Did anyone catch Chris Matthews tonight pointing out Palin's using "Democrat party"?

[jenmito]

He did it once months ago, when the cross-eyed Ron Christie talked about the "Democrat party," Matthews said to him, "Why do you call it the 'Democrat party'? You know the correct term is the 'Democratic party,'" and Christie apologized.

Tonight he played a few clips of Sarah Palin, one where she claimed she would've been treated better if she was a member of the "Democrat party" and Matthews commented, paraphrasing, "By the way, it's called the Democratic party, not the Democrat party." And later when he played the clip again for Michelle Bernard, he asked her what it IS with people calling it the "Democrat party," asking why they can't use the correct term, the adjective, and her answer was, paraphrasing, "I guess it's like the 'nucular' thing." :eyes: I'm just glad SOMEONE pointed it out.

[MBS]

1. yeah, I was glad to hear Matthews call out Palin and ilk on this

I remember him saying, "Why can't they give them (the Democrats) the adjective?" Good for him. And Michelle Bernard for her answer, too.

[jenmito]

6. Yup...

he's the only person I EVER heard even MENTION the correct form of the word.

[roguevalley]

45. People use that term because it is one of the demoning terms that

Newt Gingrich gave out through GOPac. It is to demean and derogate, the fuckers.

[janet118]

48. Yeah . . .

It's a just one little right-wing dog whistle that I find aggravating. Not so much that the creeps themselves use it to show which side they are on. I'm cool with that. It's that no one in the media ever calls them on it or says, "So how do you feel about the Republic Party?"

[firedupdem]

2. First time I had heard someone call them out on that. Good! n/t

[Cleita]

3. It's about time, but tweety never called them out all the time the

bastards were trashing Clinton about the Lewinsky scandal on his show all those years back to the present.

[rvablue]

15. And he felt no need to call himself out when in 2000 he was the prime echo chamber for the RW smears

[laststeamtrain]

4. I nominate him for a Russert Prize for Journalistic Bravery.

:eyes:

[jenmito]

8. So he gets no credit for saying what he said? n/t

[Uzybone]

12. I really think Tweety does those symbolic things

so progressives can somehow think he is on our side. After belittling Gore for not knowing who he is and Kerry for being "french" and Dean for screaming and Barack for not being "ethnic" enough, he lobs a bone like correcting someone for saying Democrat party. Its pretty meaningless coming from Tweety.

[jenmito]

13. I disagree...

He is definitely on "the left" when it comes to being lied into war, the leaking of Plame's name, torture, and other things.

[Uzybone]

14. Those issues are mainstream positions now

He would have to be less than human to take up a position supporting torture. His sexism regarding Hillary was unsurpassed. The asshole voted for Bush in 2000, and Steele in 2006.

[jenmito]

20. Not to Repubs...

which many people claim he is. I believe he's more of a Dem. or an Independent. And he was all OVER the Scooter Libby case.

[rvablue]

16. Was he "on the left" when he pulled the lever for Bush, as he admitted on his show 5/27/05??

[jenmito]

21. No. But now, yes.

[rvablue]

26. We'll see how much you want to stand beside that now that he's resigned with MSNBC. Bookmarked! n/t

[jenmito]

29. He has not resigned from MSNBC. n/t

[rvablue]

42. I noticed that as soon as I did it and should have clarified, meant re-signed as in a contract, not

resigned as in leaving.

Gotta go check the dictionary on that one, I guess.

[jenmito]

43. OK then. I'm sure he'll remain the person he is now. n/t

[CreekDog]

24. i don't think he does it for political reasons

he does it because it leaves his guests stammering. it is a legitimate point to make and perhaps it is an annoyance to him that word games are being played to manipulate the audience. but if you wonder why he points this out and you think it may be self serving, then think how it makes him look to his audience: sharp, quick and not letting the audience get played. Also, it's worth noting that his audience, along with MSNBC's has gotten more liberal, as the country has, but also as Olbermann and Maddow's viewers (hopefully) watch him. thus, he is catering to the new audience.

remember also that whatever these hosts do, they have producers and managers advising them and researching what their ratings are and what their audiences want.

[laststeamtrain]

17. No. He's got a lot of debits to work off before he gets credits.

He was sooo horrid in the lead-up to & early days of the invasion & occupation of Iraq.

He said, "We're all neocons now". Hard to forgive.

He had a man-crush on Bush. It was gross.

[rvablue]

27. It was more than a man crush....he voted for the Shrub! n/t

[CTyankee]

25. Oh yeah, now how brave is it? Uh huh...now that there's a Democratic president who has an

unquestioned mandate.

You idiot...

[Clio the Leo]

5. I'm starting think that woman is not very bright. :-) NT

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. Because in some sort of malapropistic manner, they intend to

demean and diminish the democratic party/ideology by altering the proper verbiage... shame on her for plying such pithy means to achieve quite literally nothing.

[jenmito]

10. I know. And I'm glad at least ONE person in the media pointed that out. Even the

Dem. "strategists" never call out their Repub. counter-parts when they use the same slur right in front of them.

[last_texas_dem]

32. I recall some right-winger (at this point I can't remember if it was McCarthy

or Delay or another Repug "luminary") explaining that the "Democrat Party" thing was due to trying to make the point that the Democratic Party is not "democratic." (As if the Repugs are??) They've been making this grammatical "mistake" for decades, but it seems as if it really heated up during the Gingrich years, when the right-wing fringe became the mainstream of the Repug Party.

[Jackeens]

9. Is Chris Matthews a pundint? n/t

[jenmito]

11. Apparently so according to a quick google search. n/t

[kansasblue]

18. Bush used it in the State of the Union speech.

When pointed out he did one of his 'ahh shucks! I didn't know'

[jenmito]

23. I know. He claimed it was a

"slip of the tongue." :wtf:

[Cha]

19. Rec'd~ How nice of him to do that..enough

of that and repubs will get the idea that it just makes them look stoopid.:silly:

[jenmito]

22. Thank you...

for the back-up. :hi:

[rvablue]

28. Now some feel the need to "back up" Tweety...... who else?

Why don't we start a whole thread defending all of the people who voted for and touted the Shrub who now feel stupid about it.

OH! I know....why don't you start with Richard Perle who today stated he had nothing to do with the Iraq War!?!?!

If you are still sweet on Tweety...take a walk over to Media Matters and do a search on the 2000 election....it's a huge eye-opener.

[jenmito]

30. I think you need a refresher course in comprehension. n/t

[high density]

31. I guess it's time for us to start calling them "Republics," or preferably, "Repukes"

The Republic Party. The Repuke Party. Has a great ring to it.

I think this whole Democrat Party thing was brought on by right-wing talk radio, and it's been magnified from our executive branch ever since Bushco took office.

[last_texas_dem]

34. Yeah

Although I've heard the "Democrat Party" thing dates back to the mid-twentieth century, it seems that it really mainstreamed in the mid-nineties. According to this article, the Repugs made it part of their platform in '96, at the height of the "Republican Revolution," but have apparently decided to call us our proper name now "at least in writing."

Republicans: "Democrat Party" No More
by Calvin Woodward

>>>>WASHINGTON — Republicans have come up with another name for the opposing party _ the right name. For years now, the GOP has gone after "Democrat schemes," "Democrat presidents," "Democrat Congresses" _ all phrases from the 1996 Republican platform, repeated many times since. Twenty years earlier, Bob Dole famously declared that all wars of the 20th century were "Democrat wars."

On Tuesday, members of the Republican platform committee meeting in Minneapolis voted down a proposal to call the opposition the "Democrat Party" in the 2008 platform. Instead, they'll go with the proper Democratic Party.

"We probably should use what the actual name is," said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, the panel's chairman. "At least in writing."

In 1996, references to the Democratic Party were purged from a draft of the platform. As party leaders explained at the time, they wanted to make the subtle point that the Democratic Party had become elitist, no longer small-d democratic.>>>>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/27/republicans-democrat-part_n_121760.html

[jenmito]

35. "We probably should use what the actual name is," said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, the panel's

chairman. "At least in writing."

Thanks for the article. These Repubs. need to be called on it every time they use "Democrat" as an adjective.

[riqster]

47. Call 'em "Repubes"

...and if they object to the similarity to "pubic", pretend to apologise.

It's what they do with the similarity to "rat", which is where all this crap started.

[Skittles]

33. thank you Chris Matthews

[Jennicut]

36. At least Tweety makes fools of the Rethugs on occasion

Its more than I can hope for

[jenmito]

37. Yes, he does...

I really believe he just love politics and says what he believes, some of which we like, some of which we don't.

[Jennicut]

38. Tweety is an overexcited nutball but I like him

He talks without thinking sometimes but I don't take him seriously. He is better then a lot of what is out there.

[jenmito]

39. I agree...

He seems to speak faster than his mind can think at times. But I think he says what he believes.

[Poiuyt]

40. It is NOT like "nucular." Conservatives say it by design

Republican pollster Frank Lutz determined that the term "democratic" has a good connotation with the American public. While "Democrat Party" had been used in the past, Newt Gingrich really pushed it into the conservative talking points so that America would not feel good about the Democratic Party.

[jenmito]

41. It sure isn't...

but Michelle Bernard calls herself "right of center." Apples and oranges, "nucular" and "Democrat party."

[jenmito]

44. "Chris Matthews believes his job is to make Obama's presidency successful"

http://www.jossip.com/journalist-chris-matthews-will-do-everything-in-his-power-to-make-obamas-presidency-successful-20081106/

This is from a RW site complaining about how Matthews is so "in the tank" for Obama. It's a transcript and video of him in support of Obama while talking to Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe.

[jhain]

46. Sure did!

He comes through on the right side every so often.

[stevenleser]

49. I like the Tweety of the last 2-3 years, but...

the Tweety from 1998-2005 was horrific. He piled on Clinton, had an insane man-crush on Bush such that he lost any value as a member of the media charged with trying to keep politicians honest.

As much as you can sense anything like this from watching a pundit on tv, I think he realizes the mistakes he made and is trying to make up for them.

[JerseygirlCT]

50. I think Michelle was joking - to me, she seemed to be in complete

agreement with Chris.

And yes, I'm always glad when that silliness is pointed out.

But I'd be even more glad if I never had to see Palin's face or hear her voice again.

[peaches2003]

51. However, other than calling her down on 'Democratic'

Chris was positively having an orgasm about everything else he said about her. Everything else was positive, she's terrific, she's so natural, etc. You could see him undressing her with everything else he said about her. He does that quite often with women.

[ErinBerin84]

52. that was weird

because Chris Matthews showed the exact same clips of Palin yesterday, and had a negative view on it. Today, he was going on and on about how she was such a "natural", tried to say that her "approval ratings were at 80%" and that "She knows exactly what she is doing, she keeps up with reading"etc. The other guests were not buying his bullshit.