to see here

move along

vince foster proves Bush didn't have him killed?


What about the threats against his family?


He was murdered.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 11:49 AM
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19. Doesn't anyone think five suicide notes is suspicious
especially when one is to the arresting officer?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:34 AM
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9. I said murder, but at the time
Jerry Politex from Bushwatch said suicide. He is someone who actually knew Hatfield, so I figured his opinion was better founded than mine.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:15 AM
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15. There was never any real inquest - they are all just guessing
But the facts of his death are classic coverup and a forced suicide.

I think he was given "Rommel's choice" : take these pills or your wife and infant daughter die too.

Fact is he had had his computer seized and had been in custody of the police only hours before his death.

He wrote FIVE suicide notes. Inclusing one to the arresting officer for letting him go kill himself.

go figure
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:39 AM
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10. But the Clitoooooons killed Vince Foster!
I guess we have our conspiracy theories too.
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 12:47 AM
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11. jerry cassalaro, 'octopus' investigator also killed by...
...a suspicious 'suicide'.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:02 AM
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13. I think they were all in cahoots but my guess is that it was
Scaife's final say so that had both Hatfield and Kangas taken down. That fucker is cut from the same evil cloth as the bush crime family and the rove family.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:11 AM
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14. I think the real reason they killed him was this (he predicted 9-11 on 7-3
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 01:21 AM by seventhson
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

He did not have all the details. But what he had was damn close.

He was "suicided" two weeks after writing this! 7 weeks BEFORE 9-11!

He said Osama and neoNazis would do a James Bond like aerial attack on US targets (he reported intelligence sources he believed were planted by Bush said attacks were to be in Europe. but so what)
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 01:32 AM
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17. Hatfield killed Hatfield.
That's all there was to it. He was a troubled soul.

You've got to read an article called "Unfortunate Con" by Mark Schone in the book Killed: Great Journalism Too Hot To Print. It goes very in depth on the Hatfield story, and it leads to the convincing conclusion that nobody killed Hatfield but himself. Any notion to the contrary is simply ignorance.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 08:52 AM
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18. That is total bullshit! The facts show that it was a likely assassination
Edited on Wed Sep-15-04 08:58 AM by seventhson
A political assassination to silence him and seize what info he had on 9-11 two months before it happened.

But I will read the article you mention if I get a chance.

I can't do a complete step by step rebuttal but I WILL say the following


Death threats from Rove or one of the other two close to Bush only weeks before his death threeatening his wife and baby daughter BY NAME. (see first post)

His revealing of the names of his sources (and thereby the name of the threatener) to his publisher.

His publishing despite the threats.

His arrest the day of his death where cops came with a search warrant and seized his computer. He leaves WITH the cops and is next found dead.

NO official or other inquiry.

FIVE Suicide notes; one of them THANKING the cop who was arresting him for letting him "go" kill himself.

The idiotic alleged scheme to defraud a credit card company could easily have been planted in his computer and sent out by smeone elese setting up the arrest and seizing of his computer.

No real inquest and his family was "afraid" of other inquiries IMHO.

The information has NEVER been investigated independently.

To ME, the most frightening part is that I believe he was murdered because of the article on Osama and Bush and 9-11 written 2 months BEFORE 9-11.

Did you read THAT article? He says that there will be a James Bond like aerial attack using planes full of explosives on US targets using neoNazis and Islamic fundamentalists PLANNED by Osama Bin Laden!!! He wrote this in JULY TWO MONTHS BEFORE 9-11!!!!

HE THOUGHT THE PLOT WAS FABRICATED BY BUSH TO BOLLSTER HIS SAGGING POLL RATINGS!!! But he sites European intelligence sources who arrested many in a sweep based on these threats.

WHAT do you think was in his computer that they wanted so badly? Do YOU know what happened to his computer? Have you seen the autopsy reports? Have YOU seen any toxicology reports? Have you seen what was IN the suicide notes including ONE TO A COP WHO HAD ARRESTED HIM THAT DAY AND TAKEN HIS COMPUTER???? THANKING THE COP???

Believe me there is PLENTY to conclude this was no voluntary suicide.

It was a Rommel's choice.

But where you have such death threats and a smoking gun on 9-11 - to dismiss this so facilely according to the official report or even amateurs speculating that this was suicide and writing articles toi justify that perspective is ignorance and dangerous sheeplike ignorance at that.

These Nazis will do ANYTHING to hold their power and to cover up their massive crimes against humanity.

As a criminal attorney who has worked on homicide cases and investigated both government wrongdoing and corporate fraud - I would say ANY conclusion that THIS was a voluntary act (killing himself) is without ANY foundation whatsoever and an independent investigation and inquiry is required before ANY absolute conclusions are drawn.

I believe it was murder based on more than thrity years studying the methodologies and techniques of fascism and blackops and propaganda.

Y'all can believe whatever you want.

At your peril.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-04 09:49 PM
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20. no takers, huh?
this interview, reposted today at buzzflash, blew my mind.

Threats against his family from Bush operaives AND still PEOPLE SAY HE KILLED HIMSELF?

I worry foir the future of America

one word: one name:

Santayana
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