Jill made a teensy weensy boo-boo?

[fadedrose]

She was telling Oprah, "..so I asked Joe, would you rather be Vice President or Secretary of State.." not the exact wording, but you get the idea....Obama had GIVEN JOE A CHOICE as to the position he wanted. Joe looked happily embarrassed and Jill got a cute "what did I do now" look on her face...

precious

[ErinBerin84]

1. oh well

This had been reported a dozen times anyway, it wasn't a big secret. I love Jill.

[Sebass1271]

2. Link please!!!????

[elocs]

12. Because we know if there is no link or no YouTube video, it never happened. n/t

[Yes We Did]

42. Yeah... Pretty much.

Have you learned nothing? The only way to be sure it so see it with your own eyes.

[NYC_SKP]

26. LINK here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TEzHMhuXyI

[biopowertoday]

51. thanks for the link. she did indeed do an oops.

[Captain Hilts]

3. I don't understand the hulabaloo about this comment at all. nt

[ErinBerin84]

4. me neither.

There are a bunch of nasty posters on Huffington that are taking this as a big gaffe or intentional swipe, but again, it wasn't exactly a secret and not a big deal anyway.

[Captain Hilts]

10. Huffington Post lost its sanity about 2 years ago. nt

[WCGreen]

48. Any thing that has to do with Arrianna Huffington has little credibility

in my eyes ever...

She supported the witch hunt against the Clinton's.

She is part of the problem.

[TTUBatfan2008]

6. Get used to it...

This will be the most scrutinized administration in history, thanks in part to the lack of vigilance in watching the previous bastards and thanks in part to the YouTube/blog era of politics. When the First Dog and Blackberry are such a big deal, you know you've reached "silly season" as Barack calls it.

[EraOfResponsibility]

11. amen to that

[NYC_SKP]

8. potential blowback from hillary fanatics...

that's one possible unpleasant outcome.

[Captain Hilts]

9. I voted for Hillary and I don't have a problem with this at all. nt

[GentryDixon]

17. I voted for Hillary in the primary.

Not a big deal to me either. She is better suited for SOS.

[NYC_SKP]

21. good,

It's said on another thread that this is old news, so all the better.

[endarkenment]

19. why exactly would they be upset?

[Hanse]

22. There's no logical explanation.

But that hasn't stopped them before.

[CTyankee]

28. I don't want to think bad thoughts but I had to stop and wonder at Jill saying this.

I doubt if someone of her intelligence would just "say" something without some reason. I thinkit was a gentle swipe at Hillary because otherwise it would make no sense. I think she didn't want anybody to think that Joe was passed over for SoS, for whatever reason.

I don't know why she said it. It could have just as well not been said and no one would have thought a thing about it. But she did bring it up so I have to wonder...we never know what happens behind the scenes, do we?

[Captain Hilts]

29. I just don't see it as a swipe at Hillary. The Clintons and Bidens have always gotten along well.

No reason not to now.

[CTyankee]

32. Well, there's got to be some reason for her saying this. What do you think it was?

She doesn't strike me as someone who is not serious about what she says...

[Captain Hilts]

38. It's probably because he was offered both. Clinton just wasn't suited to being Veep.

Biden's a good choice for either Veep or SoS.

I think she's just stating facts and I just don't see it as a swipe at HRC. I always heard she'd be AG or SC.

[CTyankee]

39. I believe that what you say is true. Maybe Jill just misspoke. I do not think she should have

said this. Not that it was horrible. It just wasn't something that needed to be said.

[ErinBerin84]

40. that's how I take it too.

We're lucky to have Obama, Biden, and Clinton all together now....as corny as it sounds. I think they all get on well.

[BklynChick]

5. I thought it was cute too. This is not surprising at all.

[NYC_SKP]

7. I LOVE that Barack had such a conversation, "Well Joe..."

I'd love to have heard that conversation.

Clearly, Obama wanted Biden in one of those two roles and, knowing that Biden had publicly said that he really didn't care to serve but would if asked, he was given a choice.

How cool is THAT!

But here is the problem with the leak. It can be made to look like a dis on 18 million voters. :eyes:

[Uzybone]

15. Its not a leak, its an old story

lets nip this in the bud before it becomes another DUrban legend.

[NYC_SKP]

20. good, don't need more grief.

next topic...

[bac511]

23. this oprah isn't a re-run is it???

She keeps talking about "tomorrow"...how is it old news if she just said it? and if it is, why would she say it again???

[NYC_SKP]

25. If in DC it was a fresh show.

Today at 04:00 pm KCRA (ch 3) All Upcoming Airings

From the Kennedy Center Opera House in Washington, D.C.: Demi Moore, Ashton Kutcher, Scarlett Johansson, Bono, will.i.am, Faith Hill, Seal, David Foster and Mary J. Blige.

[Captain Hilts]

41. It's just not a diss to Clinton. She's not suited to be Veep. Biden's a good choice for either...

It's okay.

[Jennicut]

13. This was a story in Newsweek like two months ago. No big deal.

Kind of funny how embarrassed Jill got though.

[panader0]

14. Wait a minute: Jill asked Joe the question, not Obama

How do you get the idea that Obama offered Biden the choice from Jill's question?

[fadedrose]

16. I think it was a "given" that he had a choice..

[endarkenment]

18. why is this even an issue?

what is the problem here?

[jillan]

24. Jill then went on to say that if Joe was SoS he would never be home.

Can't blame her, I'd want him home too :)

[MoonRiver]

27. I am so g.d. mad at this.

STUPID, STUPID, STUPID woman. And she's not stupid so I can only assume it was DELIBERATE. Which pisses me off even more. I'll get over it but my feelings about Jill Biden are in the toilet right now. :mad:

[ErinBerin84]

30. I think you are overreacting to this....

I'm sure it was an innocent comment, and she regrets if it offended anyone....but overall, I can't see how it's worthy of anger. If it was a "deliberate" swipe at Hillary, they should at least take Jill Bidens name off of the email I got the other day asking to repay Hillary's campaign debt. It had been reported before, maybe she mistakenly thought that it was known already? I can't see her doing it on purpose, honestly. No biggie. And I'm sure Hillary has more important things to worry about than a MSM created swipe.

[MoonRiver]

34. I'll wait until Dr. Jill Biden retracts her implication that Hillary Clinton was second choice.

She's a smart and highly educated woman. NO WAY did she not know what kind of snarky, and frankly bitchy, statement she was issuing. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on Dr. Jill Biden. :thumbsdown:

[ErinBerin84]

35. Jill needs to do nothing of the sort

The transition already released a statement about it, and her tone did not sound "bitchy" or "snarky"....again, I think it's more of the MSM stuff that they tried to use to drive a wedge against Hillary and Obama. Jill has always seemed pretty harmless to me....maybe she should have worded it different, but again, this has been speculated about before. I think it's unfair to call it intentionally "bitchy"....

[ecstatic]

43. I don't care either way, but I must admit it kind of took away something from Hillary Clinton

Made it seem like Clinton just got Biden's scraps or something. Jill seems like a really nice person so I doubt it was intentional.

[ErinBerin84]

44. I could have SWORN

that Joe Biden himself said the same thing recently to the New Yorker....like, a direct quote. And I tried to find it just now, but all I see is the stupid "Oprah slip" headlines. Anyway, I am convinced that I read the same thing....that he said Obama told him "Look, you have interest in national security, foreign policy. Do you want Secretary of State or Vice President?"

[Muttocracy]

45. here's the New Yorker quote - from October 2008

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/20/081020fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all

Obama also asked Biden whether he thought that he was more suited to a different position. “He said, ‘You have a great interest in national-security policy, foreign policy,’ ” Biden told me. “He wasn’t offering me this, but he said, ‘Would you rather be Secretary of State instead of Vice-President?’ And I thought a lot about that.”

Biden consulted with his closest political advisers, including Ted Kaufman, Mike Donilon, and John Marttila, all of whom have been with him since the early days of his career. “They convinced me that I could have more influence on policy as a Vice-President with Barack,” Biden said. “And so the bottom line of all of this is that I said, ‘Barack, look, if you’re going to ask me to do this, please don’t ask me for any reason other than that you respect my judgment. If you’re asking me to join you to help govern, and not just help you get elected, then I’m interested. If you’re asking me to help you get elected, I can do that other ways, but I don’t want to be a Vice-President who is not part of the major decisions you make.’ ”

[ErinBerin84]

46. thanks!

[Muttocracy]

49. I guess I'm 6 hours late to a dustup over it? nt

[polichick]

33. You're kidding, right?

[MoonRiver]

37. No. And good night. eom

[polichick]

31. Didn't Barack ask what certain people were interested in doing??

My guess is Joe talked with Jill about those two positions, and then told Barack he was interested in veep.

[JerseygirlCT]

36. Yeah, whoops... I said to my husband that

obviously Joe isn't the only one in that family with a touch of foot in mouth disease!

It was pretty cute, actually. And what I had always assumed was the case, anyway.

[Muttocracy]

50. considering people had been recommending him for Sec of State all through primaries/debates...

and the October 2008 article I posted below, no surprise.

[JerseygirlCT]

53. Yeah, none at all. nt

[Muttocracy]

47. No, see the New Yorker October 2008 - old news:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/20/081020fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all

"...
Obama also asked Biden whether he thought that he was more suited to a different position. “He said, ‘You have a great interest in national-security policy, foreign policy,’ ” Biden told me. “He wasn’t offering me this, but he said, ‘Would you rather be Secretary of State instead of Vice-President?’ And I thought a lot about that.”

Biden consulted with his closest political advisers, including Ted Kaufman, Mike Donilon, and John Marttila, all of whom have been with him since the early days of his career. “They convinced me that I could have more influence on policy as a Vice-President with Barack,” Biden said. “And so the bottom line of all of this is that I said, ‘Barack, look, if you’re going to ask me to do this, please don’t ask me for any reason other than that you respect my judgment. If you’re asking me to join you to help govern, and not just help you get elected, then I’m interested. If you’re asking me to help you get elected, I can do that other ways, but I don’t want to be a Vice-President who is not part of the major decisions you make.’ ”
..."

[rvablue]

52. Thank you. Who cares.??? n/t

[1corona4u]

54. See, the problem with people in this country is....

they are so use to things being obscured or lied about, or the truth being hidden I should say. Problem is, Joe and Jill are not into lying, or hiding the truth. I see nothing wrong with what she said. If we are going to have an open government, then we shouldn't be making an issue out of someone simply telling the truth. So what, who gives a shit what choices he had. He made the right decision for this country, and his family. When the truth is seen as a 'gaffe', or an 'oops', it's a sad statement to what a superficial society we have become; preferring subterfuge and clandestineness to the facts, and open forms of communication.

This was not a 'gaffe', or an 'oops'. She was telling the TRUTH. I could care less who's panties get bunched up about this.

[Maru Kitteh]

55. This Hillary fan believes they are all adults and I'm sure everyone is over it already.

No big deal. They all have more than enough work to do!