This is certainly change.

[BobRossi]

Okay, I wasn't even going to vote in the presidential election this year until I was convinced that Barack was the right person. I was really taken in by all that "change" rhetoric.
Now that he has re-instated the Clinton cabinet he is now continuing shrub's tax policy.

I think I should have stayed with my gut feelings.

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President-elect Barack Obama may consider delaying a campaign promise - to roll back tax cuts on high-income Americans - as part of his economic recovery strategy, two aides said on Sunday.

David Axelrod, the Obama campaign strategist who was chosen to be a senior White House adviser, was asked if the tax cuts could be allowed to expire on schedule after tax year 2010 rather than being rolled back by legislation earlier. "Those considerations will be made," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081123/pl_nm/us_usa_obama_taxes_5

[babylonsister]

1. Contact your precinct. Maybe you can get your vote cancelled. nt

[LaurenG]

2. Lol

that was funny! :rofl:

[cliffordu]

5. Rofl.....nice!!

:rofl:

[cali]

23. lol. beautiful.

:rofl:

[wisteria]

44. A stupid reply that really doesn't address a real concern.

Go ahead and keep ignoring what is really going on around you, keep that blind faith going.

[babylonsister]

59. The OP doesn't address any real concerns, my dear. It seems

a bit premature to me to start whining about the man; he hasn't even taken office. But join the chorus, as I'm quite sure you will, being kinda grouchy that way.

[msongs]

3. how dare you have an independent opinion and challege the conventional wisdom : - ) nt

[BobRossi]

8. What was I thinking?

I forgot for a moment where I was posting. I'll drink some Kool-Aid and be better in no time.

[firedupdem]

16. You had reservations about voting for him...the two issues you

listed have done it for you...and the people who choose to support the President Elect until at least January 20th! are drinking kool-aid? As soon as I hear that term, I know who and what I'm dealing with. I'm sure you did forget where you were posting!

Sounds to me like your goal is to start a dissension party here.

[wisteria]

46. No maybe some voter remorse after seeing what was promised being reneged on.

And, dissent is a good thing. It is why we are called the United States of America and not the American Colony of Great Britain.

[Shakespeare]

53. What has he reneged on?

Please, do tell.

[Shakespeare]

60. Yeah, didn't think so.

He's reneged on NOTHING to date.

[firedupdem]

61. I thought you left on friday? Done for good with Obama? Wanted

your money back? Only voted for him for Kerry or some reason like that? Why are you still hanging around? You're done remember? Nothing good could come out of you being here since your're done already? Don't you have something else to do?

[Shakespeare]

22. Tell you what. You criticize all you want, but don't call those who support him koolaid drinkers.

Or do you fail to see the irony of your own comments?

[cali]

26. yes, yes. everyone who disagrees with you is just a mindless

kool-aid drinker. How dare us peons challenge superior little you?

Your choice. Too bad you chose not to inform yourself. The info was right there. Obama always spoke of letting the bush tax cuts expire. He made no committment to try and repeal them via legislation.

[wisteria]

45. Yeah! n/t

[firedupdem]

4. I think you have stayed with your gut feelings. He hasn't been

given the oath of office yet and you're already done? Not giving him much of a chance huh?

[gblady]

6. as stated....

in another thread on this subject....

letting it expire in 2010 is what Barack said he would do
over and over and over in his stump speeches...

absolutely no change in plans here...
people just don't seem to listen to what he has said.

[stray cat]

7. It sounds like a smart economical and political move

No records of dems raising taxes and not having raising taxes slow the economy further. My understanding is a slow economy loses more money based on reduced tax revenue than a years worth of increased taxes on those making greater than 250,000 per year.

[ben_meyers]

9. This isn't from Obama himself, it's from his "aides"

and it's a very clever ploy to get the greedy rich bastards to dig up their ill gotten gains from the backyard and out from under their mattresses and invest it in the stock market. This will have the effect of continuing the rally started Friday. Then when it's to late and these bloodsuckers have made their undeserved profits.. tax the hell out of them!

Pure genius.

[Shoelace]

10. and to think, you could have voted for McCain/Palin!

now that would have been real change eh?lol.:sarcasm:

[BobRossi]

11. Or a Progressive Liberal

Gee what a concept.

[cali]

28. bwahahaha. yeah, you could have voted for Cynthia McKinney

or Ralph the repuke tool. Wow. What integrity you have.

Thanks for the laugh.

:rofl:

[Kajsa]

30. Right!

And what were his/her chances of actually winning
the Presidential election?

[glowing]

12. I thought during the campaign, he said he'd let them expire. I didn't hear him say,

"as soon as I take office, those rich bastards are going to start paying." I think his first priority is to make sure people are working.. Working people pay taxes and support the govt. He's going to have to spend in order for new business to start.

[democracy1st]

13. its good to change your stances on issues when everything around you continues to collapse

[Arkana]

14. Well you should piss yourself with impotent anger because of something

the media probably reported incorrectly! That's how it's done, brother!

[Kdillard]

15. He is simply going to let the Bush tax cuts expire which he

promised to do over and over again. It will happen in 2010. I see the MSM is already trying to say Obama is not going to keep his promises but I thought people here who followed his campaign and speeches know better.

[Motown_Johnny]

17. Ah yes, I am sure he ran on raising taxes just because of all the votes that would win him. We all

know how popular a message that is.

Clearly he wants to continue Shrub's policies.




:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[mtnsnake]

18. It didn't take you long to blame the Clintons for shit that hasn't even happened yet.

Now that he has re-instated the Clinton cabinet he is now continuing shrub's tax policy

But to be fair, I'll mention that you're not only blaming the Clintons, but you're also blaming Obama. LOL!

[Kajsa]

19. Focusing solely on what he's NOT doing,

versus what he is going to do?

"The main thing right now is to get this economic recovery package on the road, to get money in the pockets of the middle class, to get these projects going, to get America working again, and that's where we're going to be focused in January," Axelrod said.
Obama said on Saturday he was crafting an aggressive two-year stimulus plan to revive the economy, aiming to save 2.5 million jobs by January 2011 through projects including transportation infrastructure, school modernization and alternative energy.

It doesn't sound like anyone could measure up to your expectations.

[me b zola]

20. If PE Obama's making this statement helps

calm wall street's anxiety--at least long enough for him to actually take office where he can actually do something--then I'm alright with it.

[ecstatic]

21. MSM framing. Obama said he would let the tax cuts expire

He never promised to immediately increase their taxes. That's the way the media is framing it to sow division amongst some knee-jerk Dems.

[kevinds13]

24. It seemed to me

that just letting the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010 was his intention all along. If not, he would have had to introduce legislation, hope it got passed in both houses, and expended political capital just to do that. So the fact that this is news is pretty surprising to me.

[RetroLounge]

25. "Now that he has re-instated the Clinton cabinet "

That sentence alone proves you know nothing...

RL

[Kajsa]

31. Touche, Retro!

I don't remember Bill Richardson in that cabinet, do you?

:pals:

Edit- He was- Nevermind.

[RetroLounge]

32. Nope...

But maybe there's a few Johnson or Carter appontees left somewhere.

I mean, there not exactly Clinton era...

:pals:

RL

[geek tragedy]

36. I do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Richardson

[Kajsa]

38. I stand corrected.

n/t

[jonnyblitz]

37. He was Secretary of Energy under Clinton.

so much for your "touche". :rofl:

[Kajsa]

40. I was wrong

and I promptly admit it.

[RetroLounge]

41. Well god forbid we have people with experience, you know?

:pals:

RL

[Kajsa]

48. Especially those who worked in an

administration that left us with a budget surplus!

:) :pals:

[RetroLounge]

56. Peace and Prosperity, who needs it?

:9

RL

[BlooInBloo]

51. Yup - I always wonder what magic-pony-land are the fucktard haters gonna get non-rookies from?

[RetroLounge]

57. Well, as long as they meet their criteria

black, gay, hispanic, female, non-clintonian, then they will not care about experience.

RL

[gristy]

27. Zynx thinks you're wrong

Just because someone served in the Clinton Administration does not mean they are a hardcore Clinton loyalist. The fact is that most professional quality Democrats who can serve in Obama's Administration will have likely served in some position, appointed or not, in the Clinton Administration. Obama is not going to comb colleges and universities for a bunch of people who have simply warm and fuzzy theories. He wants people who have seen some real world activity. Not a whole bunch of hair-brained idealists. Some of those young idealists will cut their teeth in the lower echelons of the Obama administration and become major officials in the future either in Obama's second term if he has one or in the next Democratic administration.

That's how the system works.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7916247#7916271

[cali]

29. have you fled?

I'd be embarassed to demonstrate that I paid so little attention that I didn't know what Obama said about the bush tax cuts.

[Dawgs]

33. Another dummy that can't wait until the guy actually becomes president.

Why am I not surprised there are still stupid people on DU?

[Dawgs]

34. And, he always said that he was going to let the Bush tax cuts on the rich expire.

I never thought, as someone that actually paid attention, that he was going to do anything different.

[DCBob]

35. So what would your gut feeling of not voting accomplished?

Even if you were not impressed with Obama, often elections come down to a lesser of two evils. Surely you would not want McCain/Palin running this country -- would you?

[sofa king]

39. BobR, a question for you.

You can just skip this over if you don't want to answer, but I just got finished writing a defense of the people of DU and their right to spout off when things bug 'em. So here's the question:

Can you give me some idea of what you wanted to see PE Obama do? Rolling back the tax break for the Monopoly Men is obviously one of 'em. What sort of cabinet did you want to see?

And here's a kind word for you, not meant to change your mind, but to perhaps lessen the anguish: the Clinton cabinet did a pretty good job in several areas, including competent economic management, government transparency, and extracting us from and avoiding nasty foreign entanglements (Bush the Smarter left Somalia as a problem for Clinton, and I was sure we were heading to one in the former Yugoslavia, but that one turned out okay).

If you ask me, Bill Clinton was the best Republican President we had in the 20th Century, and yes, I do think Obama is taking the same tack. I'm not elated about that either.

Thanks in advance for your comments.

[wisteria]

42. "meet the new boss,-same as the old boss"

Or bosses.

[Shakespeare]

43. LOL

No, really. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[wisteria]

47. Funny thing is I don't see it that way. And, I bet I have been through many more

Presidents than you have. Obama doesn't appear to be any different then the lot of them- at least that is what lessons from past history are telling me.

[Shakespeare]

52. Funny thing is, I don't recall any president since FDR proposing what Obama did yesterday.

The cabinet is only a small, small part of what he's going to do. And don't pull that "I'm older so I know more than you do" bullshit. I'm 44, used to cover politics as a reporter, and will put my knowledge up against anyone's.

If the "old boss" is FDR, then I'm all for it.

[BlooInBloo]

49. It's funny to see all of those who only pretended to support Obama...

They can't even wait until he takes office to declare him a failure.

:rofl:

You all fail fucking pathetically.

[babylonsister]

50. No kidding. They're coming out of the woodwork. nt

[walldude]

54. Yeah what an ass that Obama, how dare he play chess and

look at the long term while we are sitting here playing checkers, waiting for our instant gratification. :eyes:

[No Elephants]

55. By not voting, you would have helped McCain Palin. Let Obama take office before you decide he

is no good.

[L0oniX]

58. STFU ...you are making people here mad.

Don't you know that you are supposed to lock step with the seemingly majority here?

:evilgrin: