SLUDGE : DNC TO LAUNCH FRESH ATTACK ON BUSH GUARD DUTY

[jefferson_dem]

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DNC TO LAUNCH FRESH ATTACK ON BUSH GUARD DUTY: WILL RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT 1978 CAMPAIGN LIT

**Exclusive**

Faster than a CBS eye can blink, dogged Dems are set to take to the airwaves anew hoping to keep questions about President Bush's National Guard duty in play, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Candidate Kerry apparently has rejected former President Clinton's advice not to get further locked in a 2004 Vietnam quagmire.

"George W. Bush's campaign literature claimed that he 'served in the U.S. Air Force.' The only problem? He didn't," slams a new DNC press release set for distribution.

Dems will attempt to increase the heat on Bush ahead of his planned Tuesday address before The National Guard Association gathering in Las Vegas.

In 2000, Bush opened his National Guard Association speech: "General, I am reporting for duty."

MORE

Kerry plans to speak to the group on Thursday, but he personally hold back questioning Bush's service, sources explain.

The coordinated nationwide effort this week by the DNC has been code-named "Project Fortunate Son."

"George Bush has a clear pattern of lying about his military service," DNC Communications Director Jano Cabrera blasts in the new release. "From 1978 to the present day, George Bush has refused to tell voters the truth about his service. It's time for the President to come clean."

"Flyers distributed to Texas voters during Bush's failed Congressional race say 'he served in the U.S. Air Force and the Texas Air National Guard.' But according to Air Force officials, Air National Guardsmen are not counted as members of the active-duty Air Force."

[Shuck and Jive]

1. See Thread Project Fortunate Son

[Proud2BAmurkin]

2. About DAMN TIME

.

[Cooley Hurd]

3. Take a bow, Skinner

That didn't take long to go national, did it? :D :thumbsup:

[grasswire]

7. well.......

...to be fair, that campaign literature has been known for a long time. I saw it during the runup to 2000. So I'm afraid that the campaign didn't get the news from DU.

Google the words "campaign literature bush congress air force" and you get more than 38,000 hits.

http://www.google.com/search?q=campaign+literature+bush+congress+air+force&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&start=30&sa=N

[Doosh]

4. he's just hyping is radio show

[shraby]

Apparently they missed the part

where it says he went to Harvard BEFORE he joined TANG.

[shraby]

5. Apparently they missed the part

where it says he went to Harvard BEFORE he joined TANG.

[Jacobin]

6. I hope not

There is about twenty five billion tons of stupid shit that is documented that Smirk has done/not done in the last 3 years that affects people today. Hell The Daily Show had a GREAT montage of about 1 and a half minutes of that that kicked ass.

This is dumb dumb dumb dumb

[AmerDem]

8. What is so dumb about it?

Do you honestly think most of Americans are political junkies like us, posting to message boards and blogs? This will be news they will not only appreciate but base their vote on.:wtf:

[Teaser]

21. It's brilliant and I'll tell you why

Because all the stupid shit Bush has done has been on policy matters. And the media has made it abundantly clear it doesn't give a flying fuck about policy matters. What the media wants is gaffe's, flip-flops, flobs, distortions, and mud.

So let's give it to those worthless shits.

[Jacobin]

26. Here's why I think that

It will bring to mind that both candidates "have issues with their service". Bush* has successfully slimed Kerry (it doesn't matter that what was said was a lie. It sticks in the minds of people who watch ten minutes of news a week). It'll be a so what moment.

For undecideds who tune in to see who they should vote for at this last moment, its another "oh no, not that shit again" moment. They may want to see 1) what Kerry plans to do in the next 4 years, or 2)Sliming back at Bush (actually "slime" not the right word because it will all be factual and true). Just SHOW What Bush Has Done In the Last Three Years...as in the Daily Show segment.

I'm of the camp that thinks that we need to bash back on current issues (lord knows there is enough for a hundred campaigns) and not re-play the Vietnam hash over again.

[demwing]

48. Precisely Why Kerry Use THe DNC

To push this.

I disagree that it makes it seem like "same old, same old" at this point. To the contrary, it seems like Bush is a hypocrite who smears his opponents to divert attention from his own shortcommings.

Everybody has met or is related to a loser that spreads rumors about YOUR faults, never admitting their own.

People will relate.

[nonkultur]

9. This is going to backfire.

They are just going to hit us back with Kerry claiming to be in the "Navy" as opposed to being in the "Navy Reserves"

I am about to give up.

[Name removed]

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[nonkultur]

11. Low Post Count?

I have been here a month and a half longer than you have.
Excuse me for having a job and not alienating fellow party members.

[Name removed]

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[nonkultur]

16. Excuse me for seeing how this is already backfiring.

How many more softballs should we pitch?

[jefferson_dem]

18. What evidence do you have when you say it's "already backfiring"?

I believe that, these arguments can chip away at the public's CURRENT image of chimpy's credibility, it will be a sizeable plus for us. This may already be happening (a slip in public "trust") according to the latest Newsweek poll. Once trust goes, all numbers will come tumbling down.

[nonkultur]

23. They have been used for the past 10 years though.

This attack is just going to have "Naval Reserves" thrown back in our face. I know how the right wing media works.

We need to talk about the lack of security in 2001, The attacks in Belsan (the world is not safer), and the rampant costs of prescription drugs and health care.

[louis c]

25. I agree with you

I bet you know how the right wing media works.

About the rest of your opinions, I think you're full of shit, and you're not one of us.

[Name removed]

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[louis c]

24. Why do all these negative replies

come from people with so few posts?

nice moniker non Kultur. Kind of like Ann Coulter, isn't it?

[nonkultur]

27. Jesus get over the few post things.

I have been here longer than you too.

nonkultur german for no culture. I copped it in the 80's industrial/punk movement.

No wonder you fuckers are driving us long time democrats away from this message boards.

[louis c]

32. Ya, you're a long time Democrat, alright

sure, you've got us all fooled.

Now you're speaking for all "the long time Democrats".

How about giving us a little more info on all you've done for us Democrats.

"Excuse me for having a job" is usually one of those right wing replies I hear as if we here on the left don't have work or respect work.

I'm a Union President, and resent that comment. Not only do I have a job, but I protect the jobs, with benefits, of hundreds of others from pieces of shit Republicans like Bush, Cheney, and Gov. Romney (Mass.).

I talk to "Long time Democrats" all day, and you, sir, don't sound like a Democrat.

[LiberalFighter]

47. He still hasn't informed us what he has done for us Democrats

It bothers me when so called Democrats complain about what is being done but don't do anything themselves. I mean those that vote most of the time Democrat. Yet they won't volunteer or anything else that would make a difference. They think they know everything and everyone else is wrong.

[AmerDem]

33. No, there is No getting over you lack of contributing!

You are trying to equate time signed on to posts given. In my 1000 plus posts everyone here KNOWS where my thought process comes from. They know I am a life long Democrat that backs Kerry 100%.

In the last few days alone, there have been at least 4 people I have personally seen with low post counts running with repuke talking points. They were so bad at trying to disguise themselves that they stepped over the line showing they were indeed from that fascist, brainless, racist site free republic. If you can't see the association between your low post count and your slaps at Kerry and his campaign, then you are plainly clueless. Don't expect a pity party for yourself. I'll make it my lifes work to point you out!

[louis c]

35. I feel the same way as you

this guy is a fraud, plain and simple.

"Excuse me for having a job" is a dead give away.

[AmerDem]

39. Kudos!

Fight the good fight!:toast:

[louis c]

28. He has a job

like we don't.

You can smell them a mile away.

How did he even get to 150?

[AmerDem]

38. Yea, he is the repuke worker

I don't want to slam folks but if this guy or any other repukes want to start comparing moneys earning i'de be more then willing.

Being a life long, self taught tradesman there are very few main stream jobs that do as well as I have! Like i said i'm not trying to hurt other hardworking folks like me, i'm only trying to show these repuke fascist fucks how confused and programmed they are!

[Guaranteed]

12. Let them.

Kerry served in active duty and was awarded medals. Let them come.

[nonkultur]

13. I know that but look at how the media is spinning all this.

We need to get off vietnam and into current problems.

[Guaranteed]

20. Nope, we have to assassinate Bush's character.

This isn't about our problems anymore- in fact, it never was.

It's all about character. It's about WHO the candidates are.

[louis c]

34. Hey," long time Democrat"

let me give you a quote from Harry Truman.

You heard of Truman, haven't you?

"..Tell them (the Repukes of 1948) to stop lying about me, and I'll stop telling the truth about them..."

[umtalal]

45. Louis, you are good man!!! thumbs up.

[Teaser]

15. Good.

Suck it George.

[AlCzervik]

17. Everytime you go to Drudge a puppy dies.

I thought you should know.

[Jacobin]

30. LOL

I can't stop giggling.....

[AlCzervik]

31. good, we all need a giggle now and then

my sense of humor is what keeps me from killin "folks".

[umtalal]

46. The only time I read about Drudge is on the DU.

[indie_voter]

22. My one wish is that CBS has the goods

And will be able to convincingly proof * was not only AWOL but using coke.

Why this matters 30+ years later? Because * is sending our Guard to Iraq for extended tours, yet he couldn't manage to complete his obligation.

Kerry can then ask "how can you ask others to do what you refused to do" or a variation of such at a debate. He can also tie *'s inaction on 9/11 with *'s past behavior and make a compelling case that * is not the fearless leader as protrayed by Rove&Co.

Okay,my real reason? I want to remove "served with honor" from the discourse when discussing *'s service.

There is nothing honorable about this man. Never was, never will be.

[mreh]

36. I like your ideas, maybe in the debate Kerry can

Say something like “why did you not complete your obligated service in the Guard? Did you have a panic attack that kept you from flying, sort of like the panic attack you had on the morning of September 11, 2001 when you heard that a second plane had struck the WTC and we were under attack? Did you freeze in 1972 just like you did in 2001?”

[wiggs]

42. Only impactful if tied to overall message

Really, RW'rs and Indepedents really aren't that interested in what Bush did or didn't do 35 years ago.

But it becomes more important and of more interest if it is part of a storyline about how nothing with this administration (and Bush's whole life) is as it seems.

Served with honor? No.

Successful in business? No.

Nice likeable guy? No.

Moral? No.

Strong on Terror? No.

Rancher? No. Afraid of horses.

Decisive? Demonstrably no.

Education president? Heck no. Doesn't read much.

Environmental president? Healthy Skies? Healthy Forests? No, no, no.

In Iraq for humanitarian reasons? Laughable if it weren't so tragic.

Interested in getting to the bottom of Plame? Not really.

Coalition of the Willing? No.

Economy in good shape? No. Unless concentrating wealth at the top is his goal.

Afganistan under control? Iraq under control? No x No.

President? I can think of two people who are closer to being the real president right now, other than GW.


What, in God's name, has been said by this administration that HAS been accurate? By itself, the AWOL thing doesn't interest me that much. But as part of the overall picture THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO START TO PAINT, I have hopes for it as an eye-opener for those who haven't given this election the thought it deserves. HONESTY has to be key here....this administration doesn't have it (OK, going back to 1968), and Kerry does.

[indie_voter]

44. Exactly!

It is a piece of the puzzle and a very compelling one in the light of the Iraq war and how our Guard is being used. It also brings to light how he behaved in a crisis (not that he was in any real crisis, he was safe stateside while Kerry was dodging bullets but apparently not bleeding enough for these hideous chickhawks). I think Clark tried to tie this together today?

Not only didn't he serve, he weasled his way out then lied about it to further his political career.

Now he and Cheney have the unmitigated gall to try and paint Kerry as the "wuss". They both did everything they could to insure personal safety both in their youth and now (how long did it take for Bush to make an apperance in NYC? He should have been there on the 12th) Unbelievable.

I confess, the AWOL thing interests me greatly because if it can be proven (I think it has been, but I would love to see it be so iron clad nobody with two brain cells firing could doubt the evidence) it would go a long way in unmasking *.

I don't just want victory, I want these horrible people unmasked and shown for the evil they are.

[zulchzulu]

29. Sorry Chimpy. You started it. Now we will take the boot off your neck...

...when we feel like it.

[59millionmorons]

37. He had his chance

Kerry and McCain asked him to stop and he didnt. Payback is hell.

[Cocoa]

40. why does the DNC have to do this?

the right-wing website postings immediately made it into the mainstream media, without the RNC publicly pushing it.

Why didn't the media pick up on this from DU? I emailed it around, I'm sure many other DUers did.

So, what's their excuse?

[shawmut]

41. YES! I LOVE it! the Freepers are all gittin' a-scared!

as we all can see.


tee hee



:D

[ItsMyParty]

43. I don't know if we are going to win or lose; but by God I want to go out

fighting and I want people to see Bush for what he is. 4 years of hiding what this creep is and not talking about it is enough. I want the people do know that he's a piece of dirty garbage even if his base puts him back in power.

[w4rma]

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[w4rma]

49. Great! Poorly worded, though.

"George W. Bush's campaign literature claimed that he 'served in the U.S. Air Force.' The only problem? He didn't,"

Which didn't he do? claim or serve? Why make it as drawn out as this? Why not just keep it a simple statement?

George W. Bush's campaign literature claims that he 'served in the U.S. Air Force.', but Bush has never served in the U.S. Air Force.

[brooklynite]

50. This is incredibly stupid...

My wife and I gave $10,000 to the DNC last week. I'd like it would be put to good use reminding people of the record of the Bush Administration over the past four years, and what's it actually has meant to people's lives. Spending a penny on this issue is a waste of time and money, and a distraction of the audiences attention with 6 weeks to go.

As much as we love here to see Bush & Co. tarred and feathered, what he said or did in a Congressional campaign 30 years ago is irrelevant to the voters today. Those who find this significant are already voting for Kerry. Those already dedicated to Bush aren't going to be swayed. For the undecided, a 30 sceond message about this to voters in Ohio or Missouri, is 30 seconds NOT spent on how Kerry will deal with the War in Iraq, or the deficit, or job creation or health care.

I believe most voters don't want Bush re-elected, but I also believe you can't beat something with nothing. As much as I'd like to believe its simply the fault of Fox News and irresponsible Republican speeches, Kerry's major problem is that he hasn't conveyed to the audience a clear idea of what he stands for. If he doesn't start delivering that message exclusively, he's going to have a hard time in November.

[colonel odis]

51. i think the funniest part is how drudge and the freepers

stay tuned to DU.

granted, du-ers use lots of big words so it's not easy for them to follow along. but, bless their hearts, they try.