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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:34 PM
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How's your 'civic literacy?' Take the test
USA Today:

Earlier this week we reported about the bit of a kerfuffle over a Zogby survey, done for an anti-Obama website, that appeared to show that that the president-elect's supporters don't know much about current events or politics.

We pointed out a problem with the "findings:" That they didn't take notice of the fact that Americans overall -- conservatives, liberals, moderates, etc. -- tend to score very poorly on tests about current events, politics and government.

Today, there's more evidence to support our case. As USA TODAY's Michelle Healy wrote this morning, a new report signals that "from high-school dropouts to college graduates to elected officials, Americans are 'alarmingly uninformed' about the USA's history, founding principals and economy -- knowledge needed to participate wisely in civic life."

The finding comes from the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, which has posted its 33-question civics quiz here. Nearly three-quarters of the 2,508 people that the institute tested earned an "F."

Take the test yourself: http://americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx

My score? I answered 30 out of 33 correctly — 90.91 %

I missed #7, #13, and #31
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:42 PM
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1. 100%, baby!!!
Oh yeah!!!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:43 PM
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2. awesome!
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:44 PM
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3. missed two
29 and 33.

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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:59 PM
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72. I missed the same two
But I call Bullshit on those two questions. B & E are essentially the same answer to question 29. And the answer to #33 is BS. Just because TOTAL spending = TOTAL tax revenue does not mean they equal on a PER PERSON basis. There is not a correct answer to 33 listed.

Also, many of the other questions included premises that are very subjective. I figured out where they were coming from and could guess what answer they wanted to hear, but some were a bit presumptuous.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:42 AM
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106. I missed two as well
although I missed 14 and 33- Can't believe I got the Puritan question wrong! :blush:

Still, pretty good. I owe a lot of my civic knowledge to DU, so thanks Skinner, et. al.

As a future librarian, Civic Literacy is an issue near and dear to my heart- I'm glad it's gaining more national attention.

:-)

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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:59 AM
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110. I missed those two also
plus one other.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:15 PM
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139. 88%. Missed four.
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MarkInCA Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:44 PM
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4. 26 out of 33 correctly — 78.79 %
Economics kill me
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:46 PM
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6. I got those by the old process of elimination technique
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MarkInCA Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:51 PM
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9. I might have done better if I tried harder.
But I'll be the first to admit I could learn more, that's why I'm here.

Proud of my mediocrity.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:08 PM
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24. Also 78% ...
Missed the SPUTNIK question ... I thought there was a monkey.

And though that Jefferson mentioned separation of church and state before Lincoln did.

And 31 and 33 ... which I question.
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Lincolngirl Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:07 PM
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88. Yep, same here, same score,
Can't wrap my head around it!
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SpookyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:41 PM
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93. That's exactly what I got, and exactly why! LOL
History? check.

Government? check.

Money? Business? (don't wanna talk about it, I'm an artist dammit!...)

:blush:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:45 PM
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5. 96.97%
Missed 33. Lucky guesses on a couple, but overall surprised at the ease of the test. I was asked to take the Zogby push poll and I believe I answered the items correctly.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:49 PM
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7. 32 out of 33
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:49 PM
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8. I missed 21 and 33. Those financial questions were hard.
It's a good thing I had all that Greek philosophy in college and grad school! I only had one Econ course (one was quite enough) so that was my somewhat weak area. I think a just lucked out on a few...
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:51 PM
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10. 32/33 - missed #33.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:14 PM
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30. 93.94 % here, but #33 - do you have a problem with the way it was ASKED?
First off, both our scores reflect we're not dummies.

I answered A. How about you?

33) If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

*D*???

I now can see that A is NOT the answer, because there could be a debt carried forward... (correct would have been, "government DEFICIT is zero")

But on the "right" answer - I'm "overthinking" it.

Is it meant to say "overall / average tax per person" (as opposed what individuals actually pay, which has nothing to do with what it spent ON them?)

I can't help but think this was simply a bad / tricky question.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:12 PM
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60. I agree.... there is really no fully correct answer.
'A' ignores the distinction between debt and deficit and COULD mean 'for all time' (i..e. no carry-forward debt) and 'D' is vague - could mean 'per capita' or could mean for each person, the first being a mere statistical truism and the latter imply that everyone gets as much as they give.

'B' 'C' and 'E' are laughably wrong.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:21 AM
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126. (correct would have been, "government DEFICIT is zero")
the test must have been written when Clinton was president!:kick:
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nonpareil Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 08:25 PM
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74. Missed only #33 too...
I thought the wording on that one was a bit confusing. As Maxwell Smart would say,"Missed it by that much."
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:51 PM
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it bothers me to know that less than half the people know that there are three branches of govt
and what they are
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:26 PM
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34. Well after 8 years of only having ONE branch people tend to forget..
:)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:51 PM
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11. 100+
I got extra credit for neatness.
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hans Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:17 AM
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103. Are they right that congress recently approved wars. I disagree.
I wonder if you would agree with me that Congress has not passed a formal declaration of war as required by the Constitution since WWII. These so called war resolutions did not meet that standard and were simply non binding fig leaves, IMO. The authors of the study seem oblivious to this distinction. Hans
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 01:01 AM
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111. That isn't the question they asked.
They asked who has the power to declare war. Their answer is correct. They didn't ask anything about having recently approved wars.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:54 PM
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12. 100%. n/t
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AyanEva Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:55 PM
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13. ::shame::
66.67. 22 out of 33.

:/

It's the stuff prior to the 20th century that always messes me up the most.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:55 PM
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14. 93.94% or 31 of 33
and the ones I missed I should have read the question more carefully.

haste makes waste.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:10 PM
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27. Me too, for the very same reason.
But it's quitting time and I wanna go hooooooooome :)
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:56 PM
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15. I only missed #7. Some of these questions have nothing to do with civic literacy, and more to do...
with capitalist propaganda.
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:11 PM
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28. Umm we DO live in a capitalist free market democracy.. not a ..
socialist communist centrally planned economy like China or the USSR.
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:54 PM
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52. There is no USSR. China hardly has what you could call a "centrally planned economy". n/t
Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 06:55 PM by StrictlyRockers
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 08:09 PM
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73. I just answered those with what I thought they wanted to hear
Still only got 25 out of 33 right (75.77%), though. But I'm an immigrant, so i didn't learn this stuff in high school. At least that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:49 AM
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107. I thought the same exact thing. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:51 AM
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109. bingo
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:56 PM
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16. 32 out of 33 - missed #7
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:14 PM
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29. I missed that, too, and I think it was a trick question. This is not
This is not a test of which documents contain which phrase...let's remember there are reasons why MOST of the documents are important to our history and national government, but to remember that ONLY LINCOLN said something...in his Gettysburg address... rather than in the Declaration of Independence...is that REALLY "civics"? or memory?
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:57 PM
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17.  81.82 %
Missed 6 questions.

#4, #13, #14, #28, #29, #30

Not bad for a guy with a GED.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:57 PM
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18. 31 out of 33; missed 31 and 33. not too bad. n/t
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:58 PM
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19. Missed two
Damn near only missed one -- not too bad!

I'd dearly love to see a bunch of winger scores on that test!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:00 PM
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20. 87.88% I got the following wrong: 11, 29, 31, 33
Thanks for the link. That was fun.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:02 PM
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21. 31
Answers to Your Missed Questions:
Question #27 - A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
Question #31 - A. an increase in a nation’s productivity

31) International trade and specialization most often lead to which of the following?
A. an increase in a nation’s productivity
B. a decrease in a nation’s economic growth in the long term
C. an increase in a nation’s import tariffs
D. a decrease in a nation’s standard of living

I chose D, I think you can make the argument that D is correct.


27) Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers’ money


I chose B. oh well, 31 out of 33
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:31 PM
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35. I scored 100% and got these answers "right"
but I don't actually believe them to be as accurate as the test-makers think. They fall more into the realm of propaganda than fact.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 01:05 AM
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112. Heh. I answered exactly as you did.
I received 31 of 33 as well. :D
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:04 PM
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22. look how poorly elected officals score compared to citizens
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:06 PM
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23. is it a problem that citizen's score better than elected officials?
Just wondering.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:09 PM
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25. 78.79%. Ouch!!!! nt
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:10 PM
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26. 90% or so is MY score!
Personally, I can't understand how ANY one who cares about political issues can fail this test.

Well, there are a LOT of questions based around capitalism, not government, but you have to understand capitalism to live in a free market democracy.

If you failed the test, I suggest reading more threads, rather than starting your own...
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:15 PM
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31. Yikes!
I got an 84 point something something - I closed the window before I memorized the precise score. The economic questions got me along with the "Wall of separation ..." Who knew it was Jefferson? Obviously not I.

I wonder what Sarah Palin would score on that test? I bet Piper would do better than her.

For all of you who scored 100%: :applause:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:18 PM
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32. I knew all those years of watching PBS, C-SPAN, 60 minutes and the West Wing would pay off some day:
:rofl:

You answered 33 out of 33 correctly — 100.00 %

Average score for this quiz during November: 78.3%
Average score since November 20, 2008: 78.3%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.

If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email americancivicliteracy@isi.org.

You can consult the following table to see how citizens and elected officials scored on each question.

Where to from here?

Doug D.
Orlando, FL
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:25 PM
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33. "You answered 29 out of 33 correctly — 87.88 %"
Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 05:36 PM by CitizenPatriot

Geeze... I guess I need to brush up on some things! That was fun, though:-)

edited to add the ones I missed:

Answers to Your Missed Questions:
Question #9 -
Question #29 -
Question #31 -
Question #33

It was kinda hard not to laugh, as I wanted to add a PS : you mean, how the govt is SUPPOSED to work, not how it actually works right now, right?

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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:33 PM
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36. 100% for me, too.
It sure is nasty that three-quarters of people failed the test, however.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:38 PM
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37. FYI: Intercollegiate Studies Institute is a right-wing wacko organization.
I heard this fool - Rich Brake - on with Medved today...and would not trust shit he has to say about knowledge or anything else. That being said, the test may be fun to toy around with...
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:46 PM
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39. The econ questions did skew to the right
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spelldmilk Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:02 PM
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56. Definately.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:57 PM
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85. Many had a rightward bias.
Glad I'm not alone in thinking that.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:01 PM
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87. The folks at ISI are died-in-the-wool knuckle dragging freakazoids...
...

In a speech to the Heritage Foundation , the ISI President, T. Kenneth Cribb Jr, stated "We must...provide resources and guidance to an elite which can take up anew the task of enculturation. Through its journals, lectures, seminars, books and fellowships, this is what ISI has done successfully for 36 years. The coming of age of such elites has provided the current leadership of the conservative revival. But we should add a major new component to our strategy: the conservative movement is now mature enough to sustain a counteroffensive on that last Leftist redoubt, the college campus...We are now strong enough to establish a contemporary presence for conservatism on campus, and contest the Left on its own turf. We plan to do this by greatly expanding the ISI field effort, its network of campus-based programming." <3>

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Intercollegiate_Studies_Institute
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:45 PM
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38. 100%
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:54 PM
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40. 100%
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:23 PM
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41. As a non US citizen
I think I can live with "23 out of 33 correctly — 69.70 %"

And one was missed due to pure misclicking.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:25 PM
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42. I got a 84.85%
I missed Questions #7, #13, #14, #15,#27

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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 08:29 PM
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75. That was my score also.
But the guestions missed were different. I missed #4 (read it too fast), #8 (no excuse), #12 (daughter talked me out of right answer), #27 and 31 (no head for this stuff or head cold doesn't allow me to think ;) )
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:50 AM
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108. My score as well. n/t
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:26 PM
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43. You answered 26 out of 33 correctly — 78.79 % Ouch.
Some of those were tricky. I am impressed by those who claim they got 100%. Congrats!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:29 PM
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44. 30 of 33 for me, too -- 90.91%
13, 30 and 31 incorrect. The economic stuff always throws me for a loop -- especially as confusing as things are nowadays.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:29 PM
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45. 90.91%- missed 8, 11, 33-
not too bad for my HS diploma education.


Still don't think 33 makes sense.

Some people pay no taxes, and recieve benefits. Others pay many taxes and do not 'use' governmental services much at all???
Maybe I just don't get the question being asked and answered.

:shrug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:30 PM
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46. 84.85%
Wow, some toughies in that test!
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:51 AM
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122. The same score I got
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:34 PM
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47. There is major ongoing debate about many of the economic questions
For example, globalization has been found in several studies to exacerbate the rich-poor gap both within and between nations. The appropriate tax/spending policy in a recession is hotly debated even at this moment. It seems the "correct" answers to these questions, according to the test, have a suspicious editorial slant.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:20 AM
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117. Yes, those are bad questions. It's no surprise a lot of people got them wrong.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:36 PM
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48. 32 of 33 but I feel stupid.
Got #14 wrong. Correct answer - Puritans stressed the sinfulness of all humanity.
I assumed that was just a caricature. DOH!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:38 PM
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49. I got a 31/33, but some of the questions clearly seem to have a more conservative point of view
For example, most of the questions are based on general things that everyone should know, then a question about the New Deal being found unconstitutional.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:57 PM
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54. that's in most, if not all, text books
that was a pretty big mistake on FDR's part by trying to increase the number of Justices
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:43 PM
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50. 31 out of 33
Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 06:44 PM by Donald Ian Rankin
I thought that the federal government could level income taxes, and that the President declared wars.

Given that I'm not even an American, I'm quite pleased with that score.

A lot of the questions seem slightly leading, though - my guess is that this was set be a right-winger.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:20 PM
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62. very good
Really understandable errors there. These days the president does declare wars for all practical purposes and the government has assumed broad powers of taxation beyond what the founders envisioned.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:02 AM
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102. Which is why
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 12:03 AM by verges
we haven't actually been in a "war" since WWII. It just seems like it.

30 of 33, 90.91%
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:48 PM
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51. 87.88 - I missed 12, 14, 29 and 30 (nt)
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:57 PM
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53. Missed #33
Got the rest of them right. I think folks here probably tend to score above average.
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spelldmilk Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:01 PM
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55. Ohhh, so close: 90.91%. Missed three:
#7, #8 and #31. That was fun, thanks!
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spelldmilk Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:06 PM
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57. Okay, does anyone else find it extremely disturbing
that "elected officials" on average outscored the "citizens" ONLY in the LAST FOUR questions? (Which all dealt with finance.)
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:10 PM
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58. 32 out of 33
Missed #7 on the Gettysburg Address, guess I wasn't paying attention.
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:12 PM
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61. A lot of us missed that one only.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:23 PM
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63. And that should be
an easier one.
Some of the economic ones were toughies. I did better than I expected.
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:53 PM
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70. The common answer is the Constitution...........
I've taught government for almost 4 decades and you would be surprised that students, teachers, parents believe that this phrase comes from the Constitution. I used to challenge the kids to find it in the Constitution!
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:11 PM
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59. 31 of 33---guess sarah palin's right--we're not REAL Americans
we need to dumb ourselves down quick, this egghead shit is elitist--you betcha
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:34 PM
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64. 72.73% and I didn't even have to cheat to accomplish such an amazing feat. lol
Didn't have to google or lie like some of the geniuses above me either. :evilgrin:

24 out of 33 right.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:37 PM
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65. I missed this one: how is "B" correct, and not "E?" huh?
29) A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a public good because:
A. citizens value it as much as bread and medicine
B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
C. government construction contracts increase employment
D. insurance companies cannot afford to replace all houses after a flood
E. government pays for its construction, not citizens

plus, as has been said, the econ questions are ineptly worded, and highly wingnutty
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:50 PM
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69. Just my take on this question.............
B. I think the key word here is "directly"
E. If government pays for it, then citizens, through taxes, HAVE paid for it.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:16 AM
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135. That's where I came down but it took some thought. It was the word "directly"
that finally persuaded me and of course you are right about E. Sometimes you just have to plod through the answers one by one.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 08:58 PM
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78. Citizens *are* paying for the construction. It's not the government's money.
(Remember that this question was written by the same people that wrote the economic questions).

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:58 AM
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132. Key Word: "Directly"
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 05:50 AM
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127. It was a toss-up between A and E for me, except
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 05:50 AM by 14thColony
I decided 'government pays for it' was too broad in E. Governments pay for a lot of things that are not defined as public goods. Government aid contructing the same levee in another country would not be a public good back in the home country.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:38 PM
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66. I got 27 out of 33
For a score of 81.82%

But the economics questions definitely skewed to the right. :thumbsdown:

Regards
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:44 PM
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67. Woo-Hoo! Only one wrong!
You answered 32 out of 33 correctly — 96.97 %

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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:46 PM
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68. 100%
I would hope so, since I am a government teacher! LOL!
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:57 PM
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71. For the Capitalism Is Teh Awesome questions I had to fake it.
Still managed to only miss three.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 08:30 PM
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76. 30/33. I call the economics out as push poll propaganda
Think as we do or be wrong type garbage.

missed

Question #27 - A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends-I thought all answers nearly equally bogus.
Question #29 - B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it-like taxes for levees and defense isn't paying.
Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person-supposedly

and I lied outright to get the "correct" answers on 25 and 30.

Whatever, I sez.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 08:50 PM
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77. I got a 100. But I guessed on #13
I don't know much about philosophers. But from the rest of the questions, I didn't think they'd be asking about those who thought morality was relative. The economic questions seemed to have a distinct "free markety" feel.

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lady raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:10 PM
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79. I scored 100%, but a I had to really pore over a couple of the questions
And one of them I flat- out guessed because I didn't remember anything about it.
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fed_up_mother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:29 PM
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80. 31/33 correct!
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:31 PM
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81. 90.91% I missed 27-29-30
And I thought those were a little "fuzzy" anyway. Certainly not clear cut like where did the phrase "wall of separation" come from...
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:40 PM
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82. 90.91 here too. nt
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:53 PM
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83. 28 out of 33 - 84.85 (4, 8, 11, 15, 31 wrong)
Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 09:56 PM by elkston
I missed 4, 8, 11, 15, 31

Shame on me!!!

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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:55 PM
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84. 30/33, 90.91% /nt
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:58 PM
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86. You answered 29 out of 33 correctly — 87.88 %
I missed

Question #13 - E. certain permanent moral and political truths are accessible to human reason
Question #14 - B. stressed the sinfulness of all humanity
Question #31 - A. an increase in a nation’s productivity
Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person


I guess I do not agree with Socrates, Aristotle and Plato.. because I think all all moral and political truth is relative to one’s time and place. Thats why we call our founding fathers patriots, instead of criminals.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:12 PM
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89. I missed..
Question #6 - D. establishing an official religion for the United States
Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address
Question #29 - B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:14 PM
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90. You answered 32 out of 33 correctly — 96.97 %
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:14 PM
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91. Damn...28/33 (84.85%)
Edited on Thu Nov-20-08 10:16 PM by Kaylee
I got ones I should've known wrong. Oh well, still beats the 49% average.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:34 PM
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92. I missed number 27 -
I couldn't remember what the Free-Marketeer answer to that one is. The economic questions definately have a Free-Marketeer bias, but I should have remembered what their arguement is on that one.
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:59 PM
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94. Eek - I'm the dummy of the group
I only got 25 right for 75.76%. I was clueless on the financial questions.
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 03:12 AM
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125. feh, me too
I don't think it means we're dummies I think it means that people who score highly are more likely to post their score. But wtf do I know, I'm probably not as smart as a 6th grader
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Teacher in SC Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:07 PM
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95. 31 out of 33 here --- 93.94% n/t
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:09 PM
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96. 96.97%.
Socrates, Aristotle and Aquinas? Bah! What do they know anyway.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:25 AM
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137. I finished my B.A. and took an M.A. at a Catholic institution and had so much of those
three and Plato that it helped out here! I knew zip about Aquinas before I went there and was forced to read the three Greek philosophers in a variety of courses. It turns out that Aristotle had something to say on just about everything. So you hear about him in science, the arts, taxonomy, economics (value), and government. Plato wrote down what Socrates said in "The Republic". It's a vast terrain and I only got a whiff of each one, but it was enough to get me through that question!

A good place to revisit Greek philosophy is Thomas Cahill's wonderful "Sailing the Wine Dark Sea: Why the Greeks Matter." He has a whole section on the ancient Greek's sex lives, too...
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:13 PM
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97. Missed #10 and #27
Civics Quiz

You answered 31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %

Average score for this quiz during November: 77.1%
Average score since November 20, 2008: 77.1%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.



And I only missed #10 because I filled in the wrong blank, dammit.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:24 PM
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98. I answered 30 out of 33 correctly — 90.91 %
Not bad for someone who graduated out of high school in the bottom 1%.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:25 PM
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99. Same score as you - but different mistakes
#27, #30, #33
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:39 PM
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100. 93.94%
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:48 PM
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101. 90.91%, too!
I was hoping for 100% :dunce:
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jonestonesusa Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:19 AM
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104. I tied the OPer...30 out of 33
Oh well...I guess we're beating the average here at DU!
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:39 AM
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105. 93.94%
Missed #7 and #33

I'm going to call it a 96% because #33 is worded stupidly. Had it said "per capita" I would have gotten it
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 01:15 AM
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113. I also missed #7
I was lucky on the rest.

You answered 32 out of 33 correctly — 96.97 %

(I was guessing for all the tough ones)
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 01:33 AM
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114. 90.91 - 27, 29, and 33.
Wow.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 01:35 AM
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115. Missed three also.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 01:57 AM
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116. I missed #7, #13, #33 but #33 was worded confusingly
I put A for #33 because I'm so used to thinking about deficits and not about total debt for econ class.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 03:04 AM
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124. I missed 33 too, and agree the wording was odd n/t
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:28 AM
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118. 30 of 33
30 out of 33 right and on the ones I missed I had it narrowed down to 2 answers and picked the wrong one. Not too bad considering is 2:20 in the morning.
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:31 AM
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119. missed 7 and 27. I don't care who said it, more what was said. n/t
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Jennifer C Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:38 AM
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120. 78.79 % non-US citizen
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:43 AM
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121. I missed one
You answered 32 out of 33 correctly — 96.97 %

Average score for this quiz during November: 77.1%
Average score since November 20, 2008: 77.1%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.



Answers to Your Missed Questions:


Question #33
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 03:02 AM
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123. You answered 31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %
Question #31 - A. an increase in a nation’s productivity
Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:46 AM
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128. You answered 30 out of 33 correctly — 90.91 %
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:48 AM
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129. You Should Post It At Freak Republic
They would lower the nat'l average all by themselves...
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:23 AM
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130. 84.85%
Not bad.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:40 AM
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131. 27 out of 33 correctly — 81.82 %
I missed two that I actually knew..but just had a brain fart...
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AtomTan Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:13 AM
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133. Further proof that those who can, do
And those who can't, run for office.
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:14 AM
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134. You answered 32 out of 33 correctly — 96.97 %
I missed the last question......x(
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:25 AM
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136. 90.91%. I missed 30, 31 and 33
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AtomTan Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:29 AM
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138. The purpose of this quiz is b.s.
"to learn to what extent higher education is teaching America's history and institutions to undergraduate students."

I scored 93.94 and learned practically none of it IN high school or college courses. Everything I know I picked up from extracurricular reading, NPR-listening, and DU lurking.
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