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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:40 PM
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President-Elect Obama's a big boy, he can take the criticism... can we?
All right, in the past two months the buzz from the election has worn off, and the beginning of the brutal post-Bush hangover has begun. Instead of the angry opposition, Democrats will now be the governing party. As such, we get the all the baggage that goes along with leadership, including opposition from a party that frankly, is good at little else but criticizing their opponents.

However, to lead is to be criticized not only from one's enemies, but from one's own as well. In the coming four years we can expect many other voices added to the current chorus currently manned by Michael Moore, Anne Hathaway, and Dennis Kucinich. Some of these will be respected political figures with considerable experience. Some, will be amateurs and dilletantes, who have a place in the public eye, an opinion and a the courage to voice it. Judging from President Obama's performance on the campaign trail and during his transition, he is not bothered by such criticisms, indeed he seems to welcome them.

I find the current criticism of Anne Hathaway on DU particularly interesting. Had she voiced these opinions about President Bush and been attacked by the right for them, I have no doubt that there would be no lack of support and defense lavished on her by DUers. But now, as this critique (and a truly mild critique it is indeed) has been leveled against one of our own, there is no end to ad hominem attacks, snarky judgments and accusations of her being a closeted freeper.

Are we really that paranoid? Do we really think that President Obama is so weak, vulnerable and incompetent that any and all criticism of him must be silenced and ridiculed in order to protect him from the very people he has been elected to govern? Folks, please. To begin with, most criticisms leveled by celebrities are hardly taken seriously anyway, (even if they are leveled by lovely young women with sparkling eyes and glowing smiles... ahem, but I digress.) furthermore, if Michael Moore did not criticize President Obama for falling short of Mr. Moore's expectations, then he would be every bit the hypocrite that the right accuses him of being. The same could be said for Congressman Kucinich, for whom no amount of cajoling or shushing will make him be silent on the issues dear to him. Indeed, if it did I would not respect him as much as I do, even if I disagree with him at times.

President Obama knew what he was getting into when he started running for the job. He realized that, as a centrist, he would be exposing himself to criticism from both the right and left. He can deal with it, so can we.
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:43 PM
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1. Well said...k& R/d n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:49 PM
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2. Personality Politics
Some people here get into it, some don't. The important thing is to refuse to be distracted by them that do.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:51 PM
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3. Surely though, if the bat-boy held elective office...
You would take these criticisms personally?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:55 PM
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6. He would if he ran for office against P'Lod, the space alien...
who, last I heard, was having an affair with Hillary Clinton "he has a 21 inch tongue and understands Hillary as Bill never did."
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:57 PM
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7. It would be the first time the Weekly World News could be considered a credible source
for political news

:scared:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:05 PM
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11. Depends
On whether they were bitching about policy or about funky ears.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:08 PM
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12. Yeah, you gotta look out for that "funky ear" lobby. Bigots, all of 'em
;)
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:52 PM
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4. I've seen her say things about Bush
and thought "I agree, still find her annoying".


I agree with her about Rick Warren, and still thought "I agree, still find her annoying".

I'm glad she answered honestly, but at the same time, she didn't really say more than what is said here, I am more interested in the opinions of DUers than one sentence from a celebrity. But again, more power to her.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:58 PM
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8. I can see that.
At least she is consistently annoying.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:53 PM
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5. People take things very personally on behalf of whom they support.
The whole DiFi-Burris and DiFi-Panetta fracas is an example

And, in both cases, Di-Fi-Burris, Panetta, etc. all kissed and made up and took the 'personal' out of it.

Folks here should do the same, but personal vendettas, feuds and conspiracy theories are more fun I guess.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:59 PM
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9. My only criticism of Hathaway is that you put her in the same league of Moore and DK.
Shes nowhere near their league.
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:08 PM
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13. Agreed, she falls under the category of amateur and dilletante as stated in the OP
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:04 PM
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10. Yeah, I can take honest criticism
of our Prez Elect but what I won't take are the posters with the hidden agendas who are using this board only to continuously gripe about him.

On Anne Hathaway..I posted, " Good..the more people who shine
a light on the ugliness of what comprises rick warren's view, the better.

National dialogue, baby."


Good post..we needed it.

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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:10 PM
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14. Such posters are always a problem...
But the real trolls eventually out themselves, they can't help it. As to the rest, well every movement has its malcontents, just look at Ron Paul.
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