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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:03 PM
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Aren't there a number of past U.S. Presidents who had a birth parent of non-U.S. citizenship?
:shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:07 PM
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1. Yes, someone posted a list here yesterday
This case against Obama is bullshit.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:10 PM
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2. It's a three part case and one part has merit...sorta.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 02:11 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
Not the Obama or McCain part, but the third candidate was not born here.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:10 PM
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3. I believe there were six who are thought to have had African American descent. So, it's
not quite the novelty it would seem.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:11 PM
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George Bush's Grandfather was Satan
Does that count as non-citizenship?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:11 PM
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4. Freepers are grasping at straws on this one.
And no, I'm not talking about their crotchal areas.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:34 PM
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18. So are some DUers, I guess
since these stoopid threads keep popping up
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:48 PM
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5. I would say neither of George Washington's parents were US citizens.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:47 PM
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12. The Consitution made provision for those who were born to British parents
and on British land before Independence.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:05 PM
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22. Yes, but that wasn't the question.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 12:27 AM
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26. LOL!
:rofl:
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:49 PM
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6. By definition the first several presidents did! (Are the freeps going after George Washington now?)
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:00 PM
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7. Why are you concerned at all about this bullshit?
Obama is categorically a natural born us citizen. End of story.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:15 PM
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8. Chester Arthur might have been born in Canada.
It was a very minor scandal in the election of 1880, but since there were no records, it could not be proven either way.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:32 PM
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9. Not according this fine upstanding site:
Chester A. Arthur

Dignified, tall, and handsome, with clean-shaven chin and side-whiskers, Chester A. Arthur "looked like a President."

The son of a Baptist preacher who had emigrated from northern Ireland, Arthur was born in Fairfield, Vermont, in 1829. He was graduated from Union College in 1848, taught school, was admitted to the bar, and practiced law in New York City. Early in the Civil War he served as Quartermaster General of the State of New York.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ca21.html
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:00 PM
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10. The argument that BOTH parents have to be US citizens to confer citizenship is without basis.
It's an absurd position, argued by those who know nothing about law or history.

In other words, the people Clarence Thomas hangs out with.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:50 PM
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13. Yeah, this "birth parent origin confers split loyalty" is BS.
There's no end to that kind of reasoning, you could extend it to grandparents and down the line.

If you are going to have the requirement at all, geographic birth boundary is the only possible basis.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:31 PM
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17. It's literally the silliest notion I'd heard about Obama's birth.
What about bastards? Would they automatically have no citizenship, and exactly whose citizens would they be?
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Liberal Progressive Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:56 PM
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14. If they're right, then none of us are citizens.
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 07:57 PM by Liberal Progressive
Well, except for purebred native Americans.

After all, if my great, great, great grandparents weren't all Native-born, then none of their offspring were. Or their offspring's offspring. Or their offspring's offspring's offspring, etc. Guess I should just go back to England or Bohemia or Ireland or Germany or whatever other country I've never been to in the first place.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:46 PM
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11. If you are born inside the georaphic borders of the US, you are a natural born US citizen
The parents could be just visiting from another country, but the baby is a US citizen.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:59 PM
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15. Obama is the seventh President with a foreign-born parent

Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada.


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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:00 PM
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20. You left out George Washington and John Adams. nt
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:16 PM
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23. Neither of whom had foreign-born parents

Augustana Washington was born in Wakefield, Virginia.
Mary Ball was born in Lancaster County, Virginia.

John Adams, Sr. was born in Braintree, Massachusetts.
Susanna Boylston was born in Brookline, Massachusetts.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:08 PM
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16. ALL the early ones
As there was no US citizenship then.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:01 PM
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21. Even so, the parents of the early ones were not born in the New World. They were foreign-born.
The poster really should be asking which Presidents have had foreign-born parents AFTER the (constitutional?) requirement that the Prez be natural born.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 09:52 PM
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19. George Washington was the first, I think.
:evilgrin:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:17 PM
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24. Yeah, but they were all white, so no one cared. :-) NT
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:21 PM
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25. Exactly. That's why this rathole is pissing me off.
So many MAJOR challenges we need to work on and some people still just can't deal with a black guy. I am livid at these fucks!
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