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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:47 PM
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PPP NY Senate Poll: Caroline Kennedy 41%, Andrew Cuomo 23%
Kennedy Top Choice for New York Democrats

Raleigh, N.C. – Caroline Kennedy is the most popular pick with New York Democrats as Hillary Clinton’s replacement in the Senate, the newest survey from Public Policy Polling finds.

44% say she’s their top choice, with another 24% saying she’s their second choice from a list of potential candidates. The only other potential appointee to break double figures is Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who was the top pick for 23% of respondents and the second with 35%. The other six candidates polled, including four members of Congress and two prominent local government officials, were the favored choice with anywhere from 3 to 6% of those surveyed.

Kennedy and Cuomo are each very popular with New York Democrats. Kennedy is viewed favorably by 75% and unfavorably by just 11%. Cuomo has a 76% approval rating in his work as Attorney General with just 9% unhappy with his job performance. “It’s clear that Caroline Kennedy and Andrew Cuomo are the only candidates under serious consideration who have much name recognition,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “The good news for David Paterson is that both of them are very popular with the Democratic base, and he couldn’t really go wrong by appointing either of them.”

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NY_1209.pdf
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:52 PM
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1. Right, because what's MOST important in NY State like CA Govenorship is "celebrity." eom
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:55 PM
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10. Why is it okay to back Al Franken but not Kennedy? Isn't he more of a celebrity?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:57 PM
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11. uh, there's a difference between RUNNING for office and being APPOINTED
Embarassing that this even needs to be pointed out.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:01 PM
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15. She's not being appointed for life, just to fill out a term. If she wants to stay,
she'll have to run like everyone else.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:04 PM
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16. oh please. incumbency is a huge advantage. That's why the gov
should appoint a place holder. Would she even be considered if not for her family name? Not. A. Chance.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:23 PM
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20. The Rethugs certainly want him to appoint a placeholder, to give their guy
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 09:23 PM by pnwmom
a better chance.

I'd rather give an edge to a progressive Democrat.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 07:59 AM
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38. incumbency is not a "huge" advantage for appointed senators
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 07:59 AM by onenote
Since 1970, there have been 30 appointed senators. Twelve subsequently won election, eleven lost, and seven for one reason or another didn't run.


Incumbency is a big advantage for elected incumbents. For appointed senators? Not so much apparently.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:07 PM
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18. Did I ever claim to back Al Franken? But he's not the "cult of personality" type that is "Kennedy"
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:26 PM
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21. Caroline doesn't strike me as a typical Kennedy. I don't think the cult types
are in love with her.

But she's a very accomplished, very solid woman who has the connections to easily put an organization together. And she'll have no trouble fundraising. I think she's NY's best bet for retaining a Democrat in Hillary's spot.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:29 PM
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22. I agree!!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:02 PM
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24. Yes, calling her simply "Caroline" suggests to me what you may think is IMPORTANT .... :(
for a legislative LEADER, i.e., celebrity and birthright.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:23 PM
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26. Talk about jumping to conclusions based on nothing. I've called lots of
politicians by their first names at times, including Barack, Dennis, and Hillary.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:37 PM
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27. I'm sorry, but it's SAD that you are supporting the notion of a "Ruling Political Class."
It's just sad - I'm disappointed in many here but it won't be the first time.

Have a nice night! I'm sure "Caroline" is saying her prayers for the benefit of all "struggling" New Yorkers. GENETIC wise, she has the birthright of NOBILITY and we should not deny her destiny. :puke: :eyes:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:42 PM
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28. Why should she be excluded because she shares some of the same genes
as other Kennedys?

Why should her relatives count against her?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:45 PM
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29. Excluded? Hell no! Let's place her to the front of the line because she's NOBILTY
due to GENETICS. :crazy: :puke:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 02:30 AM
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33. Who can you recommend in NY State who has better fund raising capability?
Who, as a freshman, would immediately have more influence and respect than she would?

Who has a personal connection with Obama and his administration?

Who also has a strong record supporting progressive issues?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:03 PM
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30. Like first ladies, Kennedys are referred to by first names to differentiate. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:53 PM
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2. New Yorkers like her
for the job..imagine that!
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:56 PM
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3. True
imagine that!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 07:58 PM
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4. It's hard ot believe that in a state this large....
... this is the best we can do.

I'd like to see Paterson break the mold and appoint someone from outside the political world, altogether. Someone from academia , perhaps. Or even from the judiciary. Or education. ( but not Klein ).

How about a US prosecutor like Mary Jo White?
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:01 PM
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5. Caroline is outside the political world. nm
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:26 PM
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8. Dynasty. This isn't Great Britain.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:00 PM
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13. Like hell she is
That last name is her golden key to the political world.

Not to say that she wouldn't be a great politician.

But everyone would KNOW she's part of a political dynasty.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:00 AM
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39. how about we concentrate on electing someone who can win reelection
someone who has the name recognition and fundraising ability to keep the state in the Dem column?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:01 PM
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6. And if we didn't have campaigns, Giuliani would have run away with the White House.
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 08:02 PM by Occam Bandage
She's never run a campaign before. Patterson would be appointing her with only the blind hope that she possesses the traits that make a good campaigner as well as an effective legislator.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:19 PM
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7. Exactly...
Let her run two years down the road...
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golpe Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 08:37 PM
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9. I hear complaints that dynasties aren't good. Will anyone complain about Cuomo and Kennedy?
Who are related to big Democrats from the past? I often hear that Hillary can't be nominated to this and that because Clinton was already president and the limit of family members in office should be 1.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:00 PM
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12. It doesn't bother me when family members follow each other into politics
Edited on Tue Dec-09-08 09:00 PM by pnwmom
any more than it does when they follow each other into the medical field, or the arts, or engineering. It's not unusual that kids who grow up surrounded by adults with strong interests come to share those interests.

All I care about is that we elect competent, intelligent, effective progressives. Who their parents or other relatives are doesn't concern me.

Welcome to DU!
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:00 PM
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14. Caroline will be the next Senator of NY.
Good for her! IMO she will be great. She is smart, speaks well, looks well, is charismatic, knows exactly what she is getting herself into, has major connections, and appears to be honest and credible. What more would you want?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:05 PM
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17. I don't think she speaks terribly well at all.
And what I would want is no special advantages for someone based on the family name.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:08 PM
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19. Genetics is a powerful factor in politics...
and she has one of the best political genes. You could see it when she was campaigning with Obama. I think she will be great.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 09:55 PM
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23. Eugenics ho!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:05 PM
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25. F**k GENETICs and POLITICAL ROYALTY! There is NOT "a political caste system" in this Country.
If there is one forming ... LET'S NIP IT IN THE BUD?!?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:37 AM
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37. By genetics I mean actual genetics -- some people are natural born leaders and politicians..
The Kennedys, for better or worse, appear to have that set of genes.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:11 PM
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32. Really!?!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 11:03 PM
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31. Is being a great speaker that important? If it is, it shouldn't be. nt
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 08:05 AM
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40. but the reality is that a family name always is an advantage in politics - ask Al Gore
Al was in law school when his father's old congressional seat opened up. He won in a multi-candidate field by getting 32 percent of the vote. Without his family name, he would never have won that seat, never gone on to be Senator, Vice President and champion of the fight against climate change. Did Teddy Kennedy's name not help him? Was that a bad thing? When and if, as expected, Beau Biden runs, will folks complain that his resume is what it is because of his name? There are countless other examples.

If Caroline has the right stuff, she'll win in the primary and win in the GE. If not, like more than half of appointed Senators, she'll either decide not to run or be defeated in the primary or general in a couple of years.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 04:57 AM
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34. If JFK Jr was alive today he would be shoe-in for the Senate position...
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 04:58 AM by my3boyz
if he wanted it. He as the ultimate New Yorker! He was a pretty good speaker too...........I always thought he would probably be involved with politics on some level in the future. I was very sad when he died so suddenly...........
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:44 AM
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35. Perhaps Obama had a little say in this.
He did make a position available.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 06:02 AM
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36. Yep.
I think that she is going to accept the Governor's offer.
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Augdog20 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 08:14 PM
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41. Vote in my poll /Dislike idea of Kennedy royalty / aristocracy inheriting Clinton's senate seat?seat
Think that it smacks of aristocratic royalty for Caroline "no officeholder resume" Kennedy to become annointed senator?

Rep. Ackerman said that J. Lo. would make as good a senator.

Vote in my poll of your choice for NY senator replacement of Hillary Clinton:

http://bluesunited.blogspot.com
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