So, Rick Warren doesn't allow gays to join his church

[Neecy]

According to Maddow.

Should we all join clubs that don't allow Jews? Or blacks? Oh, wait - that's illegal! It's only okay to exclude us.

This gets more repulsive by the hour. How can this man be defended here?

[ropi]

1. the defense is

he's only going to be up there for 2 mins... :sarcasm:

[Engineer4Obama]

8. And lets make it matter

Lets do to him what we did to Sarah Palin at the RNC. If/When Rick Warren speaks on inauguration day I will be donating $100 to a marriage equality organization I invite others to join me.

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. That is a great idea!

[ropi]

17. i shall do that.

thanks, engineer! :-)

[Maven]

2. But we need to be more tolerant, and less partisan!

:argh:

[TechBear_Seattle]

11. Indeed. It is always *we* who must be more tolerant; never, ever *them*

To quote Ms. Parks of blessed memory: "My feet are tired."

[jgraz]

3. Actually, I'm pretty sure he doesn't allow Jews to join either

Just a guess...

[Neecy]

9. Does he state that on his site?

They love to recruit Jews, so I doubt they'd exclude one.

[jgraz]

13. A post-recruitment Jew isn't really a Jew anymore.

I'm sure he'd take "re-educated" gays as well.

But really, who cares? The guy is a walking billboard for atheism.

[KitchenWitch]

4. Oh, and get over it.

:sarcasm:

[Neecy]

5. lol

[AlCzervik]

6. really! Just try and "Be happy"

:sarcasm:

[Dennis Donovan]

7. Who the fuck would want to join that loopy church?

"Saddleback?" Do they worship Gabby Hayes?:crazy:

[jonnyblitz]

10. he must be defended on behalf of Dear Leader

:patriot:

[liberalmuse]

12. I hope he's not.

If so, I guess I've become an expert at dodging those particular threads.

[Starry Messenger]

14. I am certainly not going to defend him--ever.

You are right, it just keeps getting more repulsive:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/12/rick-warrens-controversial-com.html

4. Much of this debate is not really about civil rights, but a desire for approval. The fact that 70% of blacks supported Prop 8 shows they don't believe it is a civil rights issue. Gays in California already have their rights. What they desire is approval and validation from those who disagree with them, and they are willing to force it by law if necessary. Any disapproval is quickly labeled "hate speech. Imagine if we held that standard in every other disagreement Americans have? There would be no free speech. That's why, on the traditional marriage side, many saw Prop 8 as a free speech issue: Don't force me to validate a lifestyle I disagree with. It is not the same as marriage." And many saw the Teacher's Union contribution of $3 million against Prop 8, as a effort to insure that children would be taught to approve what most parents disapprove of.]

HIS WORDS ARE ALL LIES

[musette_sf]

18. "Don't force me to validate a lifestyle I disagree with"

wow, i guess the idea of equality, justice and "live and let live" never occurred to this freak.

[Starry Messenger]

21. But he wears Hawaiian shirts!

Seriously, if we could pass laws invalidating lifestyles I disagreed with, Free Republic would be a smoking hole in the ground.

[eridani]

22. Warren, you shitstain! Gays don't even have "lifestyles"

We have LIVES. Capeesh?

[QC]

15. It's our fault. We didn't reach out to him enough. n/t

[AlCzervik]

19. he's a checkbook radical cleric, i'm sure if we send him some cash we'll get an audience.

a lot of cash, that's what people like him want.

[Captain Hilts]

20. Is there a blood test, or what?

[TexasObserver]

23. With the exception of UU, most of religion is similarly bigoted.

To be religious is to be judgmental, and the more archaic the belief, the more tightly it is bound into biases based upon the ignorance of ancient goat herders.