Were people here flipping out over the soon-to-be-released Michigan poll?

[WilliamPitt]

Gallup has Kery up by 6. 50-44.

Everyone breathe.

P.S. Is this site cataclysmically slow, or is it just my machine?

[krkaufman]

1. slow... for the last day, periodically. n/t

[Pepperbelly]

2. Very slow ... they have a note in the lobby ... nt

[bigtree]

3. Bugs Bugs Bugs

Can our opponents slow us down by some linking technique? I'm getting my tinfoil hat out.

[Ducks In A Row]

4. All it means is Bush-Cheney-Rove will pull out some dirty trick

so that it doesn't get reported.

[IdaBriggs]

5. Yes.

I was personally having a bad day with some phone calls and a lot of pro-Idiot people. You can't BELIEVE how much the good news helped!!!

[BootinUp]

6. DU is seriously bogging

But Kerry is pickin up steam! HooYa!

fair trade I'd say. :)

[Carni]

7. Slow as hell AND if he is behind in MI

The chimp may be screwed...the county I live in is GOP as hell and even our local rock DJ's are right winged idiots.

[MichDem10]

33. Agreed - Drew and Mike BLOW!!

They are two of the most uninformed sarcastic morons.

[MoonRiver]

8. I didn't flip cause I didn't know it was coming out. Lots on my plate.

But it's slow as molasses round here. :(

[blue neen]

9. Slow tonight, even slower last night.

Michigan looks good. I am almost always positive, but I'm starting to get concerned about PA.

[DancingBear]

10. Ridiculous!

No one here at DU over-reacts. Ever.

Never.

Never, never, never, NEVER!!!!!!!!

Now just stop that sort of talk.

Meany.

[KittyWampus]

11. Flipping Out? ARE YOU REFERRING TO ME?

LOL
:D

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[MoonRiver]

13. "Our" side?

Whatever

[Awsi Dooger]

15. Yesterday we were told to ignore CNN/Gallup polls

Today they are relaxing tonic

We will win Michigan. If not, I'll be following gov and senate races much more than presidential.

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[Ruby Romaine]

14. Thanks! I'm so sick of hearing people give up! They are letting the repuke

noise machine control them! The Media has lied about everything else so why not lie & say Kerry is not doing well? Kerry will win if people show up to vote on Nov.2
Put this angst into work & register voters, canvass etc...

[michigandem2]

16. I was so happy to hear that! LOL!

I live in Michigan and from even local news..it is way different than the national polls...I knew Kerry had a pretty solid lead here...

here is hoping more of us fall in line wiht the truth!!! I keep chipping away! I talk to lots of people and MOST of the ones I talk to agree..BUSH HAS GOT TO GO AND KERRY IS THE MAN!!!

[TruthIsAll]

17. Will, I don't believe Gallup, they are using the truth as a ruse...

Kerry is probably MUCH further ahead.

Because, we KNOW that their agenda is the same as in 2000: to defeat Kerry just like they tried to defeat Gore by rigging the polls in *'s favor, especially on CNN.

They just want to give the appearance of non-bias in this poll. They will soon be back to their manipulative ways.

[Nicholas_J]

18. Yup

Whenever someone on CNN or in fact virtually any of the cable media outlets reports that a new polls is coming out and reports that someonbe is ahead, invariably, people go straight to the "media whores are going to support Bush" mode.

I knew the results of this polls much earlier in the day, but had no links to it, so I kept my mouth shut. There is simply no way Bush is going to win a state that has a very heavy percentage of its population in urban areas. Kerry has a very very strong lead in every city in Ohio, but he tanks in the rural and suburban areas, so depending on how much of the population in the cities get out and vote, and what percentage of Ohio is urban rather than rural or suburban, Kerry could easly be way ahead in Ohio without any of the pollsters reporting it, as they do not weigh their polling contacts by where the greatest population is. They call and equal number of people in every region of a state and so the rural areas get a far greater representation in polls. When you see polls from places like Cleveland or Cincinnati, Kerry polls far ahead of Bush and has done so even during the Republican Convention. A lot of polls have been skewed by this factor. Same thing is happening in Missouri. Kerry has a big lead in the large cities in Missouri, but for example, if 60 percent opf a states population is in 4 cities, they do not arrange for 60 percent of the randon calles to be assigned to be random calls in those cities. As a result, the areas with smaller populations are over sampled.

[gasperc]

19. hey, I live in MI, I bought a house pac

and been handing out stickers and signs as fast as I can. and I live in GOP Oakland county. We'll turn this GOP county and DEM AND, AND we will deliver MI for KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Booster]

20. GO, GAS!!!!!

[NWHarkness]

21. We will carry Oakland county

I have been canvassing Ferndale and phone banking the surrounding communities in the southern part of the county.

Take my word for it, precincts that went 60-40 for Gore are going 75-25 for Kerry. And I have heard that we are running even in the Birmingham-Troy area. If that holds up, we are in great shape.

[noamnety]

22. If we're running even in Troy/Birmingham

... then it's all over for BushCo.

[NWHarkness]

24. Oakland county is not the GOP bastion it used to be

Gore carried it in 2000, and Granholm did in 2002.

I think the real key is Royal Oak. It's been slowly tipping our way the last few elections, and I think we will have a big breakthrough there this year.

[Gregorian]

30. YAY! That is a confirmation on what would seem logical.

Kerry will get Gore voters, and more. Why would anyone who voted for Gore, vote for anyone else. And the Dems are so much more energized than the Repubs, that there's no way those previous polls could have been correct.
We won in 2000, and we'll win in 2004.

I can't imagine the relief when this nightmare ends!

[K. F. Gibbons]

23. Were doomed I say ,,,,,,,,,,,,,doomed.

[andino]

25. The only time I'll flip out or believe a poll is

after Nov 2nd.

[sonicx]

27. no, it was a gallup poll. whatever the result were, i'd be skeptical. nt

[Generic Other]

28. One Catastrophically successful poll for Bush coming up!

HeeHee

[59millionmorons]

29. I don't believe it

No, not that Kerry is up in MI, but I don't believe any poll from Gallup. They have proven themselves incompetent.

[ItsMyParty]

31. I didn't think we were in trouble in MI from the get go; so, no this

poll doesn't surprise me. Now, if only WI and PA would look better. We can't afford to lose any Gore states. I cannot understand what has happend in these two states. I won't breathe easy until I at least feel we are going to get back the 2000 blue states. Any new numbers on these two????

[RevCheesehead]

32. WI will go Kerry. Count on it.

Even the staunch repugs are relatively silent. The Milwaukee media is in frenzy mode....and hardly any * signs in places you would expect them. All pretty good portents of things to come.

Be sure to watch the turn-out for Kerry tomorrow in Madison...it will be packed! (And Nader is coming there the same day. I predict 3 balloons and a pet goat will show up.)

[ItsMyParty]

34. RevCheese---when you say the Milwaukee media is in frenzy mode

I assume you mean Pro-Kerry??......please, please tell me that's what you mean.

[RevCheesehead]

36. good point! LOL! It's hard to tell with Milwaukee, eh?

I've noticed the tone and volume of MKE radio (WTMJ) has steadily risen in the last few weeks. I think they suspect they're sunk, and are desperately trying to save the Titanic. MKE talk radio is excessively right wing, and not at all representative of the city, or the state, for that matter.

[WI_DEM]

35. That number mirrors Rasmussen which also has Kerry up by six

in Michigan.