Obama will need a replacement Secretary of State in

[SwampG8r]

eta:i voted 4 years
eta again:i cannot believe i have to actually say this

if obama NEEDS a SoS in 4 years then he has been re elected
got it?
if he was not elected to a second term he would have NO NEED for any cabinet posts

simple linear thinking

[Occam Bandage]

1. I think she'll serve for the entire first term. nt

[GarbagemanLB]

2. 4 years. The Clinton haters, of which I was one until I matured, will obviously be disappointed.

The primary is over, and Obama has made his choice. She is obviously capable, and we will just have to see how it turns out.

[yurbud]

12. "until you matured"? that's embarrassingly ham-handed PR shill comment

Hillary has lost my respect as a senator and even more as a candidate by going along with the worst of Bush's foreign policy, and then embracing some of the ugliest power brokers of the right like Ruppert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh during her presidential campaign. That not only shows a lack of a moral center, but of even a good Machiavellian compass.

I appreciated that Bill may have slowed the right wing onslaught on the middle class when he was president, but this is a different time. With the right in utter defeat, we don't need to reward their "me too" cheerleaders in the DLC.

[jobycom]

3. You don't think Obama can win re-election?

[SwampG8r]

4. thats is not the question of this poll

i know he will be re elected but many second terms are very different from first terms
and many shakeups will occur within the cabinet to facilitate those differences

[jobycom]

5. It is the assumption of your choices.

[SwampG8r]

6. it is your assumption and yours alone

after re election the president must appoint and have confirmed a new cabinet
even if it consists of the same members the process must be repeated even though the repetition is abbreviated the second time

eta:hows this assumption?if obama needs a new SoS after 4 years it would mean he was re elected
that is the only proper assumption one can make from the wording of this OP

[jobycom]

10. That's wrong, but even if it were right

Obama if he wins reelection might need a replacement in five or six or seven years. Four years puts him near, but not at, the end of his first term. Even if his SoS did have to be re-nominated and re-confirmed, it wouldn't be a replacement unless he chose someone different.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

7. Personally, I think he will win a second term

but perhaps by that time Clinton will decide to do other things.

[SwampG8r]

8. as do i

the only way he NEEDS a SoS in 4 years is after he wins his second term
the math must have confused them
or the difference between wants and needs

[Ian David]

9. None of the above. Hillary will reproduce by asexual budding and there will be TWO of her.

Obama will then need to cabinet positions for BOTH Hillarys.

And after another four years, there will be FOUR Hillarys, all running for President against one another at the same time.

Which ever Hillary doesn't hire Mark Penn has the best chance of winning.

But boy, it will be an ugly campaign.

[NYC_SKP]

19. LOL....

Best and most disturbing reply in this thread.

:rofl:

[Marsala]

11. Why does Obama need a replacement for SoS at all?

Granted, it doesn't seem likely that Hillary - or anyone - would stay in the office for eight years, but there's no reason why that can't happen.

[yurbud]

13. the OP must have left out something

[Gidney N Cloyd]

15. It's rarer than I would have guessed to last 8 years.

I skimmed over the list at http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/po/1682.htm and I only see John Quincy Addams and William Seward (Lincoln's) going the full two terms.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

23. It never has.

No 2-term president has *ever* had fewer than two secretaries of state serve under them (although there have been SoSes who have served that long under multiple presidents, I think).

[greguganus]

14. 48 business hours. n/t

[high density]

16. I think she'll serve for a couple of years and retire

I'll be rather surprised if she makes it four years.

[Beacool]

17. Retire?

You obviously don't know Hillary. It is not in her genetic makeup. Hillary and Bill have to be busy always, long term relaxation is not in their nature. They have dedicated their lives to service and they are only in their early sixties. Why retire, and to do what?

[ecstatic]

18. ibtl

[Donald Ian Rankin]

20. The US has had 10 secretaries of state in 30 years, so I voted 3 years.

(Not counting acting secretaries of state). If you look back a century, the number is pretty close to 30, too, so it seems reasonably steady on average.

That said, they seem to vary quite heavily around the mean - it seems likely that Clinton will either be gone in a year or two, or last for at least four.

[MoonRiver]

21. "Obama will need a replacement Secretary of State in".....

YOUR DREAMS! :rofl:

[Donald Ian Rankin]

22. No president since LBJ has had fewer than two secretaries of state serve under them.

No two-term president has *ever* had fewer than two secretaries of state, although James Monroe and Thomas Jefferson only had one non-acting SoS.

So - although Clinton may very well achieve other great things afterwards - she may well move on to another post in an Obama cabinet, and/or I would be amazed to see her become President in 2016 - I will be surprised if Obama doesn't look for another SoS at some point, especially if he wins in 2012.