Obama is now HURTING the Gay community if he let's Warren stay

[Divine Discontent]

As I predicted, and hundreds others said the very same thing - Warren will now have a springboard to spew forth his filthy views about Gay people.

I am nobody, but with all of YOU, I am a group! P.E. OBAMA MUST REMOVE THIS HORSE'S ASS FROM THE INAUGURATION!

Not only did this slimy Poli-preacher say the other day that Gay marriage is akin to being married to a kid, or your sister, or having multiple wives - but now I see a TODAY video of him going quite hard at Gay people's morals, and claiming he has "many gay friends" who tell him, "why can't I have many sexual partners, it's natural". I had to stop the video right there - he is an affront to decency, and I am not going to stop voicing extreme anger and disgust at - BARACK OBAMA - for choosing him. I will only be satisfied if he removes AND slaps down the comments he has spewed upon the Gay community!

I AM A THIRTY-SEVEN YEAR OLD VIRGIN, AND MOST OF THE GAY MEN I KNOW HAVE HAVE HAD ONLY A HANDFUL OF PARTNERS. HOW DARE THIS IMMORAL, HATEFUL, BIGOTED, HORSE'S ASS GO ON NATIONAL TV AND MAKE US ALL SOUND LIKE UNREPENTANT PERVERTS!

Please, Kick & Resond! And to those of you who aren't Gay, who aren't already angry for us - I ask you - somehow, realize if this was about a particular trait YOU have (Ethnicity, Religious, Skin Color, etc) and imagine these insults were being thrown at you, leading up to, what was the most exciting Inaugural in over 40 years!

P.E. Obama, the ball is in your court.

I have contacted the following, I hope you will also:
http://change.gov/page/s/civilrights
Obama's GLBT Transition lead - Mr. Parag Mehta (thanks to cBoy4 for getting this email) - [e-mail]

[JohnnieGordon]

1. I'm a 44 yr old gay man who's been with 3 different men, and no women nt

[ronnykmarshall]

3. Only 3??

Armature!

I kid! I kid!

I has to test drive a lot of cars before I found the one I liked.

:silly:

[sandnsea]

4. Married straight woman

I wasn't test driving - I was joy riding! :hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

6. Go girl!!

[JohnnieGordon]

8. I'm not judgmental about what anyone else does, just saying the stereotypes can be so untrue..nt

[ronnykmarshall]

21. I hear ya!

[Divine Discontent]

16. ty for your post. bless you. eom

[sandnsea]

2. Can we please macaca this guy

For the love of god PLEASE start posting the youtubes so people start seeing and hearing the idiocy that comes out of this man's mouth.

[ronnykmarshall]

5. Gotta be a bunch!!

Hey you ... what's up???

Haven't crossed paths in a while.

[sandnsea]

12. Been hiding

I can never say anything right when this shit happens. I see the hurt coming from all over the place and it all upsets me. Too often some people only see one side of my responses and then that never ends up good either. ColbertWatcher posted the YouTube idea yesterday and I keep trying to get people rounding them up.

[Divine Discontent]

11. I will start posting his comments on youtube, good idea sandnsea!

the crap that has festered from his bowels out of his lips is so insulting and the longer Obama lets him have this springboard of fame, the longer he hurts civil rights - as we all know Warren is another Jerry Falwell, and he's not just against Gays, although they're the easiest first target.

and, hopefully, someone somewhere will have a video of him to post on youtube and bring him down for the jerk we know he is!

take care!

[LaydeeBug]

7. I wanna know if Barack Obama is going to invite a KKK member to spew THOSE views

and call it happy. Why isn't that the same thing? :hrug:

[Solomon]

9. Obama's hurting the gay community!? You guys are fucking

nuts. Over the top. Blame it on Obama. You guys are no different from the right wing. It's an Obama recession you know. Obama caused the financial meltdown, everything. The guy hasn't even taken the oath of office yet. Get real.

[Bluebear]

13. BREAKING: Prop 8 supporters seek to nullify 18,000 marriages

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4685771&mesg_id=4685771

[sandnsea]

14. Please. This does not help

Choosing Warren was a mistake. The best thing to do is for everbody to calm down and organize a strategy to expose him for the hater he is. Calmly and rationally.

[Divine Discontent]

15. BLIND allegiance

there is nothing to say to someone like you that cannot comprehend this jerk is only on the TODAY immediately insinuating all Gay people are perverts out to screw as many men (he's not talking about Lesbians, they never do) as they can get their lusty hands on - and this goes with his other interview from a few days ago comparing us to pedophiles!

So, take your insensitive heart elsewhere - I'm sorry you don't have the comprehension level to see that Barack Obama is the reason for Rick Warren having the stage he has now been given to behave as if he's the moral authority, since such a big deal gig was given to him by the future president. DUH! How hard was this to not see coming?

[makinguphumans]

27. Obama made a serious mistake. Lets see if he is big enough to admit it.

[AZBlue]

47. Thank you for your moment of clarity and sanity.

It's getting pretty hard to read DU these days.

[Divine Discontent]

52. "it's getting pretty ugly to read DU" then don't read an opinion piece that you know will upset you

I and millions of Gay people and their backers are not making DU unreadable - we're pissed, we've contacted people online, we've wrote the change website, and we're voicing our frustration on our web home - if you don't like it - TOUGH, I don't even have full rights to even say they're being shat upon! Obama made a truly boneheaded move by putting his buddy Warren into the inauguration picture in such a visible way. So, now that ass is out spewing filth everywhere he goes, about how perverse and nasty Gay people are - but yet he has, "many Gay friends", riiiiiiight... and they all want to fuck as many men as possible as he said.
I'd love to tell him to his face -

Stop trolling the parks at night Warren, and you won't get that perverse sample of men to base your opinions upon!

[jonnyblitz]

10. awwww. what a cute pic of the two best buddies.

:puke:

[Liberal Veteran]

17. Another way to look at it: Remember how it felt to be completely cut off from the process?

That's what the republicans did to us. It was in part, that, which energized us.

It was part of what started this very discussion board we are on.

It was part of what started us winning back the congress and many of the downticket races.

It was part of what started liberal talk radio.

Total, in your face, "YOU HAVE NO PLACE AT OUR TABLE!", "ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES SO SHUT THE HELL UP!"

Is that really the game we want to play? I don't like Warren either. But as concessions go and extending an Olive Branch in hopes of preventing the right wing from energizing itself in the same way we have, this is pretty small potatoes and can be endured.

You attract more flies with honey than vinegar.

Or keep your friends close and your enemies closer. It's going to be hard for Warren to rail against the very person whose inauguration he is participating in.

[Divine Discontent]

19. but he has no problem attacking Gays on TV, I wonder what's next out of his mouth?

first it was Gays are like pedophiles, polygamists, and those who commit incest, now it's that we're lustful pigs who go around and sleep with as many partners as we can find - I garner next month it will be that Gays really don't have a place in society, and really shouldn't be teaching children. The crap he's already said and not been slapped down about from Obama, is over the top.

[pot luck]

24. I have to disagree.

Obama has already reached out to this douche (the Saddleback forum) and a few days later Warren was all over every television program bashing Obama's answers on choice. Having him at his inauguration isn't going to neuter this guy, it's just going to embolden him.

[eridani]

51. Not to mention lying about McSame having heard Obama's every word n/t

[AntiFascist]

25. Thank you....

this is the first post I've seen defending Obama's choice of Warren that contains something that makes any sense to me:

"It's going to be hard for Warren to rail against the very person whose inauguration he is participating in."

Do we have to wait 4 or more years to see how this plays out, or will Obama continue reaching out to Fundamentalists?

A counterargument would be that Obama is providing legitimacy to the pro Prop 8 people. Already, they are feeling energized enough to ask the CA Supreme Court to invalidate all previous gay marriages. Did this plan backfire, or is it part of Obama's broader plan to sacrifice all of his promises to the GLBT community in favor of broader evangelical support?

[Liberal Veteran]

26. Isn't it just as easy to say by accepting, Warren is giving legitimacy to Obama's agenda?

You'll note to "good reverend" isn't falling all over himself to say he'll have nothing to with this guy.

[AntiFascist]

28. Obama is going to be president whether they like it or not...

his legitimacy, or even that of his agenda - with a Democratic majority in Congress, should not be much of an issue.

[jberryhill]

31. I never understood why anyone WANTED to attract flies

You can attract flies with shit, too.

Corpses work well, I hear.

[WeDidIt]

32. It looks to me that Obama never intended the GLBT community to HAVE a seat at the table

He gave their seat to Warren.

[Liberal Veteran]

35. Really, that group of gay musicians participating in the parade isn't a place at the table?

Including gays and lesbians in his transition team isn't a place at the table?

Appointing someone who is a gay to a high level position is less important than a ceremonial function that will last a minute or so?

[WeDidIt]

36. What cabinet level position was that again?

:::crickets:::

[Liberal Veteran]

37. Oh, not a cabinet level position. How silly of me.

Whatever was I thinking?

:eyes:

So let's recap: One day bit player in a swearing in ceremony > high ranking appointment in the administration.

Do you have a list of exchange rates on these things so I'll know when to be properly properly outraged about things?

I wouldn't want to miss out.

[mondo joe]

43. Bush appointed Condi Rice. Hence Katrina had nothing to do with racism?

Is that how it works?

[Liberal Veteran]

44. That's tortured logic.

Fail.

[mondo joe]

45. It's your tortured logic. Having a few gay entertainers at a party doesn't mean gays

have a place at the table - other than waiter.

[Liberal Veteran]

46. And we'll just pretend those gays in his transition team and those he appoints...

...is not really "a place at the table".

So is this invocation thing a lifetime appointment or is there a term on it?

I don't really see much difference between the preacher casting the magical christian spell on the inauguration and the gay people invited to the parade.

It's just a party....not a policy.

[mondo joe]

48. Did appointing a few blacks on the Bush team mean anything different?

Seriously. Did it?

[Liberal Veteran]

49. There you go then. Rice and Powell are meaningless, but Warren is earthshattering.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Bush and Obama aren't quite the same people.

[mondo joe]

50. I didn't say Warren was earth shattering.

But I do think Obama's seal of approval on someone who equates gays with child molesters is a slap in the face from someone who claims to be our "fierce advocate".

[Kermitt Gribble]

38. The inclusion

of old-school republicans or fiscal conservatives is somewhat acceptable. The inclusion of the christofascist social conservatives is completely unacceptable. They are against human rights, democracy, science, global warming. They support war, hate, and ignorance. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. They should be driven from this country, not invited to participate in its ongoing development.

[Liberal Veteran]

40. Wouldn't it be better to bring them over to our way of thinking than exiling them?

[Kermitt Gribble]

41. That's funny! Mass hypnosis, maybe?

I don't believe it's possible.

[Liberal Veteran]

42. Not all of them. But I have faith in most people.

Even good people can be be misled.

We won't get them all...maybe not even most. But shouldn't we at least try?

[Kermitt Gribble]

53. Like I said earlier -

we should try to include old school republicans and maybe fiscal conservatives. The religious right? Absolutely not! Their views on which direction the country should be heading are 100% regressive. Any cooperation with them will take us backward as a nation.

[AllentownJake]

18. I sent him my story of being nearly attacked

when I was with my girlfriend who had her hair in a way that made her look like a boy in High School one dark night till they realized I was kissing a girl and not a boy.

Don't know if that will matter. :shrug:

[Divine Discontent]

20. That must have been scary. Thanks for doing the letter. eom

[Connie_Corleone]

22. Thanks for the email address.

I had already sent an email to change.gov. I just sent off an email to Mehta.

[Divine Discontent]

23. TY Connie! eom

[mondo joe]

29. Not another cent from me. Not another vote. Not for Obama, or the DNC, or any

cause trumpeted on DU.

[Liberal Veteran]

33. And what if Obama manages to get rid of DADT and DOMA....

...and gets some federal recognition for gay unions or fixes health care in this country and removes our dependence on oil?

I know people are upset, but never name the well from which you will not drink.

[mondo joe]

34. Ask me about it then.

And I'm disinterested in healthcare and oil dependence now.

If neither party will advocate for me, that will have to be my only concern.

[Starry Messenger]

30. I sent my letter.

k&r

[Kermitt Gribble]

39. Message sent. Great post. n/t

[ecstatic]

54. If someone chose the worst possible way to interpret Obama's actions,

then yes, the Inauguration really will be a hurtful time. I've chosen to give him the benefit of the doubt and it won't ruin my day.

[bunnies]

55. What the hell is wrong with having many sexual partners?!

"its an affront to decency". Really?

Most of the gay men I know DO have many sexual partners. And frankly, I see no reason to cast judgment on them because of that. Are you calling my friends "immoral" because they're not as pure as you? Because if you are, thats bullshit, imho.

What happens between consenting adults is nobodies business to judge. I find it incredible that you dont see that.

on edit: "immoral" strike that. I see you're calling them "unrepentant perverts". Funny. I bet thats exactly what Warren would call them. :nuke: