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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:54 PM
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Deal with it......
President Elect Obama is working on putting the country back together again. He's picking his cabinet. Obviously you aren't going to like every one he picks. Deal with it.

You voted for Obama because you thought he was the best person to run the country. Let him put the team together that he thinks can best handle a HUGE task. Give him a little credit that he may just know what he's doing. Instead of nitpicking every single detail of what he says and who he nominates.....how about getting a little positive energy going instead of bitching about every nuance?

Geeeeeeeeeze Louise.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:56 PM
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1. Yeh... What he said !!
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:59 PM
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2. So in other words

No dissent will be tolerated at DU.

Sure sounds like what we've been told for the last 8 years.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:01 PM
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3. Dissent will be tolerated, but not agreed with in many cases.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:08 PM
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7. You wouldn't know that

From the responses I've personally gotten for questioning his choices.

I'm being placed on ignore and been accused of everything except child molestation for it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:13 PM
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11. Free speech......
as it is said often...if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is, after all, Democratic Underground.
We have supported the new President Elect in his quest to get elected,
and in fact, DUers have donated over $110,000+ to get him elected.

Patience is a virtue.....
and questioning his choices 17 days out
certainly is not going to bring you accolates here,
But then, I'm sure you knew that.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:35 PM
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18. Hear, hear!
Well said, FrenchieCat!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:47 PM
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14. I've been gang tackled on a thread for the same thing. amazing.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:05 PM
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4. Dissent carries more weight
When waged against actual work instead of the imagined ills of a team who have never even engaged as yet.

Just saying.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:31 PM
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15. Most of the dissent has been against actual work.
These are nominees with long records. Poor records, in many cases.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:34 PM
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17. Wrong. There has been zero work done in the Obama administration
As with any "job" the culture and work ethic and directives come from the top. Different bosses can get different work out of the same people.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:44 AM
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31. That sounds more like wishful thinking to me.
They aren't a team of robots for President Obama to program. Their ideas, personal beliefs, ambitions and agendas will be a part of the mix, regardless of how effective Obama's leadership is.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:00 PM
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24. Such as? n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:39 AM
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30. Holder has a record of taking an extremist, hard line position..
against marijuana, for example. He fought to make selling the drug a felony conviction with a mandatory minimum 5 year conviction. He spent decades going after users, naively proclaiming it a "gateway drug".

Or how about Geithner's record as head of the NY Fed, where he's actively involved in denying FOIA requests under the dubious claim that the Fed is a private institution and therefore not subject to the FOIA? Or the fact that he was in on the decision to let Lehman fail and he's been the co-author (with Bernanke) of the alphabet soup of credit extensions all aimed at treating the financial sector's problem of one of liquidity rather than solvency (big mistake). His fingerprints are all over the Bear Stearns takeover. He was also he instrumental in the LTCM bailout of ten years ago. He's served Wall Street well so far and is likely to use the revolving door as a means to grab his own share of the wealth when he leaves Treasury, since he hasn't made real money just yet. He worked for Henry Kissinger's think tank and is a protege of Rubin.

I know there's a push to pretend these appointments have been somehow re-virginized now that they'll be working for Obama. Experience tells us that's never the case. Cabinet members don't leave their baggage at the door, it comes right in the White House with them.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:07 PM
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6. Dissent is fine......
Being whiney for the sake of being whiney will be trounced on. Now shape up.:beer:
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:10 PM
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10. What is whiney to one person

Is legitimate expression to another.

It's disappointing when you're told you're getting put on ignore because you question his picks.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:13 PM
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12. Yeah, or I'm gonna call a waaaaaambulance
Why do dissenters feel like their opinion carries more weight than those who are perfectly happy with the choices?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:09 PM
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8. not at all. the OP was simply expressing his/her opinion
that in no way prevents you from expressing yours are being as melodramatic as your wittle heart desire.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:03 PM
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25. Be careful
It's like the Night of the Long Knives around here.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:05 PM
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5. Yeah, well.....
Where's MY pony, Huh? I want my pony, and I want it NOW.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH,WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.




Geez, let's get behind this guy - we put him in office. The very least we can do is give him some breathing room.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:10 PM
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9. Please.....
After a two year campaign for "Real and fundamental change in Washington," that stirred excitement like nothing in my lifetime, what we are witnessing is perplexing. The "Give Obama credit for doing what he thinks is best," people fail to understand that policy is more important than the long campaign. Policy is being made NOW with his appointments. Some of us, and I am a big Obama supporter, am feeling like "real and fundamental change" is looking more like "business as usual." Is it not okay to feel disappointed at these choices that hardly represent the soaring rhetoric of change we've heard the last two years?

Best article since the election: In Praise Of A Rocky Transition:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081201/klein

She nails it in that article. Nobody should be chastised for wanting to see politicians being held to their word. These appointments are crushingly disappointing.
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leeann1317 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:19 PM
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13. Yeah! Terrorist fist jab to you!!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:33 PM
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16. Hi Boo!
:hi:
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:40 PM
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19. Hiya Pet
How the heck are ya? :toast:

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:42 PM
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21. Doing good!
Feeling great about the direction our country might be going, and loving this Hillary appointment! How bout you?
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:58 PM
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23. About the same.....
I think Obama's making some good choices so far......I don't agree with them all.....but overall I'm happy with them.

I hate to lose Hillary as a Senator but she'll make a great Sec State.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:08 PM
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26. Yeah, I also have some ambivalence about her leaving the Senate.
But in terms of really effecting positive change in the world, this may be her golden opportunity. She will work her heart out for the country and President Obama. Of this I am 100% sure.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:42 PM
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20. Totally
And he is doing a damned good job.

Now - who to take Hillary's senate seat?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:44 PM
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22. wow, I'm sorry. damn that impulse to democracy. n/t
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:12 PM
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27. Nope. No can do.
I have a one year hard limit on this. He gets a year to prove himself, and if he hasn't made Kucinich Overlord of all Humanity by then, I am picketing the WH.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:22 PM
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28. um
not everyone who voted for Obama thought he was the best person to run the country
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obiwan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:32 PM
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29. Agreed. It's called "concensus" Not "what I want".
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