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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:01 AM
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Wow, Obama's popular vote total just over 69,000,000
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/

This site provides a pretty comprehensive summary of all presidential elections....Keep in mind though, they like to be different, HERE Democrats=RED & Rethugs=Blue....

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:01 AM
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1. This is the best website ever created. It is fantastic.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:03 AM
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2. It is---with only one flaw
Why does Liep insist on reversing the traditional party colors?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:04 AM
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3. Look at old election night coverage. There is no such thing as "traditional colors".
They flipped for years. Blue used to be incumbent and red was challenger.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 03:17 PM
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19. There are, however, standard colors now.
Our liberal party is blue. Our conservative party is red. Yes, this is a relatively recent development. Yes, this is backwards from the rest of the world. So what? It's arbitrary either way. Why use a scheme that runs counter to what your viewers are familiar with?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:03 AM
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24. Is it really that hard to figure out, tough?
I mean, they provide a color code and everything.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:12 AM
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5. on election night, one of the networks revealed "red" use to be the color used for Dems... but.....
... they decided they didn't want people to misconstrue red - as in communist.

More from wiki:

Early on, some channels used a scheme of red for Democrats and blue for Republicans. The first television news network to use colors to depict the states won by presidential candidates was NBC. In 1976, John Chancellor, the anchorman for the NBC Nightly News, asked his network's engineers to construct a large electronic map of the USA. The map was placed in the network's election-night news studio. If Jimmy Carter, the Democratic candidate that year, won a state it would light up in red; if Gerald Ford, the Republican, carried a state it would light up in blue. The feature proved to be so popular that four years later all three major television networks would use colors to designate the states won by the presidential candidates. NBC continued to use the color scheme employed in 1976 for several years; NBC newsman David Brinkley famously referred to the 1980 election map as showing Ronald Reagan's 44-state landslide as a "sea of blue".<5> CBS, from 1984 on, used the opposite scheme—blue for Democrats, red for Republicans. ABC used yellow for one major party and blue for the other in 1976. However, in 1980 and 1984, ABC used red for Republicans and blue for Democrats. As late as 1996, there was still no universal association of one color with one party.<6> If anything, by 1996, color schemes were relatively mixed, as CNN, CBS, ABC, and The New York Times referred to Democratic states with the color blue and Republican ones as red, while Time Magazine and the Washington Post used an opposite scheme.<7><8><9>

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:07 AM
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4. Jon Meecham was on Cspan yesterday and someone asked him a question
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 11:10 AM by Pirate Smile
saying "why did Obama only win by 4 million votes in this environment ...".

It just irritated me because he won by 10 million votes, dammit. It was taped on November 17th though and I'm not sure what the numbers were by that time.

Meecham did reiterate that Obama did win a mandate, he got well over 50% and most elections have been very close in the recent history so Obama's win was actually very large considering that.

edit to add - nice website but it freaked my brain out for a minute with the colors swapped - McCain in blue, Obama in red - ahhhhhh!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:28 AM
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8. There was a tool on MSNBC the other day
who said the Supreme Court likely wouldn't overturn the will of 44 million voters (re: the birth certificate issue). He was a so called expert on with David Shuster. He didn't say anything about how ludicrous the case was, and then to downgrade PE Obama's vote count to 44 million?! How intellectually dishonest can one person get?! :eyes:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:19 PM
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22. Pete Williams. But he DID say he'd bet any amount of money that they wouldn't take the case. I
made the same comment here the day he said it-two separate times-the 44 million number. :eyes:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:19 AM
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6. We kicked McCain's ass
That's all there is to it.
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DrPresident Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:08 PM
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13. shit, we kicked Republican's asses LOL
not just McCain's
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:09 PM
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14. OK, we kicked Republican ass up and down the street
booya!
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:25 AM
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7. I think California still has a large block of votes to report
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 11:33 AM by Hokie
If these break strongly for Obama he may hit 70,000,000 in the final totals. I seem to remember that California will not issue any new totals until the final totals are due in mid December. I will search some older posts and update if I can find the link.

Update:

This is a link to the CA SOS report of the unprocessed ballots: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/c-status08/total_unprocessed_ballots08.pdf
As of November 24 it was 1.7 million. Since they are no longer updating the report I cannot determine how many are still not included in the 69 million figure in the OP.
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 12:15 PM
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9. kick...
one of the many interesting things about that site is what you get if you total up the PV. It's over 130 million. A lot of people, including myself were wondering why, when everyone was talking about massive turnout, the PV totals were so close to 2004's. Some were wondering about vote suppression. Well, it turns out that about 8 million more people voted in this election than in 2004. Interesting.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 12:16 PM
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10. I see that Barr and Nader both got less than one percent
People were not in the mood for third party candidates this year.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 01:44 PM
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11. I thought Barr would get more votes
I guessed that a lot of Ron Paul voters might have vote for Barr. Barr did worse than "Other", however. Nader has turned into the Harold Stassen of the modern era.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:10 PM
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15. That's Interesting especially since I
had an encounter with a true nader believer before the election. A friendly acquaintance of mine who is of Lebonese Heritage..go figure.

I must say..you can learn a lot about a person when they open up about who they support to run our country.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 01:57 PM
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12. It's a MANDATE, baby!
Great site!

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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:55 PM
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16. I was looking at some more results of the 2008 election:
Obama won one county in Oregon (Jackson County) by 47 votes out of about 100,000 cast in the county...

It's interesting to go back & look at each state & the various counties to see how they voted....

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 03:34 PM
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20. Haven't done that yet, but I will.
:hi:

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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 02:56 PM
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17. yuck -- they use the historic color scheme. Hard to follow in these days of red&blue n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 03:14 PM
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18. His color scheme kinda sucks.
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 03:15 PM by Occam Bandage
1. This is America. In America, our liberal party is blue and our conservative party is red. Yes, this is backwards from the rest of the world. Yes, it is almost entirely the result of the 2000 imbroglio and the pure happenstance that the networks picked those colors for that year's election. Get over it. Dems are blue, Republicans are red, and everybody uses that color scheme now.

2. I understand making states darker the stronger-leaning they are. However, with the color values he uses, he makes the strongest-leaning states look most like each other (as a very dark blue and a very dark red just look...dark) while tossup states are bright and vibrant. Instead, he should have used his tossup colors for the very strong states, and then gotten lighter the weaker the advantage, so a very gentle pastel represents a close election, and a vibrant red or blue a blowout.

3. His cutoffs are kind of ridiculous in the modern day. Most every state will be in the 50% bracket, with only very few in the 40% and 60%. Making the steps every 5% instead of every 10% would make his color maps much more informative.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:06 PM
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21. LOL, I was confused for a sec 'til I realized it was the old colors scheme.
IMO would should go back to the traditional Dems = red and Pukes = Blue, it would bring us in line with Europe, where left-wing parties are red and right-wing parties are blue.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:24 PM
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23. WOW, in my county (Clay Country, MN) Obama won by 57%.. McLame got only 40%!!!
And this is a pretty conservative area when you get outside of Moorhead! :wow:
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