Does anyone here at DU still embrace the term "liberal"?

[Beausoir]

I'm a PROUD LIBERAL.

I never see the new crop of DUers use the term Liberal.

Why is that?

[movonne]

1. I do...

[Vattel]

oops, wrong place

[roguevalley]

126. I am, I do. All my life.

[VAliberal]

2. I do

[FrenchieCat]

3. I'm a progressive, a liberal....and even at times, a radical.

But what is a label worth anyways?
Is there a prize at some point awarded?

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. I use those terms, and also leftist and socialist or social democrat

[Mojambo]

4. I prefer socialist. It's even more scary! n/t

[rebel with a cause]

45. My daughter is afraid I am going to be lynched

every time I tell someone here that I am a socialist. I love to see the shock/terror/disgust on their faces. ;)

[Dragonfli]

5. I am Liberal - an endangered species brother

You won't see any Liberals get rewarded quite so lavishly as Lieberman, that tells you the current identity of the party. It saddens me, but perhaps someday a liberal Democrat will be rewarded for the work they do, perhaps someday it will be considered as valuable as what Lieberman has done/does.

[grannylib]

6. Unrepentent liberal, and damn proud of it.

I even have a button that says that! And yeah, I wear it.
I love being a liberal!

[HughMoran]

7. I am

...and have said so in the past.

[Engineer4Obama]

8. I'm a self described liberal

Actually I never really heard the term "progressive" till I started lurking here.

Also Post count says I'm new so there! :P

[NikolaC]

69. Welcome to DU

:)

[Sarah Ibarruri]

9. I call myself lib. I don't like the term, Progressive. How did the term progressive get started?

I'm going to look it up.

[Cleita]

15. All the "progressives" seem to me to be a bunch of Republican Lite DLCers.

IMHO

:beer:

[Skwmom]

23. I thought they started to use progressive b/c the term liberal had been so trashed.

[Lorien]

97. Yep. To be liberal is to be a Progressive, and one can't truly be Progressive

without being a liberal.

[Cleita]

118. Thanks Lorien.

Many people who call themselves progressives do not walk the walk, that of social justice, environmental awareness, taking care of the least of us including other species, of wishing to end poverty and to get health care delivered to everyone. They consider such ideas communism.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

28. I agree, and these days I don't want to even smell any DLCers around me LOL! nt

[Zhade]

52. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

So let me get this straight - those of us who self-identify as progressives and despise the corporate conservatives known as DLCers are actually DLCers?

:rofl:

[Cleita]

58. HOHOHOHOHOHO!

If you want to identify yourself as a progressive by all means do so, but since the Republican Lite types are doing so as well, it sort of confuses the koolaid type Republicans. However, if you call yourself a liberal, there is no doubt in the minds of the Fox News listening to koolaid Republican types as to whom you are identifying yourself with. Be prepared to be called a lot of sneering names while holy water is thrown on you, but there is no doubt where the left is with the liberal label. Yes, I have proudly worn my latte, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging, vegetarian leaning, hippie liberalism for forty years now and no one will ever confuse me with a progressive.

[QC]

82. Here is something you would do well to read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States

[progressoid]

92. Thank you

I was about to go looking for that! :thumbsup:

[QC]

123. You're welcome. The level of political ignorance here is sometimes pretty high.

But even here I never imagined that I would see someone loudly and confidently declaring that Progressivism was invented by Reagan ten years ago, or whatever, but never say never!

[Gidney N Cloyd]

102. I can't believe so few people here know this.

Thanks for the link. Maybe some will take two minutes to educate themselves.

[Cleita]

116. I can't see how many people believe this when the media uses the word

differently every day from that rather idealistic article for everything that isn't conservative and they have been painting with that very broad brush since the early nineties. However, liberals have still maintained the aura no matter how maligned of being the political faction who actually do care about the environment, social programs, ending poverty and homelessness and getting quality health care to everyone. Many, many who call themselves progressives do not have that agenda, still believe that people are responsible for their own homelessness and other social ills, and that socialism is a commie idea. Now do you get the difference?

[Cleita]

113. This changes nothing.

Just go through all the news media and you will see the word used for anyone from the Clintons to Bernie Sanders. It's a misnomer and meaningless today. Liberals on the other hand still have the stigma of being stinky hippies and I love it because there is no mistaking the Clintons with those of us who are liberals and to the far left.

[progressoid]

94. You mean like Russ Feingold, Paul Wellstone, Amy Goodwin, Noam Chomsky, etc?

Modern American progressivism includes political figures such as Bernie Sanders, Russ Feingold, Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Rush D. Holt, Jr., Cynthia McKinney, John Edwards, Sherrod Brown, Kathleen Sebelius, David McReynolds, Ralph Nader, Howard Dean, Peter Camejo, and the late Paul Wellstone. Also in this category are many leaders in the women's movement, cosmopolitanism, labor movement, American civil rights movement, environmental movement, immigrant rights movement, and gay and lesbian rights movement. Other well-known progressives include Noam Chomsky, Cornel West, Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, George Lakoff, Michael Lerner, and Urvashi Vaid.

Significant publications include The Progressive magazine, The Nation, The New Republic, The American Prospect, Mother Jones, In These Times, Counterpunch, and AlterNet.org. Broadcasting outlets include Air America Radio, the Pacifica Radio network, Democracy Now!, and certain community radio stations. Notable media voices include Alexander Cockburn, Barbara Ehrenreich, Al Franken, Juan Gonzalez, Amy Goodman, Thom Hartmann, Jim Hightower, the late Molly Ivins, Rachel Maddow, Stephanie Miller, Mike Malloy, Greg Palast, Randi Rhodes, Betsy Rosenberg, Ed Schultz and David Sirota.

etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States

[Cleita]

112. Excuse me but they used to be liberals. Bernie Sanders is still proud to be a

liberal. The progressive label was invented about ten years ago when it came into common usage. DLCers are called progressives as well. Thanks, but no thanks to a label invented by the "librul" media. I'm so old I can remember how things metamorphed into things that they are not and how the discourse was changed as well as the meaning of words.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

77. Absolutely! Which is the point that I attempted to make in my thread.

They have bought into the right wing's demonization of liberal and all that it stands for.

[Cleita]

120. That's right.

It's time to dust off those tie dies and put on those Birkenstocks and start taking the word back. The real America is liberal. Most Americans are not selfish, greedy, racist assholes.

[Imalittleteapot]

17. During the Reagan era, I think.

Republican's have been demonizing liberals for many years. They made "liberal" a dirty word and I think people were ashamed or afraid to say that they were liberal, so they started calling themselves progressives. I don't know who coined the term.

[QC]

21. You are off by eighty years or so. n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

26. Figures. I thikn Reagan was an even more monstrous president than the Chimp-in-Chief nt

[Imalittleteapot]

10. Yep. I claim the title every chance I get.

I live in a sea of conservatives in the only major city of the big Texas 3 to choose McCain over Obama.

[FtWayneBlue]

11. I often tell people I'm a flaming liberal,

or sometimes I say I'm a flaming heterosexual, just for kicks and giggles. I consider myself a progressive democrat, or a member of the democratic wing of the Democratic Party - kinda out there in Green territory.

[Dragonfli]

19. It's funny but I have used every one of those! also..

Practicing Pagan Progressive. Fundies really love that one!

[14thColony]

89. I call myself a 'flaming liberal' too

and then whip out my ACLU card, so they really can say they've met a "card-carrying member." This stuff is no end of fun in the military.

[Cleita]

12. I do. It's not a dirty word, regardless of how Sean/Rush/Billo want

to make it into one. I do have a dirty word that I believe needs to be spread wide and far and that is the word "stupid". It should be mentioned every day with the same vitriol that the word liberal has been in the past because the people who hate liberals are mostly really stupid people.

[Jennicut]

13. I am a moderate liberal. Kind of like Obama. And damn proud of it.

[Skwmom]

25. I use to label myself a moderate but now I see a lot of liberal-corporatists use that label so

I've abandoned it.

[Jennicut]

29. Well, I like it. I am moderate to liberal on many issues.

So I guess I am kind of both.

[RagAss]

16. I do....my bumper sticker says;

Warning !
Crazed Liberal
Returning from Exile

[Sebastian Doyle]

18. Proud Liberal until the day I die

And this is still a LIBERAL country. Because everything good in this country came from LIBERALS.

Seriously, can anybody name ONE good thing that ever came from conservatism?

[TheKentuckian]

20. Oh yeah and thinking of taking up Socialist not like the poster above to be scary

though that is a cool benefit I hadn't factored in, but because it starting to sound closer to right than capitalist.

[Skwmom]

22. I've never liked labels but now I would say I'm a proud Liberal/Progressive.

I am fed up with how they've tried to turn it into a dirty word. If the liberals/progressives had been listened to, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

The Liberal-Corporatists/Neocons and Conservative-Corporatists/Neocons have led this country into a black hole yet they continue to proclaim their intellectual brilliance. Sometimes it makes you wonder if this whole thing is just an experiment that has gone drastically awry.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

24. The best form of government is liberal democracy, so I am a liberal.

[AndrewP]

27. Yep. I am a flaming liberal

[jwirr]

30. I do,

[Vattel]

31. I hate liberals,

but I hate conservatives way, way more. I call myeslf a left-leaning misanthrope.

[L0oniX]

87. Well I'm a people person .......I hate them all!

No ...I am an radical extreme liberal progressive socialist lefty and fuck you if you don't like it. There ...that about covers it all.

:evilgrin:

[tabbycat31]

32. i do

[Fovea]

33. I identify more strongly with the Social Democrats.

LIberalism is more inclined to incrementalism within the current paradigm.

[boppers]

34. I'm a "libertarian liberal".

Not so much an authoritarian liberal.

[Webster Green]

35. Liberal, radical, hippie, tree-hugging socialist trouble-maker..

'Twas ever thus!

[shireen]

36. absolutely! A Bernie Sanders liberal! nt

[Indi Guy]

37. I've been a DUer for a while, so I can't speak for the "new crop." Maybe allot of newbies are...

...Independents like myself. :shrug:

[ellie]

38. I am a tree-hugging liberal

I don't care who knows it!

[lligrd]

39. Always Been A Liberal And Always Will Be

and damn proud to be one.

[lumberjack_jeff]

40. Of course. n/t

[saracat]

41. I dio. I am a proud liberal, which is why I have a problem with these DC appointments.

[cliffordu]

42. I embrace a liberal whenever she'll let me.

Oh, wait a minute.....

[Uzybone]

43. Who is this new crop you speak of?

And if they choose to call themselves progressives what does it matter? Labels are meaningless, its the issues that matter.

I consider myself a proud liberal, but that doesn't make me any better than someone who calls him or herself a progressive, leftist or plain old democrat.

[CreekDog]

44. I'm a liberal and proud of it

I have been all along.

[silverojo]

46. I'm a radical moderate

I piss off liberals and conservatives equally. :)

[Morning Dew]

47. You can call me a liberal

but in the words of Minnesota's first Farmer-Labor governor, Floyd B. Olson:

"I am not a liberal . . . I am a radical."

[Odin2005]

53. Governor Olson is one of this Minnesotan's political idols.

Sadly his career, and life was cut short by cancer. :(

[Morning Dew]

54. Do you remember when the Taxpayer's League wanted to change the name of Olson Memorial Highway

and rename it after Reagan?


Grrrrrrrrr.

[Odin2005]

55. They WHAT!?!

:grr:

[Morning Dew]

56. They wanted to, yes they did. Back in 2004.

http://www.readexiled.com/blog/2004/08/olson-memorial-highway-forever.html

http://minnpolitics.blogspot.com/2004/08/reagan-memorial-highway.html

[Two Americas]

48. liberalism has changed

I think that it is liberalism that has changed over the last 30 years.

It once meant support for Labor over Capital. Not only does it no longer mean that, it is controversial to even claim that it once did\ or that it is even relevant whether it does or doesn't.

Modern liberalism is dominated by a relative handful who are "socially liberal" and "economically conservative." We used to call that "moderate Republicanism."

Much of modern liberalism is libertarianism with an "organic" label slapped on it. It has become gentrified and aristocratic and has moved far to the right on matters of economics. The murderous contempt for the general public, for working people, that we now see expressed by liberals is contradictory to the traditional principles and ideals of the Labor movement, the Democratic party and traditional liberalism.

"Personal responsibility" and "free markets," the politics of "personal choices" - choices that are only available to the upper 10% - the authoritarian punishment model for dealing with social problems, and anti-Labor positions are some of the ideas that were once extreme right wing ideas, but that are now promoted by self-described "liberals."

As the most domineering and vocal proponents of liberalism move farther and farther to the right, many of us have been left behind - are being attacked and driven out - and no longer wish to be associated with liberalism.

40 years ago I was accepted in the party, treated with respect and listened to. My views have not changed, but today I am called fringe, lunatic, far left, radical, unrealistic, purist, whiner, disloyal and everything else under the sun if I express even the mildest left wing point of view, a point of view that was once mainstream Democratic party thinking.

[QC]

124. Bravo!

As I have tried to explain elsewhere, but not as well as you do, the word liberal now refers to those who have no real problem with the system but would just like to put some padding over a few of its rougher edges.

Some of us want fundamental change.

[KakistocracyHater]

49. I prefer the Roman sinister actually,

but yes Liberal will do but I consider myself to the Left of the "average" (tv version?) Liberal. I'm also a proud feminist. I see much of the writings of the Bible as reactionary to the dominant Roman Culture of those times. Romans faced what we call south & so the sun-to them-rose on their left side, mono-sexual (or homo-sexual) relationships were considered manly & normal. Also 'pandemonium' which today means total chaos was a title of Venus, she's not normally associated with chaos but with what most people want. There was a lot of inversions of the meanings of words back then, somewhat like how "freedom" & "democracy" don't exactly match the dictionary definitions anymore.

[Odin2005]

50. I'm a Liberal Socialist

"Liberal" distinguishing me from the Marxists on one hand and the Anarchists on the other, in that I am both a socialist and a believer in Liberal, Representative Democracy. I am closest ideologically to various great American non-Marxist, non-Anarchist socialists such as Upton Sinclair.

[Zhade]

51. I'm a proud liberal progressive.

: )

[Undercurrent]

57. I'm a mutt

Like our President elect.

[TransitJohn]

59. I'm a liberal.

And unabashedly say so, which doesn't go over so well where I live, but oh well....I gotta be me!

[MilesColtrane]

60. Maybe you should check their credentials at the door?

[BlooInBloo]

61. I'm fine with both "liberal" and "progressive". Of course, the latter term originated from wusses...

Who were too chickenshit to use the term "liberal", but whatever - they're both all good now.

[QC]

81. Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States

[12string]

62. Liberal

I took part in a few questionnaires this past year to determine if you are a conservative or liberal.Liberal on all.My favorite and the most comprehensive of these placed me to the right of Nelson Mandela and left of Dennis Kucinich.Good company IMHO.Always remember,"Two wrongs don't make a right,but three lefts do."

[JustinL]

63. I do

[alwysdrunk]

64. so it's (left to right) liberal - progressive - moderate?

Is that the usage? or are progressive and liberal interchangeable?

Liberal has been made into a dirty word over the past 25 years. I wonder if the same thing will happen to conservative if the Palin-rally and fundie stuff keeps up.

[Lorien]

106. I think that some on the center-right are trying to alter the meaning of the

term "Progressive" so that they can inject more conservative Republican policies into the Democratic party. It won't fly. Those are moderates (traditional conservatives with one or two liberal views), pure and simple.

[The Traveler]

65. Liberal redneck

That would be me. Yessir.

[happychatter]

66. Love me, love me, love me.... I'm a "liberal" - link to Phil Ochs song and lyrics

I've always had contempt for "liberalism" and didn't reacquire a taste for the term until it became an epithet from the Fascists.

I'm beginning to feel contempt again.

Phil Ochs
Love Me, Love Me, Love Me. I'm a Liberal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP7fJR9PaXI

"I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal"

You kids are most welcome
(I know... nobody said "thank you.")

You're welcome anyway

[happychatter]

67. It's much more humorous that Republicans are now preferring the term "Conservative"

as if somehow, liberal republicans were the cause of their demise

they don't even want to be associated with their own party

their tears are salty good

[NikolaC]

68. I Do

I am PROUD of being a liberal.

[olegramps]

70. I prefer the term Communist

That really sends the Right Wingers in to state of apoplexy.

[mmonk]

71. I use it because members of both parties disparage the word.

I'm really more of a traditional Democrat and firm civil libertarian with varied views on policy.

[bunnies]

72. Once and future liberal here.

I'm not letting 'them' take that word from me.

[mdmc]

73. I am a liberal too

big government - tax and spend - liberal...

[Marrah_G]

74. I am a proud Liberal Democrat

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

75. Very proud liberal!! And despite his vote for the Patriot Act, Wellstone is still one of my

heroes!!

[wyldwolf]

76. Yes, in the FDR - LBJ tradition

[progressivejazz]

78. You bet! I'm a proud liberal

and I let everybody know it (I tend to be "in your face").

I only use the username Progressivejazz because I like that kind of music.

[stuntcat]

79. meeeee

I was raised by a musician and a social worker so I guess I was in for it. My best friend is gay and I care more about the environment than any religions.. the good/holy people have missed their chance to stick up for the Earth and acknowledge science.
And war is a retarded shame.


I'm crazy about the death penalty though and think it should be used more liberally There are almost 7 billion of us and we're killing the rest of the planet. My knowing that doesn't make me any certain thing, it just makes everyone hate me.. liberal, conservatives, breeders.. all disrespect and avoid me because I don't care about the humans enough anymore :p

[progressivemom]

80. Most definitely! However "liberalmom" was already taken :)

[meow mix]

83. the "me too" generation

like many other americans, have been trained to hate liberals

[derby378]

84. I am a progressive, and here's why...

Liberals, from my experience, tend to emphasize social programs.

Progressives, on the other hand, tend to emphasize the economy and worker's rights.

Maybe I've got it all bassackwards, but liberals and progressives still have plenty that they agree on.

[QC]

85. Good post. Nice to see that someone knows the definitions. n/t

[Lorien]

101. It is progressive to believe that gay marriage should be a right

it is liberal to believe that everyone deserves equal treatment and rights. There is no liberal anywhere who isn't behind workers rights and a healthy economy. "Progressive" is just an alternative term for liberal used by those who don't want to be "accused" of having compassion for their fellow human beings by the like of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk.

[derby378]

110. How many progressives on DU are opposed to gay marriage?

I'll admit it. I grew up in a household where homosexuality was frowned upon most strenuously (mostly for religious reasons). I snapped out of it eventually, though.

I know of several gay couples who would do better as a married couple than a few straight couples that I choose not to mention. If anyone still objects, just take a deep breath and let your God sort it out - if he or she disapproves so strongly, said deity's intentions will be made known in due course.

[QC]

125. Bullshit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States

[bvar22]

121. "Economic Justice" is the BIGGEST "Social Issue" in the USA.

That does tend to blur the distinction.

[derby378]

122. How to best acheive economic justice, however, is another story

My approach is to transform America's job market - we have lost too many manufacturing and research jobs, opting instead for the service industry. We need to start bringing those manufacturing jobs back. This will give more unemployed and underemployed Americans a chance to manufacture quality products for a decent wage so that they can afford health care for their families, a decent home, nutritious food, clothes for the kids, etc.

And that means finally bringing the corporations to bear. They need to obey our nation's laws, not write them.

[SIMPLYB1980]

86. I never gave up on being a Liberal.

I call myself that with Pride.:patriot:

[Trajan]

88. First off .... Your statement is a sweeping generalization ...

It is fallacious to claim all 'new' DUers never use the term 'Liberal' .... This is obviously a very personal 'feeling' of yours, since the reality shows LOTS of DUers calling themselves liberal ...

Second: The distinctions between calling our nominal belief set 'Liberal' or 'Progressive' are very slight, and so saying you are one type and not the other would mean your choice hangs on the smallest differences that most would consider minor and insignificant ....

I am a Liberal ...

I am a Progressive ...

I am a Liberal Progressive ...

I am a Progressive Liberal ...

These terms are wonderfully interchangeable like that ....


The wikimedia link above should open a few eyes here, and maybe prod a few to hit the books ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

[ananda]

90. Loud and proud radical liberal leftie here!

Hand raised high!

[BlueJac]

91. Always

[nyc 4 Biden]

93. I consider myself a Progressive,

Except when I talk to RW morans, then I describe myself as a liberal because I know it offends them most. I started using the term Progressive for myself after I kept hearing Cenk and The Young Turks use it.

ETA: IMHO the two terms are interchangeable.

[mrih]

95. I am a democrat

But I lean Liberal. At least in my social views. I HAVE voted for Republicans. My economic views say, put a Democrat in office to fix our budget, put a Republican in office to make me richer at someone else's expense.... probably my kids, and their kids, and etc, etc... but then, that's life....

I have voted in the last 4 Presidential elections, and have seen the trends over the years. It's a Democrats turn to run things for a while, putting the LIBERAL label on a Democrat is silly. Just as silly as putting a conservative label on Republicans.

The Liberal and Conservative lines of those parties are just aligned with their respective DEM .vs GOP.

A conceited Right winger would probably call me a "center right" leaning voter. HA!! I'd rather call it knowing when to put which party in charge and for how long.

[Lorien]

100. You must be very wealthy indeed

because otherwise putting a Republican in office makes YOU much poorer in order to further enrich a handful of others who aren't in need of any more wealth. I'm sure that it's good to be making over $460,000 each year, though even you must be taking a hit with the meltdown.

Democrats are liberal and Republicans are conservative; they're not just "labels"; it's the mindset and philosophy that ground each party.

[electron_blue]

96. Yep. Not only that, I still embrace the term "feminist".

Somehow the conserv. right have managed to make large groups of people afraid to claim allegiance to both words. It's time we take it back.

[Lorien]

98. Of course. If I weren't a Liberal I'd be a moderate (which these days is an

old fashioned conservative) or a conservative (which today means neo-con).

All of the best people in History have been Liberals:













to name just a few...

[knitter4democracy]

99. I do. I'm a bleeding heart liberal.

When I have used that term here, I've even been scoffed at a few times. Sheesh, you'd think us bleeding heart liberals would be welcome here. :eyes:

[Peacetrain]

103. I don't care for the word progressive..

Maybe it is an age thing..but call me liberal.

[southpaw]

104. I'm proud to be a LIBERAL

No apologies! None are needed.

[Lerkfish]

105. ALWAYS HAVE, ALWAYS WILL

tree-hugging pacifist liberal here.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

107. Your post is

really misleading. All the Democrats I know call themselves "liberals." Maybe it's because we know the definition?

Main Entry:
2liberal
Function:
noun
Date:
1820
: a person who is liberal: as a: one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways b: capitalized : a member or supporter of a liberal political party c: an advocate or adherent of liberalism especially in individual rights

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The term "progressive" is just a way to placate the imbeciles on the right who find the term "Liberal" to be offensive - fuck them. They are the people that brought us the economy we are all seeing today and the wars and occupations that are killing millions of people.

[glitch]

108. Liberal, Progressive, Democrat (bite me wing), Anti-Fascist.

They all apply to me, although lately I have been moving toward Social Democrat.

[wryter2000]

109. Not only that

I'm a proud bleeding-heart, Great Society liberal.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

111. New "crop" of DUers?

I prefer the word "vintage". New "vintage" of DUers.

The more I enjoy "vintage", the liberaller I get.

:rofl:

[donheld]

114. I'd carry a card if I knew where to get one

So i could be a "card carrying liberal"

[bdamomma]

115. being liberal doesn't bother me.

[Soylent Brice]

117. LIBERAL as hell, and proud!!

more of a radical than anything, but liberal will suffice.

i just want a revolution. don't mind me.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

119. In Conversation, I Generally Call Myself A Hard Core Democrat. But If Called A Liberal, I'd Just

say "damn right".

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127. Compared to the avg. American, I'm a damned proud liberal, leftie, progressive, socialist... n/t