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blitzburgh55 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:02 PM
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Report: Cheney Admits Crucial Role In Valerie Plame Leak
Vice President Dick Cheney, according to a still-highly confidential FBI report, admitted to federal investigators that he rewrote talking points for the press in July 2003 that made it much more likely that the role of then-covert CIA-officer Valerie Plame in sending her husband on a CIA-sponsored mission to Africa would come to light.

Cheney conceded during his interview with federal investigators that in drawing attention to Plame's role in arranging her husband's Africa trip reporters might also unmask her role as CIA officer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/23/report-cheney-admits-cruc_n_153157.html
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:02 PM
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1. Impeach! Impeach! Impeach!
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:07 PM
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4. With 4 weeks left
it can't get done....but....PROSECUTE! PROSECUTE! PROSECUTE!
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:11 PM
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5. Yes, it can.
They can still do it after they're out of office. Four weeks, plenty of time.

Threaten Impeachment = Cheney resigns. Bush appionts new VP. Bush resigns.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:05 PM
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2. But then he said, "So what?"
:mad:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:06 PM
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3. There was sufficient evidence
that would have allowed Congress to impeach and convict VP Cheney for an abuse of the power of his office, had they opted to uphold the Constitution.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:20 PM
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9. Uphold the Constitution?
It wasn't about a sex lie.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:13 PM
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6. I want trial for War Criminal. Cheney worse than Rasputin!
:mad:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:15 PM
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7. He's admitting to crimes inviting prosecution. I say we oblige him.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:26 PM
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11. I'm beginning to think he does want to be prosecuted
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 04:26 PM by tinrobot
Because if the prosecution fails, then the White House will have carte blanche to run wild with our civil liberties.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:25 PM
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20. I'm hoping his arrogance precludes feeling the need for a pardon and that
the investigation after Obama is sworn in concludes and recommends prosecution. Then he's shit out of luck on the timing.

There is a growing chorus of calls for prosecution for war crimes, specifically torture.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:27 PM
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12. He is also setting himself up for a Presidential Pardon.
Admit it now and "Get out of Jail" for free now and forever.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:37 PM
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14. That wouldn't surprise me.
Neither would a pardon for the convicted Larry Franklin or the yet-to-be convicted Karl Rove. It's the only way to guarantee that they will never be accountable.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:40 PM
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15. But pardons wouldn't apply if the ICC was trying them.
There's other ways they can be held accountable. State and local prosecutors can do it (see Vincent Bugliosi's book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder").

Accountability is possible. People just need to stop being so helpless.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:05 PM
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19. Bugliosi's book was my favorite book from 2008.
Yes, state and local prosecutors could try them for murder. But if Bush issues a blanket pardon as Ford did for Nixon ("for all offenses...committed or may have committed or taken part in") to anyone involved in Plamegate, AIPACgate, Attorneygate, etc. ad nauseum, then there will be no accountability for anyone save Bush himself. Since this would be unprecedented, I have hope that justice will be served. But considering how brazen they've been recently bragging about their "achievements", it is an uncertain hope.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:16 PM
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8. Kinda shows you who has been in charge these last 8 yrs. Bush
is a dumb puppet and Cheney is running the show. Bush is out trying to make people feel sorry for him and cover for his dumb decisions and Cheney is like "yeah, I did it, what the fuck are you going to do about it?".
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:28 PM
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10. Cheney says: "So?"
:shrug:
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:29 PM
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13. Geeesh!!! It's
Almost like he is daring us to hold him accountable...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:45 PM
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16. He's challenging people to indict him...
... so that the following set of events can get started...

1) He can get pardoned by Bush.
2) Bush than can then resign.
3) Cheney can take over.
4) Cheney can pardon Bush and the rest of the gang to complete their complete immunity scam before the end of the year...
5) They all move to Dubai to take over for Haliburton before anyone can in congress might try to pass any legislation trying to reverse these pardons.

You see, they probably have it all figured out. Unlike us, who can't even get off first base to put impeachment on the table where it belongED a long time ago!
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:27 PM
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21. Or this...
1. Cheney resigns for "health reasons" and is pardoned by Bush.

2. Bush picks someone like McCain, Thompson or Giuliani as a replacement VP.

3. Bush resigns.

4. The replacement VP takes over and issues a pardon to Bush.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:29 PM
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22. But that would be the kiss of death to the person pardoning them....

They could kiss their political careers goodbye if they did that. Gerald Ford lost too, and for a lot less egregious pardon than what might happen here.

If the cabal itself wants to pardon itself, then Cheney's moves drawing indictable attention to himself, which is what's been happening now, kind of makes sense. He really has nothing to lose taking over and pardoning the lot of them. One way or the other, if he's not in power after January through martial law/coup, he'll be overseas someplace, probably Dubai.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:18 PM
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24. Or...
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 09:21 PM by Independent_Liberal
Another possibility.

1. Cheney resigns, is pardoned by Bush.

2. Bush appoints Condoleeza as a replacement VP.

3. Bush resigns.

4. Condi takes over and issues a pardon to Bush.

Do you think that would be less politically damaging for Condi, unlike if someone like McCain, Thompson or Romney took over and did it?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:54 AM
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26. I don't think Condi would want to be left out of the pardon fest though...

She probably has some things to answer for too. And it might look a tad more suspicious if she got preemptively pardoned before Bush and Cheney resigned...
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:52 PM
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17. The arrogant bastard knows no one will touch him!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:53 PM
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18. Hes one bold SOB. Admitting to torture last week and now this
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:57 PM
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23. Is Anyone Here Truly Surprised?
We knew that in 2004. What's surprising is that he told the FBI the truth.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:09 PM
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25. He obviously knows he's going to get a pardon. The rat bastard!
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