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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:48 PM
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Ok, I must voice my disapproval regarding the "ethics waiver" issue.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/23/obamas-pick-for-no-2-post-at-pentagon-gets-ethics-waiver/

This is one of the first times Obama and his team have caused me to disagree with them. If we are to be truly serious about no lobbyists in our government there should be no exceptions.

Be honest, if Bush did this you'd flip your shit.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:52 PM
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1. Sure, but bush had no judgment;
I tend to trust Obama's judgment, and choose to give him a chance.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:53 PM
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2. It's not 'ethics' really, it's a lobbyist. I'm just not that worried. nt
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:59 PM
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3. I would agree that at least
if he was going to be put in an administration position, it should be one unrelated to the lobbying entity he came from.

At the same time, I understand the argument that sometimes the best person for a given position could be someone like this.

And on its face, a nominee for Treasury with a tax problem is an obviously screwed up situation, especially when there appears to be available highly qualified alternatives.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:01 PM
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4. I wonder about how they're getting around Daschle's wife
being a lobbyist - and doesn't she lobby for health care interests?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 05:42 AM
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10. Did he appoint Tom Daschle's wife for something?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 08:12 PM
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16. There is certainly the appearance of a conflict here.
though I'm sure Daschle's wife will have no influence on him at all. No doubt they have promised not to discuss health care or what her clients want with each other :sarcasm:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:08 PM
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5. Same here.
This is one of the few times I have found disagreement. Consistency on this issue is critical...if he really wants to claim an era of "new politics" has arrived.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 10:11 PM
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6. it's hard to believe that there was no one else that they could get
And it's an important area for there not to be a former lobbyist in.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 05:36 AM
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7. It just proves he can be co-opted.
He is a person of weak character, regardless of his qualifications as a manager.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 05:40 AM
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8. It doesn't prove shit about his "character",.....other than you never liked the man.
Next!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 08:55 AM
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11. Hot buttons are fun
Chains, chains, yank one and see who comes out of the woodwork. :rofl:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 05:42 AM
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9. "A person of weak character"
:eyes:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 12:30 PM
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12. Who do you think I was talking about?
Edited on Sat Jan-24-09 12:30 PM by formercia
It wasn't the President.

Assume= Make an ASS out of U and ME.
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skeewee08 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 12:39 PM
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13. I agree, this is 1 thing I disagree with, there has to be someone else.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 12:43 PM
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14. Although Obama assures us Lynn is a noteworthy exception to his ban,
the "appearance of evil" does reek and I think it would behoove Obama to not stray beyond the guidelines he himself has set. That said, if this indeed is an isolated exception and taking into account Obama's assurances, I can live with it with feet firmly planted on this slippery slope.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 06:00 PM
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15. Waving ethics ...
is nonsense.
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 08:42 PM
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17. Maybe he's the best man for the job
Intimate knowledge of the pentagon is not acquired by accident. Current or former employees of defense contractors probably dominate the small pool of people qualified for this job. I think 1) Obama really likes Lynn better than any other plausible candidate for the job and 2) he thought it was worth paying the broke-the-no-lobbyists-pledge price.

The government-lobbyist revolving door will not disappear overnight. Obama can make large strides in the right direction without going cold turkey.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 08:51 PM
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18. I'd really like more than Peter Orszag's "trust us" explanation.
"...said in a statement that 'it is in the public interest to grant the waiver given Mr. Lynn’s qualifications for his position and the current national security situation.'"

Uh huh. The more things change, the more they stay the same. This is probably a fluke and there's probably a very good reason for it, but still annoying.
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soccermomforobama Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:34 AM
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19. I think the "it is in best interest" bit has to do with Gates more than Lynn.
I think Gates agreed to stay on under Obama only if Lynn was made #2. If that is the case, Obama would have to grant the waiver.
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