I am sad to see the level of discourse here, today and yesterday...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

We are all hurt...

We are all angry...

But what are we doing with our hurt, our anger?

We're directing it at each other...

Instead of sending our messages to the man who created the mess: Barack Obama.

We can settle nothing here...We don't have the power to change what happens at the Inauguration...

Only Obama does, and we all know it.

So...tell him about your feelings.


And let DU become a place for more civil discourse.


Peace on earth...good will to all people...

Is it really too much to ask?


Oh, I hope not.


Peace out...

[leftstreet]

1. Let Us All Pray

Dear (insert here)

Please let Rick Warren get caught with a prostitute before January 20.

Amen

:hi:

[nomaco-10]

2. ROTFLMAO n/t

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. LOL!

:rofl: :rofl:

:spank:

[Critters2]

6. I figure it's only a matter of time. nt

[uponit7771]

8. lol!!!

[Clio the Leo]

9. Hey now THAT I will agree with! NT

[IndianaGreen]

10. A young boy would be better still!

Let his fat ass be exposed for the hypocrite that he is.

[crappyjazz]

12. I'm Ted Haggard

and I approve this message

[Uzybone]

14. +1 to that

[ecstatic]

25. Maybe someone on DU can volunteer? If I was a Cali resident, I would

do it.

[jberryhill]

26. A lot of DUers think he'll be caught with one at around noon ON the 20th /nt

[grantcart]

40. thatt is a genuine "threadbuster"

is that a new word?

[akbacchus_BC]

41. Ha ha, won't that be a treat? Hope he is not a pedophile though ...

dislike when children get molested. Hope a hooker comes forward!

[roguevalley]

44. damn. I can go to sleep smiling tonight. Thank you, leftstreet

[leftstreet]

45. You're welcome! LOL But I think we busted Peggy's thread

Sorry Peggy!

:hi:

[roguevalley]

54. Probably did but damn! That was sooooo funny. Thank you again. :)

[EFerrari]

46. And let her please get paid in advance. Thanks!

:)

[Beacool]

47. Hmmmm, that's a good idea,

but just Warren? I have more than one guy in mind.......

:eyes:

[donheld]

49. S

Here is the letter you left off. It's let us spray.

[LuckyTheDog]

55. Could we make that a male prostitute?

Or, would that just be greedy?

[azmouse]

3. Bless you, CaliforniaPeggy.

Always the voice of reason. :hug:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

15. Thank you so much, my dear azmouse...

:hug:

[S_E_Fudd]

4. I have...I sent a message urging he stick to his guns...

He is doing the right thing

[CaliforniaPeggy]

16. Whatever your view, Obama needs to hear it...

Good for you!

:hi:

[uponit7771]

7. A good argument on this issue is needed. Warren uses God as an excuse to be a bigot

[CaliforniaPeggy]

17. I agree...

But Obama is the one who needs to hear it...

[Clio the Leo]

11. ((((Hugs for Peggy))))) NT

[CaliforniaPeggy]

18. Thank you, my dear Clio the Leo...

:hug:

[Amerigo Vespucci]

13. Human nature, CP...human nature.

A few moments ago, in a different thread, I encouraged a fellow DUer to take his concerns to Barack Obama.

Because here is the stark reality of things.

There is a very good chance that Obama's handlers / staff members / friends / etc. chek in on DU from time to time...maybe even daily.

But is Barack Obama reading the Rick Warren threads?

No, he's not. If I had a farm, I'd bet the farm on it.

So anyone who is upset with Obama has the option of contacting Obama.

He's not God. He's not perfect. He's not the second coming of JFK or Christ. He is...

AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

That's right...he works for YOU and for ME and for EVERY man and woman who elected him to office.

He doesn't work for Rick Warren.

He words for US.

And anyone who doesn't like his choice of invocation speaker needs to contact BARACK OBAMA and stop taking their frustrations out on their fellow DUers.

:patriot:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

19. My dear Amerigo Vespucci!

You have stated my entire premise perfectly!

Thank you...

:hug:

:patriot:

[ccharles000]

20. Great post peggy.

:hug:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

21. Thank you, my dear ccharles000!

:hug:

[Generic Brad]

22. Ever the voice of reason

I have been avoiding DU this week just because of this very issue. I hate the in-fighting.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

23. My dear Generic Brad...

I hate the infighting too...

Thank you for coming by long enough to read what I had to say, sweetie...

I do appreciate it!

[Danger Mouse]

24. We're hurting each other, and for what?

To make ourselves feel better? To be right?
Sigh.
Thank you for posting this.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

27. I don't know why we hurt ourselves either...

But we do, my dear Elrond Hubbard...

Human nature, I guess...

I felt the need to express myself tonight...

Thank you...

[Jennicut]

28. Well some posters here have made me feel like a right wing bigot

so I don't know what to think. I always thought of myself as being for gay rights and being a fairly liberal to moderate person politically but I feel more like a right winger lately. I guess I can go back to my Repub parents now and tell them I have become one of them.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

29. Don't let other posters define you...

You and only you know who you truly are...

Feelings can get overwrought during times like these...

:hug:

[Jennicut]

30. Thanks but I think there are a few posters

who just take things very far and don't realize how much they end up hurting others. I do feel bad for the gay members of DU but the way some people have gone at each other on both sides of this issue is pretty sad.

[QC]

35. Some have made me feel like I'm surrounded by right wing bigots.

So I guess it all evens out in the end.

[WhiteTara]

31. there is something so creepy about

his beard. He just looks like a pedophile to me.

[happychatter]

32. you're a decent person

thanks for posting

[CaliforniaPeggy]

33. I try to be...Thank you!

[AtomicKitten]

34. I don't understand several of the moves Obama has made in this transition.

And when I get agitated about it, I have people close to me that have been instructed to remind me that he hasn't been sworn in yet, that he is just moving the pieces into place.

I object to Warren because he is a leader that proselytizes fear and ignorance and bigotry from the pulpit. I also understand perspective, that this is worse than McClurkin being invited to perform at one concert cosponsored by Obama during the primary, and not nearly as bad as Bill Clinton choosing his political longevity by not vetoing (and thus signing into policy) the Defense of Marriage Act.

Today Bush finalized the Right of Conscience Act and the implications of that mess are far-reaching. It is the insidious nature of these kinds of policies that affects the freedom and quality of lives. Bad policy resonates.

I find the accusations and attacks on those at DU that are deemed not sufficiently overtly outraged to the prescribed level over the Warren inclusion in the inauguration really unfortunate. It seems unique to DU and DU alone from my experience. Perspective and choosing battles wisely is not a character flaw. It is wisdom.

I will be looking to President Barack Obama to prove he is a fierce advocate of the LGBT community by his policies. Although I certainly don't understand some of the decisions he has made with regard to putting people into place, I do understand that it is policy that makes a difference in peoples' lives.

Pace su terra.

[davidpdx]

36. This place has become a craphole

literally. People calling others bigots like it's a word to be thrown around without even asking others their opinion.

The all or nothing attitude is going to make it a very tough 4 years.

[Hekate]

37. Thanks for your voice of peace, California Peggy

DU has really bummed me out since the election. It makes me so sad that I want to go away, despite its having been my home for 6 years.

I finally figured out that my problem is that I wanted to bask in the afterglow of this achievement at least until Barack Obama got sworn in, then maybe a little of the traditional "honeymoon" presidents are supposed to get ... before harsh reality sets in.

Instead, every time I turn around I realize that whole bunches of DUers think this hope, this wish of mine is nothing but rank stupidity and the naivete of a child. The "perfect" is driving out the "good". Barack Obama will never be perfect, so he will never be good enough. Pointing that out gets interpreted as being told to stfu, throwing people under the bus and backing up on them...

An absolutely incredible historic event has taken place this November. If there was an afterglow from the election, it was not at DU -- we were too busy fighting about Proposition 8 and the alleged part that black voters played in its passage (no real analysis like Rachel Maddow did, but just pitting one group against another). If there is a honeymoon period for this new president-to-be, it is not at DU -- period.

I want to understand, really, but I can't take the vitriol.

Stupid of me, but I'm :cry: Really stupid.

I need a break.

Hekate

[PBS Poll-435]

38. Proud to K & R

:pals:

[akbacchus_BC]

39. CP, you are good voice of reason on here. You worked for the Obama

campaign and am sure you enjoyed it. I have no Idea why PE Obama would nominate a bigot to his inaguration! That is such a slap in the face of the people who supported him.

I think power corrupts! But I might be wrong, I am just hoping he will do right by the American people but his reaching across the aisle is too much for me, that is a fallacy. Republicans will always be republicant's.

The world is banking on this guy to make a difference, if you are dissapointed, then it is de ja vue right back to 2004 when Geore Bush got elected again!

I remember walking around in a daze wondering how come Americans voted this prick in! Hold Obama's feet to the fire. Do not let him get away with crap like George Bush!

Peace

[CaliforniaPeggy]

42. I did work for him, and I did enjoy it...

And yes, we must keep his feet to the fire!

Not each others...

Power does corrupt...I'm not sure this is what's going on with Obama, though...

Thank you for your very kind words!


:hug:

[akbacchus_BC]

43. CP, thank you for your response. I have always admired your strength

on here and your very nice response to people.

I just hople PE Obama is not revelling in his win and now backing out on his promises. I think picking that Rick Warren person is a slap in the face to the Gay community. Never thought he would have done that!

I am kinda sad from across the pond!

Hope am wrong!

Peace and you are a wonderful woman, I admire you, Nance, Frenchie and Babylonsister

[mvd]

48. Thanks Peggy

It's been busy for the mods lately.

My opinion is that if you reach out like this to Warren, not much is gained. It doesn't say much for Obama's gay rights stance, and fundies are rigid in their beliefs. They will stab you in the back. But there's a lot of room for civil disagreement. :hi:

[Divine Discontent]

50. My dear CaliforniaPeggy

that was very well written. I wrote yesterday to Obama, and to his GLBT transition team. I hope others saw my original thread with the civil rights transition link from change.gov, and also cBoy4's original thread that had the email address for Padrag, who is the lead of the GLBT transition staff.

:hug:

[Critters2]

51. You're mistaken, Peg. We're not all hurt. Some are fine with this decision.

And that just adds more hurt.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

52. ...

:hug:

[AtomicKitten]

53. .