Hartmann: Blago pageant is first shot in 8 years of GOP/media terrorizing Obama

[Doctor_J]

Get used to it. Here come the 90's again. Remember Travelgate? Vince Foster? Drug running in AR? Here they come again.

Edit: I predict Obama will be impeached during his terms as president. They will find/create something to impeach him for.

[cali]

1. terrorizing? I don't think that's accurate.

However, I surely don't expect anything less than hostile from the GOP. And not much more from the MSM.

[Doctor_J]

4. You don't think GOP/Big Media terrorized Hillary during the 90's?

did you sleep for 8 years?

[cali]

8. No. I don't. And I wasn't asleep.

I think they treated her horridly but I still think it's a misuse of the word "terrorize".

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

39. You say potato...

It was an attempt by the right wing to undo the results of a lawful election.

When terrorists can't get their way, they blow up airplanes. These guys just blew up an administration -- and basically drove Vince Foster to suicide. So we've got a body count.

Oswald used a rifle. Ailes used Fox News. Less bloodly, but still pretty damned effective.

Terrorize?

Sit at the bedside of somebody dying of an entirely preventable disease and tell me it's not terrible. These bastards created the Clinton scandals as a vehicle to ensure that we didn't get universal health care.

Terrorize.

[rocktivity]

2. No, we're older and wiser

and there are now way too many Rethugs who have gotten away with far worse for them to successfully take the moral high ground.

This will roll off our backs just like Rew. Wright did.

:headbang:
rocknation

[tridim]

6. Not to mention that Bush got away with murder during his term..

and wasn't impeached.

At this point, most people understand that Clinton should have never been impeached for what he did.

[Cha]

3. All's not revealed yet but

this has nothing to do with Obama and every bit to do with a seemingly corrupt governor..who cares if he's a "dem"?

[Doctor_J]

13. I guess you haven't read any newspapers this AM.

Every media outlet in the country is tying Obama to Blago (prompted by the balst fax from the RNC)

[Billy Shears]

22. should we slip you the sedative now, Chicken Little, or do you prefer flailing around like a buffoon

[Doctor_J]

28. Yeah, you're right. The Repukes and Big Media will probably be cooperative

and respectful to Obama.

Why don't you go in the corner and hold your breath and wait for that?

[GarbagemanLB]

24. Give me some of what you are using. I love hallucinogens.

[Doctor_J]

29. Wha??

here's my post:

Every media outlet in the country is tying Obama to Blago (prompted by the blast fax from the RNC)

Where is the hallucinatory part?

[LisaM]

5. A guy on Thom Hartmann this morning said six Illinois governors have been indicted

WTF is going on there?

[rocktivity]

30. All Dems?

and all in Obama's home state? Yep, this DOES seem familiar...

:eyes:
rocknation

[gkhouston]

31. Ryan was a Republican, IIRC. n/t

[LisaM]

35. No, not all Dems

It just seems like a rather high percentage of governors.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

40. Now that you mention it...

That really is a boatload of indicted governors.

Otto Kerner and Dan Walker I remember from my childhood. But Walker was indicted (and convicted) years after he left office.

My favorite was Paul Powell, Illinois Secretary of State who died while being treated at the Mayo Clinic. They found shoeboxes with $800,000 in cash in his hotel room in Rochester. This was in 1970, with $800K was a SERIOUS amount of cash.

[Cleita]

7. Also, talking about Nixon blowing a peace agreement LBJ had worked out

to end the Vietnam war. It turns out Nixon had committed treason and LBJ tried to keep this from going public because he didn't want it to hinder a Nixon Presidency should he be elected. Thanks a lot LBJ. It turns out you enabled the old white guys party to turn into the crooks and liars party that this country has had to suffer under too many years of their being in power in the past fifty years. This is what happens when you let your politicos get away with treason and murder. It's being done again with Bush/Cheney. Those criminals will be walking into the sunset and we are going to have to put up with eight more years of Obama being constantly attacked by GOP operatives.

[IADEMO2004]

9. Thom Vision link My new favorite

http://airamerica.com/thomvision/

[SuperTrouper]

10. Not if we have the majority. Obama will be a successful and popular President

[Doctor_J]

18. Clinton was successful and had a 65% approval rating. What does that

have to do with the GOP terrorizing Obama?

[bluestateguy]

11. I will not tolerate criticism of the Commander in Chief during a time of war

nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. yeah! those fucking traitors. nt

[AspenRose]

16. Bwah!

:thumbsup:

[Cosmocat]

25. OH, that get out of jail free card expires ...

sometime in mid January of 2009 ...

[Skidmore]

14. The difference between Obama and the Clintons

is that I believe he is fundamentally clean and some of the stuff the Rs hammered away with on the Clintons were true. Bill just manufactured and gave them the napalm to throw.

I lost respect for them a long time ago and over many policy issues. Can we start with NAFTA? Or Kosovo? Or Rwanda?

[EFerrari]

15. I largely agree but since then, the Republicans have figured out that it doesn't matter

if the smear is true or not.

I've been fully expecting them to start up on Obama. It's surprising that they haven't done more sooner.

[Doctor_J]

17. Exactly. It doesn't matter whether it's true or not. Big Media is already running Obama=Blago

and Clinton was impeached for having extramarital sex.

[beachmom]

19. Oh, please. If the shoe was on the other foot, we would be hitting the Repubs as well.

Say there was a GOP Pres Elect and the governor of his state was arrested on corruption charges. Damn straight we would go after the Pres and try to nail him/her with everything we could.

I have no problem with going after Obama with the truth. The truth is he helped Blago become governor in '02 and endorsed him in '06. He did encourage state lawmakers to pass a states ethics bill, so that's good. But generally speaking, I don't see Obama as a big reformer of Illinois state politics. He was going onto bigger things. That's fine, but he doesn't come across as a hero to me here.

If the Right ventures into lies, well then we fight back with our much more mature media. There is also the fact that the previous Republican governor of Illinois also went to jail, so they should be careful with this one.

IF Obama does a good job governing, and the Democrats in Congress do a good job, then we will retain the Congress each election cycle. Then the Repubs won't have the votes for impeachment. And, really, Obama is a lot cleaner than Clinton ever was. Some of the stuff, you know, was true, about Clinton.

[Doctor_J]

20. Snark. Stop listening to Rush. How many Repukes have been arrested for ANYTHING

over the last 8 years? If a GOP governor were arrested for anything I would die from shock.

[theboss]

34. We won a Senate seat because the Republican Senator was indicted, arrested, and convicted

So...there you go.

And Craig was arrested and is awaiting trial.

I mean, it's happened.

[Occam Bandage]

42. Blagojevich's Republican predecessor, for one. Did you die when Ryan got thrown in?

[Occam Bandage]

44. Plus Cunningham, Abramoff, Libby, Stevens, DeLay, and Foley.

Pretty impressive list.

[Billy Shears]

21. The Minority in Congress ain't impeaching anybody

You forget that it was the Clintons and their closet full of skeletons that the Repukes had to play with last time.

Obama is a totally different animal. The best they have on him is guilt by association. And nobody's buying that anymore.

[tigereye]

23. the timing of this is really, really weird.

and it's Fitzgerald, again. :eyes:



Sure the Illinois gov sounds like a piece of work, but....

[Doctor_J]

27. And let's not forget the 6:00 AM Frog March

instead of just letting him turn himself in.

[Occam Bandage]

41. Fitz explicitly explained the timing.

1. He wanted to keep Blago from selling Obama's seat.
2. He wanted to keep Blago from extorting the Trib into firing its editors.

[Thrill]

26. It doesn't help when Obama already has Liberals blasting him

on cabinet picks and policy before he even takes office

[Alter Ego]

32. Yeah, I don't think so unless they execute another Contract on America.

You need a Senate and House majority to pull off a successful impeachment.

[zulchzulu]

33. Of course! The Repigs are hell-bent on maintaining Bush policies at all costs

The way to get back at them is to shoot back. Say there is a Senator (R) protesting a little too much... go after them like jackals. Everyone has something to hide. Just peel it back relentlessly.

Play nice and they steal your dice.

[cooolandrew]

36. I think Barack has such a way of communicating that impeachment won't be an issue. He knows how to >

gater people for a common purpose and that will show in the coming months.

[FloridaGrl]

37. He will not be impeached

however I agree with Hartmann's comment.

[Bucky]

38. How absurd. 1) Blago's indictment wasn't a shot at Obama. 2) He won't be impreached

It took the Republicans 4 years to work up the balls to impeach Clinton and they hated him 10 times worse than they do Obama.

When Clinton won the White House, there was already an overall Republican trend in Congressional seats. Obama is riding (and fueling) a wave of pro-Democratic politics. The chances of us losing the House in 2010 are remote. There is zero chance of us losing the Senate in the next election.

[The Stranger]

43. I'm sure glad the Pelosi Traitor didn't even use the threat of impeachment, especially

given that there is a war criminal in the White House.

With "Democrats" like the Pelosi Traitor, who needs Republicans?

[McCamy Taylor]

45. Yes, I agree.

[DailyGrind51]

46. I have lived in Illinois for 57 years. Trust me, Blago had it coming!

[VOX]

47. But, but, but wait...Aren't the...the...**LIBERAL MEDIA** gonna just gush over Obama 24/7 ???

:sarcasm: O'Reilly has proved this beyond a shadow of any doubt !!! :sarcasm:

[Willo]

48. I go with create

they will get tired of looking for stuff that doesn't exist and...

The Sting and Oceans 11 comes to mind.