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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:29 PM Original message |
Bishop Chane: Obama "is courting the powerful at the expense of the marginalized." |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. +Chane is a very good man! Thanks for posting this. n/t |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. Very well said. - n/t |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. k/r |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. Obama may be confused about right and wrong, but this guy has it nailed. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. True. And I could take it better if DUers would just be honest about it. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. What's done is done. I don't agree with Rick Warren, but at this point |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. You must save Obama from himself and save us. Ask him to change his mind and his heart and |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I already emailed them about it. That's all I can do. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Obama will look couragous and strong if he can change his mind. He will need to |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. PE Obama can pull off just about anything. So you're right |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. A pretty speech will not assuage the GLBT community this time. |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 06:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Obama has put Obama in a difficult position |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Better to look a fool than be one. |
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biopowertoday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
65. Its a sign of leadership to admit to mistakes. Lets see if Obama |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. If Obama is incapable of correcting this mistake of inviting Rick Warren |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. If Obama views it as a mistake, he will correct. it. I don't know if |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Right, but one way is clearly in strong support of civil rights for all. nt |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 03:16 AM Response to Reply #15 |
39. Disagree with you and Skinner |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. And I would like to add... |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Escalating the war in Afghanistan = Republican victories 2012? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. The further handwring argument is ridiculous. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Can I trust that you'll be doing this for the next four years |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 04:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Sadly, I won't bet against that. nt |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 06:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
42. It's not really our job to be worried about Jeb/Jindal/Palin at this point |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
47. Sorry, but I'm not willing to play the pawn for the next four years. |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
48. If Obama does a good job over the next 4-8 years, no Republican will stand a chance. |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's unfortunate his decision has caused this much pain and anger. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Errraaa... |
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Stardust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sometimes I think Obama tries to please everyone. And will inevitably, in the end, |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I don't think he's trying to please evangelicals. I think he has this stubborn |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Too bad the common ground is disenfranchising gays. NT |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
43. Obama is also very good about learning from his mistakes |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Yeah, he learned from McClurkin alright! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Was McClurkin really a political negative for him, though? |
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Ocracoker16 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. I am glad you posted this |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Other bishops, and majorities in the clergy and laity! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Bishop Chane should be giving the invocation, not Warren |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. That's what I've been saying! nt |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
21. Bless you, Bishop Chane. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. I've always been impressed by this guy. WDC has itself one excellent |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. He is exactly right. We have been marginalized by the man we worked for. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. Such a truly profound statement. I saw earlier a posting by the Episcopal |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. Another Episcopal reason to dislike Rick Warren: |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
31. Thank you for posting this. KandR. eom. |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
34. K&R for a thoughtful addition to the discussion. n/t |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 03:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. K&R Thanks for posting this article & thanks to Reverend Chane |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
37. This may be the best article on why it was a bad decision to pick warren |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
44. Well said, Bishop Chane. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
45. It might be necessary for the kind of change Obama intends to lead... |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
46. The Bishop says it perfectly. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
50. This was an excellent contribution by Bishop Chane |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
51. "He is courting the powerful at the expense of the marginalized" |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
52. A politician doing that? No way. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
53. Do you see it now? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
55. it's a slap in the face to many.... |
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Balderdash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
56. He is courting the powerful at the expense of the marginalized |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. Jesus Christ this guy is a monster! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
59. figured he was episcopal great post. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
60. kick |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. And a kick to your kick because Bishop Chane represents the best |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
62. I like the way this Episcopalian Bishop |
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LaydeeBug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
63. kick. nt |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. Kick |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
66. One thing that bothers me about Obama's decision. He counters that he wants ALL sides |
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