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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:00 AM
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Is Rick Warren, or is he not, a DOMINIONIST??
The most disturbing thing of all about the Warren choice for me is that he may be a Dominionist ~ and a stealth one at that.


Some background from Rolling Stone:

"Meet the Dominionists -- biblical literalists who believe God has called them to take over the U.S. government. As the far-right wing of the evangelical movement, Dominionists are pressing an agenda that makes Newt Gingrich's Contract With America look like the Communist Manifesto. They want to rewrite schoolbooks to reflect a Christian version of American history, pack the nation's courts with judges who follow Old Testament law, post the Ten Commandments in every courthouse and make it a felony for gay men to have sex and women to have abortions. In Florida, when the courts ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed, it was the Dominionists who organized round-the-clock protests and issued a fiery call for Gov. Jeb Bush to defy the law and take Schiavo into state custody. Their ultimate goal is to plant the seeds of a "faith-based" government that will endure far longer than Bush's presidency -- all the way until Jesus comes back."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7235393/the_crusaders/


An article about Warren as Dominionist:

"The phenomenon of Rick Warren. Rick Warren has single-handedly accomplished more to bring about a public convergence between the three sects of dominionism than any other individual. Warren received his doctorate from Fuller Theological Seminary under the tutelage of his advisor, C. Peter Wagner of the spiritual warfare dominionists.23 Dubbed “America’s Pastor” by the media, he is now embarking on an aggressive marketing campaign to set up a model of Peter Drucker’s “healthy society” in Rwanda, ostensibly under the banner of missionary and charitable endeavors. Warren has launched a grandiose plan to “transform” Africa – to “cure AIDS,” “end poverty” and “fulfill the Great Commission.” Warren transcends evangelicalism. He easily moves in internationalist circles (Aspen Institute) and aligns himself with rock stars (Bono). Warren has audaciously called for a “Second Reformation” based upon his global P.E.A.C.E. Plan, which is a study in dominionism.24 Leftists who fret over Warren’s foray into AIDS25 may miss the more serious dominionist ramifications of his overall global plan. Warren intends to amass the world’s largest volunteer “army” of “one billion foot soldiers” to implement his global P.E.A.C.E. Plan.26"

http://www.discernment-ministries.org/ChristianImperialism.htm


Christian Paramilitary video game (creators linked to Warren's church):

"Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission — to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is “to conduct physical and spiritual warfare”; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life."

http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=7


Does anyone here know for sure if Warren is a Dominionist? Have we defeated McCain-Palin just to be faced with this again?

Is it possible that Barack has been fooled by this guy??
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:03 AM
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1. This is something we MUST be vigilant about.
Recommended!:thumbsup:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:41 AM
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10. Is it possible that Barack's people haven't thoroughly researched the guy?
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:06 AM
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2. He is DEFINITELY Rick Warren
:+
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:40 PM
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69. That is Rick...
with a silent P.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:08 AM
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3. What is the name of the video game? I have never heard of it!
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 10:09 AM by YOY
Unless it's talking about that horrible "Left Behind" game. It really got panned by every reviewer I've ever seen. If so "paramilitary" is a poor descriptor. It's just Jesus-nut-level of STUPID.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:46 AM
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12. Could be it - here's more info and a lovely image...
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:59 AM
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18. Um yeah. Totally panned.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/leftbehindeternalforces/review.html?tag=tabs;reviews

and paramilitary isn't quite the word. It hardly sold like hotcakes.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:00 PM
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20. Whether it sold or not isn't the issue - is it about Christians killing non-Christians?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:07 PM
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23. No. Just converting everbody wierdly mostly according to a few who've played it.
The player can fight against or as the "forces of Satan" though...laughable as that may be.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:29 PM
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79. It may not have sold well to the masses but it got out to the intended audience
My fundie BIL gave it to his oldest son when the game first came out. The young man was thrilled since he had never been allowed to play any video game before. The kid was enthusiastically telling me all about it - I was revolted by his bloodlust. My response to him was, "When did Jesus advocate killing people?" Since I am known as a non-believer to that family, I doubt I made much impression but I can only hope throwing their own Bible at them will make them think.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:36 AM
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81. Lemme guess. The kid is homeschooled.
Cos, anyone he brags to it at school is gonna laugh at him.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:59 PM
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85. Oh, yeah - the father is ex-military fundie. Mother was raised Unitarian
but got sucked into Campus Crusade for Christ. Even my other BIL who was a Repub until he got fed up with Bush thinks this guy is way over the top for wacked out religion.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:34 PM
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74. "Left Behind: Eternal Forces"
Product Features

* Lead the Tribulation Force from the book series , including Rayford, Chloe, Buck and Bruce against Nicolae Carpathia - the AntiChrist.

* Conduct physical & spiritual warfare: using the power of prayer to strengthen your troops in combat and wield modern military weaponry throughout the game world.

* Recover ancient scriptures and witness spectacular Angelic and Demonic activity as a direct consequence of your choices.

* Control more than 30 units types - from Prayer Warrior and Hellraiser to Spies, Special Forces and Battle Tanks across a breathtaking, authentic depiction of New York City.

* Enjoy a robust single player experience across dozens of New York City maps in Story Mode or play multiplayer games as Tribulation Force or the AntiChrist's Global Community Peacekeepers with up to eight players via LAN or over the internet!

Left Behind: Eternal Forces is a real-time strategy based on the best-selling "Left Behind" series. Join the ultimate fight of Good against Evil, commanding Tribulation Forces or the Global Community Peacekeepers, and uncover the truth about the worldwide disappearances! Wage a war of apocalyptic proportions and decide the fate of the world! Robust single player experience across dozens of New York City maps - Fighting in Chinatown, SoHo, Uptown and more! Play multiplayer games as Tribulation Force or the AntiChrist's Global Community Peacekeepers with up to eight players via LAN or over the internet
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:29 PM
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75. Yeah, I know. It's 2 years old and was in the toilet the moment it came out.
Nobody bought it save crazy Aunts for people who played the ultra buggy game for two hours and threw it in the trash.

See the other subthread for reviews. Totally panned.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:03 PM
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77. This is about Warren's Dominionist beliefs, not a crappy video game
Good for us that it was crappy, but it's the bad thoughts that count here.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:38 AM
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83. Tangent discussions: they happen.
n.t.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:19 AM
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4. "the Warren choice". He's giving the fucking invocation. Thats it.
Barack hasn't been 'fooled' by anyone.

He is simply playing politics with the intention of a great good.

Geez... while I totally understand the slap in the face this must feel like to the gay and lesbian community, I think Barack Obama is the best hope we've had to push forward gay rights in this country.

The reactionary's here are the very reason I'm losing interest in this place.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:33 AM
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6. Warren has been chosen to represent this country by speaking at the Inauguration.
It stinks.

He must not have condemned you or your friends to hell as he has mine. Catholics, Jews, etc. All going to hell.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:46 AM
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7. and a pro gay rights minister is giving a prayer too... representing the country also.
Warren is an unconscious vile person, like millions of others he represents, and those people think the same of the equal rights minister. What would you suppose we do, exclude them from the democratic process as payback?

Obama will break down walls with this move.

Let me guess. You think Warren is going to hell?

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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:45 PM
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28. So if you invite a Nazi, it would be OK as long as you invited a Jew too? n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:53 PM
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53. The giver of the invocation represents the country for the next 4 years
Not Obama?

Who knew?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:39 AM
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8. So the Dominionist thing isn't an issue for you??
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:55 AM
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14. You can be intolerant and not a Dominionist...
Dominionism goes far beyond being opposed to Gay Marriage and Abortion rights.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:57 AM
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17. Exactly - that's why it concerns me. Is he or is he not a Dominionist?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 10:21 AM
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5. Yes, he is an adherent of the dominionist heresy, but
we not supposed to talk about that!

It might spoil his upcoming coronation as America's Pastor!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:40 AM
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9. imo that's scary as hell - I don't know if Barack is just THAT naive...
...or if he shares Dominionist beliefs.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:43 AM
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11. I think he sees a good chance for yet another "Sister Souljah moment" here.
Funny how all his Sister Souljahs are queer, isn't it?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:55 AM
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15. This definitely doesn't inspire confidence in Obama's worldview...
If it's not only that Warren is anti-gay and anti-female, but also that he's anti-Constitution ~ then who in the hell is Barack Obama??
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:10 PM
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25. But Dear Leader says it's OK! n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:17 PM
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27. I just wrote to Dear Leader's team and asked: WHO is Barack Obama?
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 12:24 PM by polichick
I also asked if anyone actually researched Warren thoroughly.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:38 PM
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44. The Dominionist are scary as hell -- and many ARE stealth, as you say
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 01:38 PM by LostinVA
And, many place themselves in positions were they can be charismatic and try to "entertain" people, and soft-peddle their agenda. Warren, Kirk Cameron, Left Behind books, etc.

I was surprised when I found out Tony Blair had turned into a Fundie. I hope Obama is still UCC.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:43 PM
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50. Obama really owes us a press conference about this - we should be able to ask questions.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:00 PM
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19. Ouch
but a goodie.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:53 AM
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13. I have a list of Obama appointees who are DOMINIONISTS right here in my pocket!
Get a grip.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:56 AM
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16. You get a grip - it's okay to make an anti-Constitution Dominionist...
...America's Pastor??
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:10 PM
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24. Feh. Strawman alert. When did Obama make a Dominionist America's Pastor?
First of all, he did not make anyone America's Pastor.
There is no such appointment as America's Pastor.
It has not been established that Rick Warren is a Dominionist.
Rick Warren has not been appointed to anything, he has been asked to give an invocation.

I call strawman bullshit on you - four times.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:16 PM
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26. How do you think Billy Graham became "America's Pastor"...
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 12:18 PM by polichick
This thread is to ask if anyone knows whether or not he is a Dominionist ~ if so, it's much more serious, since Dominionists are about taking over the government. Get it yet?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:17 PM
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31. Eh - he didn't, except in the media. I got it that you are being a tin foil hat alarmist.
You say the thread is to ask if anyone knows whether Warren is a Dominionist - but many of your responses are worded as to say that he is. Which is it? You want to know or you want us to know that he is, in your opinion?

Oldest trick in the book, by the way, asking a question to promulgate an opinion. Well done. :sarcasm:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:19 PM
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32. What I want is for Obama's team to actually research this guy...
Why are you so afraid??
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:24 PM
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34. Of course you do. And I am not the one spreading fear here. You are,
Fear of the "other". Another tried and true tactic for those fresh out of anything useful to get stirred up about.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:28 PM
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36. Don't talk to me about fear of "the other" - my graduate degree is in...
...socio-cultural anthropology. I've written papers on "the other."

Calling out a group that has on its agenda the takeover of the gov't is a whole other thing.

You seem terrified of what could be a very ugly truth.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:33 PM
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40. And my graduate degree is in agronomy. What's your point? You are not calling out "a group......"
You are asking whether or not Warren is a Dominionist. At least that is what you said you were doing. I am not terrified of anything. I am laughing at your attempt to create a shitstorm out of nothing.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:34 PM
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43. Sorry, but you don't seem bright enough to bother with anymore.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:55 PM
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54. In other words, you have nothing. Whatever.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:40 PM
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47. I'm waiting for someone to call you a Hillaryite for bringing this up
Do I have your permission to laugh if they do?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:42 PM
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49. I'll laugh along with you! :)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:45 PM
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51. Deal!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:02 PM
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21. Warren isn't going to be part of the Obama cabinet and he's doing a prayer
If he steps in it, he'll have hell to pay from people like Aretha Franklin and everyone else involved in the inauguration proceedings.

Personally, the Warren choice sucks, but more importantly, I don't a rat's patootie if he's a Dominionist or a freakin' Martian. The guy is getting too much attention and free press...


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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 12:06 PM
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22. You don't care if he's a Dominionist??
"Meet the Dominionists -- biblical literalists who believe God has called them to take over the U.S. government."

~from the Rolling Stone article linked in the op
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:28 PM
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35. Oooh. I know! Let's tie Warren up, throw him in the water, and see if he floats!
If he floats, he is a Dominionist, or is it the other way around?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:07 PM
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29. What the hell is up with people brushing this issue off on this thread?
:wtf:

Do you all even realize how Fucking EVIL Dominionists are?


:wtf:

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:11 PM
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30. fear, fear, fear.
We're moving away from that, not toward it. When Obama won, the Dominionists took a big hit, and I think the jury is out on whether Warren is one anyway.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:30 PM
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37. * & Co pulled their terra terra terra bullshit because of fundie whack job religious leaders
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 01:33 PM by TheGoldenRule
such as Warren, Hagee, Robertson and Falwell and their followers.

Those fundie whack job leaders are the reason why people supported * & Co in the first place.

Those fundie whack job leaders are the reason why so many people bought into the hatred of Muslims and supported the War on Terra!

Anyone who is sitting back and expecting Obama to take care of things and that these people will just go away now that * is out of office is naive or flat out stupid.

Hell, that Warren is part of the inauguration is proof positive that they are even trying to get Obama on board with them!



Make NO mistake. Warren is a Dominionist.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8022615
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:34 PM
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42. sorry, I don't buy that terra, terra, terra is largely due to xtian "leaders"
It had a lot more to do with the neocons, who are largely not ruled by fundy beliefs.

Anyone that can't see that the dominionists are losing power due to the expression of the will of the people during the last election, just ain't thinking.

And so what if they're trying to get Obama on board with them? That's not going to happen.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:26 PM
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57. Those fundie whack jobs haven't gone anywhere just because Obama got elected.
In fact many of them like Obama because they think he is one of them.

FYI-Obama is already on board to a certain extent with the fundie whack jobs by allowing Warren to say a prayer at the inauguration.

And since this country was founded on the separation of church and state, we should all question the validity of Warren speaking at the inauguration, especially considering his Dominionist agenda.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:33 PM
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58. He is a dominionist. Did you see that one interview where he says flatly
that he believes the purpose of government is to root out evil? Maybe the interviewer was Curry? I saw it clipped by TYT's with commentary but, he put right out there.


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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:22 PM
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33. "We all" realize how some enjoy crying "Wolf!" when all that is there is a little kitty cat.
Meow.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:31 PM
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38. Being in denial or living in ignorance is your choice. nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:32 PM
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39. This thread needs a poll
I would pick "Who gives a flying fuck?"
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:34 PM
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41. Dominionists are about infiltrating the gov't - that's okay with you?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:38 PM
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45. I have plenty of reasons not to allow Rick Warren to infiltrate the government
Without worrying about his personal religious beliefs.

BTW what office is he running for?
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 05:20 PM
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73. not about "his personal religious beliefs"
That is a con, and you are reinforcing that deception. It is about an extreme right wing political movement, and a grab for wealth and power, masquerading as a religion and hiding behind the cover of "personal religious beliefs." Its advance and success depends upon deceiving and misleading people.

The religious right does not need to hold any offices to wield power and advance their agenda. They know better than that. They used the Republican party to advance their goals, that's all, and they don't depend upon any offices or political parties to seize more and more power and influence. They are independent of political parties, have built up an independent movement. Too bad we don't do the same, and instead resist any and all calls for that, and instead call for being "loyal" to politicians and a party even to the point of standing by impotently when the religious right ideas infiltrate that party.

I am talking about the Dominionist leaders, not the followers - who have been duped and deceived by the leaders into supporting extreme right wing politics - and reaching out to Dominionist leaders is not the same as reaching out to the followers - as many here are now claiming. It is disarming us in the face of a very real and dangerous threat.

The point of reaching out to the followers is to break the hold the leaders have over them. Reaching out to the leaders can only accomplish the opposite of that.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:38 PM
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46. I'll see your dominionist and raise you an alarmist. Be very afraid.
I bet they have a secret handshake AND a tattoo under the right armpit.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:41 PM
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48. Yup -- stealth is their game
Like how the Scientologists did that back in the 70's and 80's.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:44 PM
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61. Next thing you know they will be slipping flouride into the drinking water and contaminating our
VITAL FLUIDS.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:21 PM
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64. The Scientologists very successfully did it 20+ years ago
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 03:22 PM by LostinVA
And, the OP is not a tinfoiler.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:27 PM
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65. What exactly did the Scientologists do 20 + years ago? Take over the government?
And, as to the tinfoilerness of the OP, a famous statement about ducks quacking comes to mind.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:54 PM
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71. Yes, to an extent they did, and they were very succesful at it
Luckily, they weren't as wily as they thought.

General Smedley? That was a close call, too.

I'm far, far from a tinfoiler, and neither is the OP. The group she's talking about are rael, and they don't hide what their intentions are. It's very strange you make such light of them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:45 PM
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62. Exactly and that's why imho Warren is more dangerous than Falwell
ever was. Warren has "the banality of evil" all over him. He looks like your next door neighbor who keeps saying he should go on a diet and who borrows your pruning shears twice a year.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:43 PM
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70. Yep...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:51 PM
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52. Giving this invocation gives him no political power
Not a single dominionist or other variety of freeper is in the least bit happy - they are too busy hoarding their guns and preparing for communist takeover and probably condemning Warren for taking the role - temporary and fleeting role at that.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 01:57 PM
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55. The election was about defeating them - why offer a place of honor...
Do you think Obama's people thoroughly researched this guy?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:42 PM
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60. And here I thought the election was about picking a President. Silly me.
Where DID I miss the message that the election was about defeating the evil Dominionists?????
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 06:31 PM
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76. It lends credence to his hatefulness and yes, that is political. n/t
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:02 PM
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56. Does it really matter?
Aren't all of these guys basically the same. I'm sorry but to me, a fundie is a fundie is a fundie. I don't like any of these fools. I'm sure there is going to be one of them who is the most visible and considered a leader. So it's Rick Warren, so what. How can he really be any worse than Falwell or Robertson?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:29 PM
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66. There's quite a difference between someone who is a Dominionist...
...meaning someone who believes in taking over the gov't, and someone who isn't.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 02:41 PM
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59. I personally think Warren is a shallow man but what he espouses in public
is dominionism.


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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:31 PM
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67. Obama should do a press conference where he actually answers ALL of these questions.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:03 PM
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63. "Mmmm... Jabba sa footoo Hutt... coo wolpa tooney rana! ... Hahaaah!



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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 03:32 PM
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68. He's really quite the charmer! :)
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 04:14 PM
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72. Has anyone told you today that you rock, Swampy?
Well now I just did!
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:05 PM
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78. Kick and...

:rofl:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 11:05 PM
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80. Democrats defending Dominonists?
Democrats attacking people for criticizing Dominionists, and saying that it is the critics who are spreading fear and hatred?

What sort of upside down inside out world view is this?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:38 AM
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82. Yup -- you got it
I thought this was a really weird thread yesterday.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 02:15 AM
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87. This is the right wing of DU I guess.
Anything Warren does is praise worthy.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 11:07 AM
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84. Damn, how did I miss this one? K since I can't R.
This would be worth reposting on Friday when the site traffic picks up.
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 11:16 PM
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86. Aren't Dominionists white supremecists as well?
Or am I thinking of another nutty religious fringe?
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