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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:07 AM
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Vote in this MSNBC poll; connection between Obama to Blagojevich?
Please keep kicked.

http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2008/12/10/2197979-do-you-think-the-charges-against-gov-blagojevich-will-hurt-president-elect-obamas-administration

Currently
58.7% - No; there is no evidence that Obama was involved in the alleged corruption
12.6% - Possibly; he began his career in the city and his inner circle is dominated by Chicago veterans
25% - Yes; I'd be surprised if there hadn't been communication about the Senate seat between the two sides
3.6% - I'm not sure yet
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:15 AM
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1. Done, but how did we devolve to this point?
If I think they every communicated about it, Obama is involved in the corruption? NO...
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:17 AM
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5. How many ways are there to say NO, he was NOT involved??
:crazy:
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 04:09 PM
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18. You missed my point. It is a misleading choice, saying that if Obama even talked to Blago, he is
automatically involved. We all know perfectly well that is false and misleading. We've seen arguments like this before. It's like the 'I support the troops' horse waste.

Your comment sounded like you thought I didn't believe or understand that of course Obama is clean. It bugs me because of how hard I worked to help him. I am a huge fan and I love and appreciate him and his family.

That is all.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:18 PM
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19. Sorry if I was unclear-- I didn't mean it that way...
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 05:21 PM by ailsagirl
I'm a little out of it today!! (I shouldn't get online when I am!!)

:hi:
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 09:06 PM
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24. Thank you so much for helping me understand what you meant.
Aloha.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:47 PM
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26. Thank you for pointing out my blunder...
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 12:47 PM by ailsagirl
:fistbump:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:56 PM
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23. This was all PLANNED by the Bush administration. Its Whitewater II.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:24 AM
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2. Very misleading poll, choice between "communication" and "involved in alleged corruption" is narrow
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 04:06 PM
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17. Exactly. Thanks.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:00 AM
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3. Done!
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:16 AM
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4. Done
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:21 AM
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6. Since when did we decide guilt or innocence based off an online poll?
For MSNBC to put such a poll up when they know there is no evidence of a connection only serves to legitimize baseless accusations. I refuse to participate in their game, I am not going to vote in a poll that was set up with the intent to make people think that an innocent person may have committed crimes.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 12:16 PM
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13. Since the MSM decides everyone must be tried in the media and not in a court of law
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:26 AM
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7. When I got on my 'puter I saw a
msnbc news line that stated, "Obama tries to distance himself from blago" and I knew what they're trying to do.

Create a controversary for ratings when there are none.

We need media reform and Obama's the guy to do it.

msnbc and all that shit is like a little celebrity rag that polls who looks best in the same dress.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:27 AM
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8. done.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:28 AM
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9. We can leave comments.."short and classy" unlike
their poll.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:41 AM
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10. Aside from that the poll intentionally equates communication between two Illinois officials
With conspiracy to accept bribes, why is this a poll question anyway? Regardless of what people think about it, it happened or it didn't.
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Hersheygirl Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 12:04 PM
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11. Done
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 12:13 PM
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12. What a stupid poll
Folks in the msm have certainly lost their minds.
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skeewee08 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 12:25 PM
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14. Done!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 12:35 PM
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15. Kick what? This is bullshit.
"Did Obama beat his wife?"

Yes, Only a little
Yes, Constantly
No, I can't be sure he's beating his wife.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 03:16 PM
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16. Don't forget this one.....
Yes; I'd be surprised if there hadn't been communication about the Senate seat between the two sides

same in your poll as "Is Barack and Michelle married?"
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:44 PM
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20. Done - No is at 62% now.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:54 PM
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21. Done. No = 41,492 votes; Possibly = 8,083 votes; Yes = 14,533 votes
According to the New York Times, it was a phone call *from* Obama that got the ball rolling on this.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:56 PM
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22. And they're OFF!!!
The campaign to smear Obama before he can enact any substantive reforms is underway!

Let's ask an unscientific sample of under-informed people (this just happened yesterday - I personally haven't read the indictment) what THEY think based on a vaguely worded internet poll.

And then show that nearly a third of voters think the scandal will effect the Obama Administration.


And then we'll show video clips of Dan Rostenkowski and every other crooked Chicago politician over the last forty years and suggest that Obama is "part of a disturbing pattern" of political corruption in Chicago.

I don't even need to get the memo from the RNC to see this one coming.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:56 PM
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27. Exactly, nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 09:44 PM
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25. done...
assholes.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:57 PM
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28. # 1 and #3 are not mutually exclusive.
Bad poll.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:12 PM
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29. Done.
But I think the title of the poll is complete and utter bullshit -- a classic no-win type of question that links Obama to the scandal anyway. A classic "When did you stop beating your wife" type of thing -- that, as well as the second question.

So when do we begin hearing about this with the preface, "The scandal that threatens to overshadow the incoming administration..."?

The media are a joke. But then, most of us already knew that.

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